Every reunion with my friend Dap is a kaleidoscope of creativity, and this chat is no exception. As Dap unveils his "worm tea" venture, we meander through a riot of character designs and share the quirks of his product's innovative packaging. Amidst our back-and-forth about the latest reads that keep our imaginations whirring, Dap teases us with a prototype of his worm tea bottle—complete with handcrafted labels that speak to the heart of his craft. But this episode isn't just about the warm fuzzies of friendship and creativity; we're here to offer an insider's look into the mechanics of passion projects that ignite our collective curiosities.
When tech takes center stage, that's where the magic of 3D modeling and the metaverse truly shine through. My adventures with a 3D panda come to life, thanks to an unexpected laptop upgrade that's putting my animation prowess into overdrive. Then, Ryan jumps in with tales from the digital frontier of Nifty Island, sharing the ups and downs of creating and exploring in a virtual universe where imagination meets byte-sized reality. Our update is a candid dose of the excitement and challenges that fill our days, hopefully offering you a glimpse into the boundless potential of these emerging platforms.
Concluding with a flourish, we lace our discourse with thoughtful meanderings on critical thinking in education and the delicate dance of AI implementation. We tease apart the threads of competitive business strategies and the intricate web of networking and marketing that can make or break success. But it's not all strategy and seriousness—we're here to remind you that life's hurdles often conceal hidden blessings, and our book club brings that sentiment home. As we invite you into our literary circle, know that it's more than just books we're sharing—it's life lessons, laughter, and a bit of weekly inspiration to carry with you on the journey ahead.
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Every reunion with my friend Dap is a kaleidoscope of creativity, and this chat is no exception. As Dap unveils his "worm tea" venture, we meander through a riot of character designs and share the quirks of his product's innovative packaging. Amidst our back-and-forth about the latest reads that keep our imaginations whirring, Dap teases us with a prototype of his worm tea bottle—complete with handcrafted labels that speak to the heart of his craft. But this episode isn't just about the warm fuzzies of friendship and creativity; we're here to offer an insider's look into the mechanics of passion projects that ignite our collective curiosities.
When tech takes center stage, that's where the magic of 3D modeling and the metaverse truly shine through. My adventures with a 3D panda come to life, thanks to an unexpected laptop upgrade that's putting my animation prowess into overdrive. Then, Ryan jumps in with tales from the digital frontier of Nifty Island, sharing the ups and downs of creating and exploring in a virtual universe where imagination meets byte-sized reality. Our update is a candid dose of the excitement and challenges that fill our days, hopefully offering you a glimpse into the boundless potential of these emerging platforms.
Concluding with a flourish, we lace our discourse with thoughtful meanderings on critical thinking in education and the delicate dance of AI implementation. We tease apart the threads of competitive business strategies and the intricate web of networking and marketing that can make or break success. But it's not all strategy and seriousness—we're here to remind you that life's hurdles often conceal hidden blessings, and our book club brings that sentiment home. As we invite you into our literary circle, know that it's more than just books we're sharing—it's life lessons, laughter, and a bit of weekly inspiration to carry with you on the journey ahead.
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Speaker 3:Good afternoon. Excuse me, I just about had a choking coughing episode. I'm still holding it back. I apologize. Hello my friends, how are you Dap? You're the only one here up on the speaker stage. You think we can get Dem Reese up here with us? Let's try I don't know Dem. Reese. Come on, let's try to get him up. I miss that man. How you dap. I miss you bro, I'm good.
Speaker 4:I feel like I haven't seen everybody in forever I know, I know it's been.
Speaker 3:Oh, I heard a sound, maybe that was just uh, rayquan hopping in dem reese. Uh, if we don't get you up here, know that we, we love you and miss you Always, love to hear your awesome Jamaican accent. That always brings a smile to my face and I love what you're working on with your music, bro, and I just love what you're always doing. So anytime you're around I always want to say what up, dap, how are things with you, my friend? Good, I've been busy, busy, busy here lately. Yep, doing good. You got all sorts of good stuff happening. So tell me about you. Have I saw the tea? Yeah, okay, hold on. I'm always loving going through the Mid-Journey channel because I can kind of see some of your fun projects. You hold on, I'm always loving going through the MidJourney channel because I can kind of see some of your fun projects you're working on and I appreciate that you do it in that channel. Okay, so is this little top hat guy? Is that part of the tea?
Speaker 4:All right, let me just show you. Let's see.
Speaker 3:It's hilarious. This little guy is cracking me up. It's almost looking like an NFT project as I'm looking through all these different variations of the guy. He's got the hat. It's cute.
Speaker 4:Well, I'll show you. Let's see the final label for the actual bottle. It's completely different than where I started originally. And then everybody else is the same so far. Okay, let's see.
Speaker 3:Okay and uh, dap, how are you looking on on this book? You've been, you've been still cruising along, you, ahead of the, the pack.
Speaker 4:I'm at about page 100. Where are you at? Yeah, I'm past that, but yeah, good this is great I actually haven't read since, uh, you know, like I haven't read in a while, just so I could get caught up with being ahead yeah, yeah you're, you're whooping us.
Speaker 3:That's so cool.
Speaker 4:I'm audiobooks allow you to do.
Speaker 3:You know so, yeah, exactly, you can multitask and man a commute. Uh, you sure do you have. Oh, I just got a message from you. Okay, I'm gonna check it out here. Oh, hell, yeah, this looks great, bro. So what's this? Is this for the actual bottle it wraps around?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, it's on the bottles right now the the samples.
Speaker 3:Okay. So how do you do that?
Speaker 4:You print it on a certain type of paper that just has a sticky back. Well, no, printer paper with a laser printer, and then I've been using just a glue stick just to get it on there. For right now there's just 20 samples that I'm doing for right now first batch of samples and you know, like a mock-up little prototype of the bottle. So and everything, yeah oh, that's great, I'll get some that are, you know, like vinyl or waterproof sort of thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah this is so great. I love the little worm, bro. He's got his crown on his head and yeah the branding is cool. I like that blue. That's a nice blue. Is that a favorite color of yours, or did you just go?
Speaker 4:with it. It's just what went to help make the worm pop in the crown hold on a sec.
Speaker 3:I like it. That's a really nice blue. And the worm tee font I like that. It's's a really nice blue, and the worm tea font.
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 3:It's got a touch of old-timey to it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I like it. It looks great. Good work, well, thank you. Yeah, that's the worm tea that me and my dad are making.
Speaker 3:The one photo that you sent me before.
Speaker 4:You're not going to use that label, then no, uh-uh, the old rustic one, yeah no yeah I like that one so much more that I literally peeled it off the bottle, washed the bottle and reused it, so yeah I was but uh, that that label was cool too.
Speaker 3:They, I know, I know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah. But you know, as far as like having a logo and a brand, the hard line, simple sort of stuff with what's going on now, is better, you know, for like shirts and the website and marketing materials versus the other one. The other thing was I was just thinking if I was at Lowe's or Home Depot and I was in the garden center, everything in there is damn green. Nothing special really about black and white. I was like it needs to be a color that's not normally in there.
Speaker 4:It needs to be, blue or something where, when someone sees it, they're like, oh, to be a color that's not normally in there, it needs to be blue or something. Something where, when someone sees it, they're like, oh, that's that stuff that I saw. Yeah, that blue is really going to catch on.
Speaker 5:I like that, I don't know if you've read any of it.
Speaker 4:It says why wait on miracles to grow your plants? Yep, you hit that right. It's a hidden miracle grow, oh nice.
Speaker 3:That's a good call A little jab at miracle grow.
Speaker 4:I know.
Speaker 1:Get yourself a worm.
Speaker 4:You read it on there, it's like we grow the worms ourselves. And then it says what is it? We dealt with a lot of crap to get this here to you, Because you know it's literally poop. And at the bottom it says Warren, do not drink. It's literally poop.
Speaker 3:Oh, man, yeah, this is not for human consumption. So the you've you've got to have uh at least one time. You've. You've had to have uh. Gotten the dumb and dumber reference we got worms. You know that part in the movie has anyone no?
Speaker 1:not yet no, oh, yeah, yeah somebody did.
Speaker 4:Somebody did yeah. Somebody in my yeah and the Prince Lee Gang's Discord did yeah. I remember that, yeah, I mean. And another reason I use blue too is because Miracle Grow is blue, like it literally is like the contents of it. I don't know if you've used Miracle Grow right, I've tried it I don't know if you've used Miracle-Gro right, I've tried it, yeah. Yeah, it's blue like dust, right, yep, yep, yeah. Do you know anything out in the real world that's blue, that plants eat? I don't.
Speaker 3:That's from chemicals and stuff.
Speaker 4:Oh, I know what it is.
Speaker 3:This is really dope. I love that. Oh, I know what it is. This is literally poop.
Speaker 4:I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not for human consumption. This is literally poop.
Speaker 3:Well, I've got a garden. I'm going to try to reach for levels of boast worthiness. I would love to have a kick-ass garden, so I'm going to have to order some world-famous worm tea, if you guys don't know what we're talking about. Dap has all sorts of cool projects, and of one of the many cool projects, he's got a world-famous worm tea. It's awesome, it's not world-famous.
Speaker 3:It's food. It's food, it's tea for your plants. It's really, it's really creative, and so we were just chatting about his uh, uh branding here and he's been using mid journey, uh to come up with some of the art. So, yeah, we just were chatting about that. We got uh conquest up here. Yes, and ryan, yes, how are you guys conquest what's up, bro?
Speaker 3:yo, yo, what's good brother great to have you up here, bro. I know this is a little bit of a slower weekend slot. This is, unfortunately, but fortunately I I'm kind of digging this time to do a little hangout, even if we just have a few of us kicking it and catching up on some books. Uh, you know, I I just love, uh, this little small group that we got going today and I'm really glad you're up here today. Man, thanks for being here. How's everything going? On your sunday? You told me you're working on some blender. How's that going?
Speaker 6:uh, yeah, um, so my laptop was supposed to come monday but it showed up yesterday. Um, it's coming along. It's very difficult, in a way animating, but um, it's good. Bro, I got it somewhat down pat from what I sent you last night. I got it somewhat down pat, so I'm just in here working I love it.
Speaker 3:That's exciting. Yeah, I'm excited to get some 3D files jump into that whole game and, like I was telling you, yeah, we'll have a little 3D usable file for our panda here, coming up with a full body soon. That's necessary so to plug into. There's all sorts of opportunities once you have that file, just plug it into stuff and uh, obviously, for creating within our own community, that'd be a lot of fun to start to be able to access 3d files. So conquest is pushing that for the panda fam. He's been, he's been poking at me and telling me hey, uh, we, hey, we can get you in the game. What's that game called Nifty Island?
Speaker 6:How is that?
Speaker 3:going by the way, Is that project going all right?
Speaker 6:I just left Cube Space, but they're in Nifty Island right now. They're doing giveaways on a bunch of islands they're visiting. So for the most part, bro, a, that are, um, that did get their avatars done. Um, most of them are doing really well and so it's.
Speaker 3:It's uh, that's awesome to see, I I love. Yeah. You know, you hear about these really cool ideas and projects and they just never happen. And it's like we've been waiting on a bunch of these metaverses for a while and then they just like it was all of a sudden alive and I'm like what the hell that they just did it that fast. And obviously they've probably been working on it and it's uh, I'd heard about it and they'd obviously they've got some money, but it happened fast and it's an actual thing. They're doing it right, it's working and people play it and it's not like a coming soon, right, people actually play the game.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah, and you have your own islands. I know Kid Call Beast is a part is just partnering with them, bear and Bull is about the partnering with them and there's a few other projects that um, but people are just creating their own islands and you can just go visit them and they'll fix them up and everything like however they want it. You can play games and and win nfts and rewards and stuff just by participating, like someone just won a hundred dollars in a space I was just in just for being in there. I haven't started my island yet.
Speaker 3:Okay, cool bro. So the island, that's all separate from what you're doing with Blender, then yeah, yeah, I'm working on my beast right now, bro, I'm working on animations with Mixamo. All right, I'm going to come to you for some tips and tricks once it's time for the pandas to start moving.
Speaker 6:I'm already ready. I'm already ready for you, bro hell yeah, bro.
Speaker 3:Well, great to have you here with us. I'm excited to uh. Yeah, we're just catching up. It's book time, but, man, I, I uh have to take an opportunity to catch up with you guys and miss y'all once a week. Is is really uh different from what we've ever done, and it sure is a long time going without talking to you guys. Ryan, how are you doing, my bro?
Speaker 5:hey, I'm doing good. How bad. Just uh hanging out the house here with the kids. We just uh cut off all of our lovely locks and we're short hair now. What yeah?
Speaker 3:Bro, I just did that too. It must be in the water in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's in there, man, how does it feel? It's cold, it's cold, it's cold for me, but the boys are so proud of themselves and aries has got his first haircut ever, so that's exciting. And, yeah, definitely, uh, changed into a two, two new little boys. Man, they're like, wait, who are they? They look handsome. But uh, yeah, we're just hanging out enjoying the weekend and yeah, nifty island's pretty cool. Um, definitely check that out.
Speaker 5:Um, I was into it when it first came out. Um, I can't really utilize it because of my computer it's my laptop, my macbook just melts, like literally melts, and I try to play that game. So it's like you have to have a nice computer. You even play it. That's one thing I have a hard time with these metaverse projects is like it's all catered towards like you know, metaverse stuff, but nobody thinks about the hardware that people are using, I feel like, because even with Spatial man, with Spatial like on the phone, it melts my phone Like holy cow, you know. So I'm like there's not even a metaverse out there yet that I've been able to utilize without having to have like a $4,000 computer. Or like sitting on my desk with the battery pack power on my phone with a ice pack out so my phone don't melt and overheat, and place beds like. So it's like, oh man, I tried, I just get frustrated and it's just like man, I can't wait till there's a metaverse project that we can actually utilize without having to worry about hardware. So I'm excited to see it and play it.
Speaker 5:We over at Doodlegenics we have our buddy Chai. He's been developing our village. It's pretty dope, really neat. We've been actually having weekly events and whatnot, and we actually did partner up with them as well too. So all of those avatars are in there. And I was going to tell you, lane, you already have all the 3d stuff. So whatever you've got, you can literally just get in contact with nifty and bada bing, bada, boom, you got the files, you got animation, like you're pretty much good to go, so yeah bro yeah I got them already tapped in with nifty.
Speaker 6:I got them tapped in with Nifty already. Awesome, that's exciting.
Speaker 3:I think we're right there, really Okay, so here's the lineup, because you brought it up, we do kind of have a little art lineup. The legendaries just got done. Joy is working on the red panda legendaries and then, as soon as he's done with that and he's just flying through those, he's having a really good time with these legendaries then we're going to work on the full body 3d. So it's going to be really quick, uh, and in order to do that, I need his official 2d full body, because I can't take that away from him. I know that's like just a small portion, but I got to give him that creative the official stamp of what that bottom half of the little panda body is. So he's going to get that whipped up and then our 3D artist will convert that to 3D and everything she does is Blender ready. I'm fucking stoked, bro.
Speaker 3:I wasn't sure if she was in something else. Conquest was in my ear and and I was crossing my fingers and sure enough, she's like oh, yeah, no problem. So we're ready to. Yeah, we should be ready to rock here shortly.
Speaker 5:That's amazing. It's exciting. That's so neat to see that, too, and to be able to utilize your avatars and other platforms. It's so neat be able to utilize uh, you know your avatars and other platforms. It's so neat. Um, that's actually. My next step is, honestly, to get a computer. Um, I think it's about time. It's been since 2016 is my macbook, so it's just so crazy that it's outdated and it doesn't even operate the way it's supposed to, and the upgrades and updates, they they really start to gain and you have to kind of keep up.
Speaker 3:It's pretty wild.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I wish there was like a rewards program or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah man, some kind of airdrop, the rain.
Speaker 5:Not even better. It was fitting for the environment.
Speaker 3:But, yeah, I didn't honestly get to the book, that's okay this is a good one that once you do get around, like it's gonna be hard for us to even talk about all of it. Sparky, and I talked about that last time like how do we even attack this one? But no, I'm excited just to get people's thoughts here and there and get people excited to to read anything about logical, uh, thinking it's. It's really a great thing to do. Mr g, what the hell bro? Long time, no see. How are you? I gotta say hi to mr g. Thanks for coming up, bro. Uh, what's good with you? What's new in your life? It's got to be like what? At least a year. I know Web3 time and I'm sure we've said hi here. They're on the timeline, but man, it's got to be a minute since I heard your voice. I love your voice. How are you bro?
Speaker 2:It definitely has been a minute Lane. How are you doing, sir? Great to see you, great to see you surviving in this space, not too many, and you are there, floating in this ocean, ready to be buoyant like anything else, right, making some waves.
Speaker 3:I love it how are you doing, you know, silly little dreams of children's books and animation and and really making this brand just, uh, something that's special. And we're, we're in no rush and the the climate is crazy, as as we all know. Uh well, in this web3 space, uh, but the silver lining that I find, with all this craziness going on, is it like every next chapter of Crazy and Web3 just kind of alleviates the pressure of keeping up. Because who am I even trying to keep up with in this space anymore? And I never really thought like that. But there's those weird pressures in this space of like, oh, floor price, who's winning and who's got the this, and and you, I'm going to join this team instead of yours, and it's like there's a lot of that mentality and you kind of have a hard time not figuring out ways to to think about that. So, like all this craziness, it just it kind of does uh free a founder a little bit that is trying to do things the right way and I I'll confidently say that I that's my goal to do everything the right way and honestly and truly give back it. It kind of takes the pressure off to see just the absurdity of a lot of this space. So I I only say that because you mentioned the climate and that we're still around and I, yeah, we'll be around forever and I'm just excited that people appreciate that it is a challenge.
Speaker 3:But I don't know, I guess I don't. From the very beginning we didn't start this project to win or anything. You know, we we just wanted to give back and I think that vibe and that mission rings through to the end user, to the end community person, and I think we're all just taking our time giving back and we'll always be here. That was a weird long answer, mr G. I'm so sorry. What's new with you, bro? What are you up to?
Speaker 2:What am I up to? Let's see what am I up to. Right now. I'm actually working with a few institutions in here in the state of Florida to try to get a financial literacy industry certification that would go, hopefully, nationwide. But in doing that I've come across a problem, and you're probably aware of it, that by the year 2037, the Social Security Administration or the Social Security checks are going to be no more. It's an insolvent entity and that's going to cause a major problem for our economy. So I'm looking to try to solve that problem.
Speaker 3:Bro, that's huge. That's a really big problem to tackle and I don't think there's enough people willing or able to even start thinking about the pieces and that like that's a big project. What? What are your? Where are you at with that and what are your steps and how are you? How are you feeling about the mission?
Speaker 2:I'm really excited With the advent of artificial intelligence. My son and I that just graduated high school, we created a personal financial literacy course a while back. And then, on LinkedIn, a friend of mine who runs these platforms that I was training students on for the last decade or so in high schools across the nation said hey, I got a lot of people looking to see if I can create a financial literacy course. Can you help me? I already had one. So long story short. I always know that, again, like online courses, most people will not complete them because it doesn't have the advantage. In high schools even, the percentage is a lot higher because there's a teacher and there's, you know, a reward that industry certification normally constitutes towards college credits for that student.
Speaker 2:Well, in this particular case, in forming that industry certification, we're going to be needing to talk to major institutions you know banks and whatnot as well as the government, and what I'm looking to do is and this isn't my idea, this is an idea from some other states where, whenever a baby is born, they take $500 and they put it into what they call a 529 plan. It's a tax deferment that grows for the student or the child's college. That's great, but 18 years barely gets it paid to tuition. My idea is allow the government and this financial institution to create an IRA, an individual retirement account for this baby, because if you take 7% and $500 and compound that over 65 years, it turns into almost a million dollars, and so that's the idea. Just got to see how we can execute that to create a new revenue pool for our youth stream.
Speaker 3:I love that. Damn, mr G. You're so well-spoken bro, you can tell you have been an educator your whole life. I'm sorry to shift this is our book club but I'm just catching up with people and I miss you. What do you love about education? Why have you done it? What has it been about educating that you enjoy and why do you still do it? And obviously you are an entrepreneur as well, but why do you like teaching?
Speaker 2:The people. You know, it's just a friend of mine and my mentor, you know, years ago, when I started, said you know, keep a little journal of if a student gives you a thank you card or does something nice for you, and that's your, your reward system, because you're going to have days where you do not want to teach and you just want to, you know, get all of those kids out to the woodshed and give them a little whipping and not even come back, and so it really is about that. I've had enough students come back and just thank me for the time, for whatever. So that's what it's about. It's just about the connection and helping people. I guess there's some altruism in that, but sorry, didn't mean to take away from the book club. Love books myself.
Speaker 2:Oh bro this is what it's all about.
Speaker 3:The book we're reading right now is all about critical thinking and logical thinking, and you're a great person to have on the space with us talking about these kinds of things and learning from one another, and I can tell that you're a teacher that also loves to continuously learn. Fact that you're in web three, the fact that you're utilizing ai you're, you are a constant learner, which probably makes you a great teacher and a humble teacher. What, what is it about learning that you love?
Speaker 2:I guess if I stop learning, I just feel stagnant. You know, and the words you were using, you know. That's what they wanted us, as teachers, to teach students is how to be critical thinkers, and that's what scares me. With the advent of artificial intelligence, I see young people using it as a crutch and not as a tool.
Speaker 3:So yeah, so you are okay with the idea of utilizing it as a tool and maximizing your own potential, making yourself better, but there's the downside of it becoming a crutch. I love that you bring that up. Can you dive into that just a little bit? We love AI around here and love to make the best use of it, but at the same time, I love that you bring that up love to make the best use of it, but at the same time, I love that you bring that up. It can. There's downsides to it. What? What do you think, uh, could be the downside of of this, this generation?
Speaker 2:just leaning on it and crutching with it too much. Oh oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, I just saw that in in just some of the students and and even my son, as I work with him. As graduated, you know, he decided to utilize it to start writing some things and thought that, okay, I'm done, I'm like no, no, no, let's take a look, let's dive deeper, let's personalize this for you. Now let's see how you can enhance what the AI did. And I just see a lot of students that are probably not going to do that, especially because they don't have, you know, the dad looking over their shoulder.
Speaker 3:Oh man, I love it. I love that you bring in another dad perspective here with our space too. We've got a bunch of dads in here Not all of the Panda fam are a bunch of dads, but there's a few of us and so we like to think about parenting advice and that kind of stuff too. So that's really great. I'm so happy you're here with us today and as we talk about these next 50 pages that was kind of the assignment for last week was page 50 to a hundred of this book and, to catch anyone up, this is the book that we're reading is called the art of thinking. Clearly it's by a guy named Rolf Dobelli Rolf or Rolf. He's from Sweden, I think, no Switzerland.
Speaker 3:Anyways, it goes through just a big long list of logical fallacies and by the end of this book there are 99 fallacies total, and he makes it very clear that he is not the one that came up with this. He's a researcher, he compiled it and he takes a pretty I think pretty good perspective. Take from you know, just here are the fallacies. Let me give you a few examples of what they are. And there you go. He does have some opinion. You can feel a little bit of his little jabs and crosses and hooks throughout where he you can feel, where he kind of leans and he kind of I don't know.
Speaker 3:I worry that maybe this book can make someone feel like a little bit of a slap in the face of like, hey, hey, come back down to earth. Hey, hey, hey, hey, come, learn again about statistics and probability. Hey, you over there, dreamer, let's look at a few stats. Like I don't know, it's kind of we've read a lot of self-help books and it's all about you can do it, you can do it, you can do it, you can do it. Anybody can do it, everybody can do it. And this book is a good kind of balance for especially the books that we've been reading of self-help type, to just kind of like think, okay, hold on, can everyone do it? And it's a pretty fun book for me to read through. And it's a pretty fun book for me to read through. That's the one thing in the back of my mind is okay, by the end of this book, who will I comfortably be able to refer this to? And last space I spoke about?
Speaker 3:As a father, I desperately want my kids to learn critical thinking, to learn about all these fallacies. My big question is is this the right one? Is this going to be too harsh? I personally am loving it and I'll give you one example from the book.
Speaker 3:This was from the fallacy, the calamity of conformity, fallacy, groupthink, and this is just a great example of how he kind of slaps you in the face. This isn't even that mean or anything, but he just tells you like this is the truth and there's a little bit I don't know. Dap, I'm really excited to hear your take on this book, but let me read one of the paragraphs that I really liked from this reading this 50 pages the end paragraph about groupthink. He says if you ever find yourself in a tight, unanimous group, you must speak your mind, even if your team does not like it, question tactic assumptions, even if you risk expulsion from the warm nest. And if you lead a group, appoint someone as devil's advocate, she will not be the most popular member of the team, but she might be the most important. And so, again, that's not rude, that's not mean, that's just kind of the tone that he carries throughout. This is like very matter of fact and, at the end of the day, like you could read a million different takes on groupthink and he's pretty spot on you know what I mean and the examples he uses.
Speaker 3:Like I, I'm battling in my mind with this book. Is it too harsh for me? No, it's perfectly harsh enough and it's reminding me of a lot of simple truths of life, of critical thinking, and it it's a really good reminder type book for me and it's a book that I'm reading and I'm like, oh, I want my kids to realize this, and that's the type of stuff that really ignites my brain is when I can pass it on to my kids. That's just the chapter in life where I'm at and it's on my mind heavily. So I love it for me. I'm now trying to decide if I could love it for others. So, dap, that's kind of my question for you what? What's your opinion on that whole? That what I just talked about. Do you like it for you? Do you like it for others? How? How are you feeling? I haven't even gotten your, your take on the book yet.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean I, I, I like it, but I mean it does help bring you back to reality that you know, like having sparky around sort of thing, um, which is an important like the more I read those chapters I was like that's sparky, that's our Sparky Good, the perfect devil's advocate, like it is a
Speaker 4:healthy person to have in your group and on your team and like I did think about him a lot with those chapters, yeah, I know, and so there's only so much of it that I can take in chunks, because you know like it can make you not feel too good.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm having a hard time with. Is it like is it going to be too much for my kids? At what age can they like accept these truths? Is it going to be too much for my kids? At what age can they like accept these truths? It's like is there another logical fallacy book that is a little bit more like rose-colored lenses? I don't know. There's a healthy mix, I think, of this book and the Hoorah self-help book. Positivity, right, like I don't know. I am kind of grappling with. Even if I would have read this book at a different chapter in my life, would I have been like oh fuck off, man, you're mean. Let me have my dreams. I don't know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, or would you have just stayed at the bottom? Would it have suppressed you Really at the wrong time?
Speaker 3:Good question because I've taken a lot of risks to be where I'm at and they've paid off and I I have had to, like, come to grips with, like that's not me and I am a product of a lot of different lucky circumstances and a lot of different like unlucky that turned lucky, that dominoed into disaster, that somehow made a right U-turn and came back the right way. Like I don't know if, at 21, if I would have read this book, I would have been like, oh yeah, maybe I won't drop out of college and run off to start my own video business that statistically will fail. And I don't know. Like he does bring up good points, that I look back on my crazy decisions that have led me to where I'm at, that I'm really happy with, and maybe I'd be, uh, doing something at a desk job for a company that I hated because I played it safe you you know, and which is maybe I would love that version also and I only have like right now to compare it to.
Speaker 3:But you bring up a good point. Like, in retrospect I this might've been bad advice, which is good advice now for me. It might've been the wrong advice for me at a different point in my life. Maybe I needed some like all that cheerful positivity, like it did push me and it did help me make some crazy decisions which did pay off. Like I don't know. I'm playing that whole discussion in my brain. I'm sure you are too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I've had that a lot through this too, and then you know, thinking about it as well, like after we read rich dad, poor dad, this was like the perfect thing to put up behind it. And I'm glad that we put this behind it instead of in front of it, because you know, the other book you know is about being successful. But if, if I feel like if your first opinion is you know that you're never going to amount to anything, everything statistical and stuff and everything, I think it's really going to affect your drive ultimately. And if you don't have the drive and the self-motivation, then, you're not going to be able to do the other.
Speaker 4:And I feel with the people that I know in real life and everything where they are and what's held them back is that. I mean, like, what Robert is like. He said was that a lot of people are lazy. I'm not saying that being lethargic or whatever, or overweight or whatever. I'm just saying lazy in the sense of their mindset. They don't want to do, they don't want to. I mean that. And then also being comfortable, like I am uncomfortable. Being comfortable because me not being comfortable is what allows me to continue to want to pursue. You know, it's the carrot in front of me, so it's just. You know it's one of those things. But yeah, the book, I mean it's not for the faint-hearted, for those that want to be successful, but it is nice to be in there as a reminder of I'm going to turn it around on you here why don't you look at it as those are all the damn things that are in your way that you've been able to overcome so far. If you look at that, it's a lot different, huh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that is. That's, that's nice. I like that.
Speaker 4:That felt real nice, dap, I know, and every time you read a chapter now, now think about it that way.
Speaker 3:That's really cool. I do do like that. So if you were to recommend this, well, first of all, are you sure yet in your mind whether this is a book that you would recommend to people? Are there like a select type of people that you'd safely recommend it to? Or like, if you had to recommend it, how would you present it to someone so that they could like okay, this is good, but remember, rich dad, poor dad, dot dot dot. Like. Do you have those types of thoughts like how you're going to recommend this to people, or if you want to, or how you will?
Speaker 4:this book feels more like what my dad would have told me about life. You know, like that, that's how it is, and stuff.
Speaker 3:Holy shit, is this the poor dad's book? Rich dad wrote his book. Rich dad wrote his book and then poor dad was like all right rich dad, but no, all right Rich Dad, but no, it's completely different. I'm just joking, but no, that's a good point.
Speaker 4:Keep going. Yeah, no, like it's totally. You know the things that are out there. You know wrapping the world up in barbed wire to keep you safe. You know, here it is. You know, it's got a lot of that on there. Um, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of examples in there where I'm like man, that's what my dad would have said, probably about something like that, you know, uh, yeah, you know caution to the wind.
Speaker 3:I thought about my dad too. This is a a. This is a Larry Boyle Bible.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I know, like like somewhere in there he's going to talk about. You know you need an IRA or something like that in there, probably, you know it's going to be in there. Not that anything's wrong with IRAs, but Exactly.
Speaker 3:That's like the talk that dad has with you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when we were going through rich dad, poor dad, I I said that a lot like I think I'm still a lot in team poor dad, I like a lot about poor dads and again, when we say poor dad, it has such a stereotypical like oomph to it. That means bad and it's like not after you read that book you say poor dad differently and it means something different. It can still be a rich-ass guy that lives by poor dad, like my dad. My dad did really well but in the poor dad way and a lot of it I really like and it feels good and it's safe and it's smart and it's statistics and it's probability and it's safe and it's smart and it's statistics and it's probability and it's all of what he's talking about.
Speaker 3:But it's like I love the risk, I love leverage, I love that idea and I want to get there to where I'm playing that game and really killing it. So I really feel still, after reading Rich Dad, poor Dad, it's like, yep, he didn't really sway me to be a super leveraged type. I'm still holding on to the fact that I love that my dad was poor dad mentality and he killed it with it. But this book also hasn't swayed me to not take risks either and to not look at the stats and be like, ah, because, let's be honest, that's kind of what I love to do.
Speaker 3:I started a business in trucking compliance. That's insane. It's the like most cutthroat backstabby, especially here in the little valley of boise. It's the, it's a phenomenon and you guys might eventually see a Netflix documentary about this fucking scene. It's crazy. What do I do? I jump head in head first, full dive right into it NFTs, web3, like the craziest, most scammy backstabby lying space on Earth.
Speaker 3:What do I do? I jump headfirst right into it like I'll take the challenge. I love that and so I'm. I'm definitely not a 100 critical thinker, but I love learning these and I think, knowing my tendencies of being a risk taker and at this point in time in my life where I have, like seen some of those pay off. I'm loving the critical thinking now but at the same time, as a critical thinker, I want to always remember the payoff that a risk can take and that, like those that read this book and live their lives 100 to being a critical thinker, they very rarely will take those rest, those risks, and so I I don't like adopting 100 of either mentality and I'm I'm kind of in the middle and I like being there yeah, this I've always been like, even when I, you know, going back to like high school times and stuff, I wasn't like super popular person, I wasn't you know the opposite.
Speaker 4:I was just kind of trying to always be friends with, you know, the people that the popular people didn't like and being okay with the popular people you know, try to be as neutral as possible, sort of thing. This is a blender sort of deal and it's worked to my advantage. Post all that so, because now, you know, even like in political scenarios at the local level and other stuff and everything.
Speaker 4:I don't get in with all that that way. I don't have someone that just doesn't like me from being associated, so it's, it's fine with me to be that way. So I do have another thing I want to bring up, which is pretty cool. Um and uh, well, it's, uh, it's probably from all this book time that we've been having. So, uh, just so everybody listening, uh, yeah, book time is awesome. I love it. Uh, I think I've only ever missed two or something like that. Um and uh, especially these past two books. Uh, well, this book and the and and the last book, um, I don't, I don't know what's happened, uh, but happened but maybe a little bit of a health issue with me too that I finally got sorted out and got my brain back to thinking. And, coupled with all this wonderful knowledge and talking back and forth about it, I did something last week that I think might blow some people's mind when it comes to business, which is I took my competitor out to lunch.
Speaker 4:Bro, I know oh man.
Speaker 3:That's crazy. That's like that's the one undercover stuff around here in my, in my industry. If you do that, that's like you got to stay real hush hush about that. What. What does that mean for you and how'd that go? That's crazy. I want to hear I.
Speaker 4:Well, I've got two competitors here and there was an opportunity that this presented itself, where a device got brought into our shop and it ended up over at the other shop and the customer allowed me to go get it from the other shop. So then when I went over there to do it or to go get it, I spoke with it's weird how it's set up, like the computer part is one owner and then the cell phone parts a different owner, and I just was like hey, john, here's my card, let's go have lunch man. And he was just like what? I was like yeah, I've heard good things about you. I mean, I just want to go get you know. Yeah, I don't really have anybody else to relate to, you know, as a computer, like you know, being a shop owner like we are, like I just it'd be cool to be able to talk to somebody that has the same experiences. And he was just like damn, okay, okay.
Speaker 4:And then we ended up doing it. We went and had lunch and we taught for two and a half or three hours man it was his wife was texting him going what does he want? And his other partner was like what do you want? What do you want. Why? Why didn't he take me to you know, or whatever and stuff? So I was just like you know it was a good move, and he ended up sending me a Facebook friends request after all of it too. So and I mean, I didn't really talk much about my business and I wanted to really talk about much about his business, but of course, people like to talk about themselves. So he started talking about himself and you know, let me have some information that I mean I don't know what I'm going to do with it, but it's there and I have it, but I don't, you know, see, the means to do it. Hell, I may even hire the guy one day down the road, I don't know.
Speaker 4:And it would you know, make him happy, Like he'd have, like, if that's how he wanted to do it. You know, then I have the opportunity. At least I just wanted to. You know, I got to even tell my dad and he's like, why did you do that? That's so weird to do that. And I was like I know, I wanted to be outside my comfort zone. I was like that's pretty much the most uncomfortable thing that I could probably do in business.
Speaker 3:So so what do you think? What do you think, uh, what do you think, going out of your comfort zone? What was that to you? Do you think, with this situation, like, why would you have been nervous before? What do you think it was that gave you kind of the courage to do that? And like, what benefit do you think you'll get out of doing that? And do you think you'll do something like that again?
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, I'll do something like that again. Oh yeah, I'll do it again. I'll do it with. I'll try and get the other one to go out to lunch with me now, just because I mean it was worth it to know, like to be able to benchmark where they are, cause I know how my business is, but I'm in complete control of the situation as well. I asked him to go to lunch, so we went to lunch. He has, I mean, I'm not going to.
Speaker 4:I didn't ask him anything that he would be uncomfortable of telling me it's just, that was the thing we had to talk about. Telling me it's just, that was the thing we had to talk about. But you know, and what we talked about was, you know, I was, you know, pretty generic about it and just talk, you know, talked about how it started, and so he started about, talked about how he started, and then there was this one thing about, uh, cost or something like that, and then I was like I noticed that your building was getting paved out there and he was like, yeah, and noticed that your building was getting paved out there and he was like, yeah, and everything. You know, he's like the landlord's actually doing that. So then I was like okay, rinse the building instead of you know. And then like there's all these middle notes like that and stuff where I didn't actually ask anything, I just brought up things that I mean kind of accidentally ended up leading into other things to be talked about. So it was nice to do that and you know, I wanted to have the relationship with the guy, because you never know who you may need and then you never know if he may need you know us at some point in time.
Speaker 4:Maybe there's some service he doesn't do that we do, or likewise the other way. He doesn't do that we do, or or likewise the other way. But you know, ultimately, you know you get to decide to do what with the information, what you, you know, want to do with it, you know. So I mean, I mean it's there, so it's always going to be there with me in a way. You know so and I just I just felt that you know any, any time I may need something in the future, it's going to be easier. Or if there's something I wanted to know, it's going to be easier, so long as I have a relationship, you know, with him. So yeah, I know that's weird to do. I told him I was like you know, I'm not about the competition stuff and everything, I don't because his.
Speaker 4:So the other guy, the cell phone repair guy that's in there, he actually sent this guy's wife in to our shop and she played like she was working for somebody or whatever, just to buy a part from us. And I was like, aren't you the the wife of whatever that owns whatever? And she was like, oh no, and I know it's her, I know it's her like, I know it's her so. And then she even like, pulled out the parking lot and drew, drew a different way, and this was before all this, obviously. But but it's just one of those things where they're just being weird about the competition.
Speaker 4:And I was just like, okay, well, I mean, I don't see any negativity with it, I'm completely cool with it, and whatever you did in the past doesn't really bother me or anything either. So it's just, you know, I just I don't know. It's just one of those things of like I was wanting to see if I could do it, I guess as well, because I'm really good at like deescalating situations and stuff like that. So just, uh, I don't know. And then I told you know, my two guys that work for me, and I was like, well, I had a lunch with the owner of JNS and they were like, how'd that go? Like we talked for two and a half hours. They're like, what'd you find out? I was like, uh, no, we're not going to talk about that. So, but yeah, that's, you know, just one of those things where, who knows, I don't know where it'll go, where it'll put us one day, but I consider him a friend now. That's a pretty good thing. I've already had friends and enemies.
Speaker 3:That's a real fun story. I'm proud of you, bro. That's nerve-wracking and I'm sure you probably have less nerves about stuff like that. I'm sure it has a huge payoff outside of just that specific experience. I bet it might have shattered some other walls that might have been up. That's really cool. Just thinking about the critical thinking, logical thinking versus risk-taking. That's kind of another example of you. Just you know what Fuck it. This might be risky for whatever reason, but I'm going. There's going to be a payoff. I don't know. That's the pendulum that I'm kind of on and and I I love that, that, that risk-taking stuff. Mr G, you got your hand up, go ahead.
Speaker 2:No, I love the story, I appreciate that and it really validates you know other things. You know IQ over EQ. You know, or EQ over IQ excuse me, the other way around. You know your emotional intelligence versus your. You know, or EQ over IQ excuse me, the other way around. You know your emotional intelligence versus your. You know intelligent quotient and just it's all about relationships. It really is. They always used to tell me, before I even started teaching kids want to know, or your students want to know how much you care before they know how much you know, and you know. That's just validation of it, what you're talking about, because it really is. We're all you know, human nature, we're all about building relationships and you know. I think that's where a lot of success comes into play. So I love that story.
Speaker 4:Just wanted to say thanks for that that I am in developing relationships is incredibly hard for computer repair Because most of the people in that line of work are not the type of social people to start.
Speaker 2:Is that what you do? Computer repair.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we do computer repair, software repair, and then we have MSP, RMM, IT side too.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was just me. I mean, before I actually got into teaching that's what I was doing. I was actually teaching classes in a computer school and when those computers broke we had to fix them, and that's how I kind of learned on hand. And then I went and took certifications. I didn't even realize there were tests you could take for this stuff.
Speaker 3:But yeah, so just love it. Love it so Dap with reading these fallacies. A lot of it points towards his main reason for writing the book, which was really market sentiment and people making moves in the market and their investments, and that's kind of what snowballed this whole book for him. And just thinking about you and this, I'm trying to connect this to this book and I don't think this is a stretch. Let me try this.
Speaker 3:You listening to this book, I can't help, but for myself, I I do think about business and I think about marketing and I think about competitors and I think about okay, is this a good trick? Because it's a fallacy, it's going to work, people are going to fall for it. Is that a good marketing tactic? Right, did, do you think like that went into play at all with you? Meeting up with this guy was like market tactics and you're learning about these fallacies and maybe you can learn from him or learn from the experience or even play him a little bit. I'm not saying you're a bad guy for doing that. That's good business. I think it's good for competitors to meet and to hopefully help each other. But if he's not willing to like, okay, now I know what I'm up against. I don't know, was there any kind of that?
Speaker 4:thought what you said right there.
Speaker 1:What am?
Speaker 2:I up against.
Speaker 4:This is one of the best things that I could have figured out from going, because I mean he's been around longer than I have. But you know they say you know to, if you're not growing, you're dying in business, because I mean someone else is going to be able to to take your spot potentially. So I mean it's you know, know.
Speaker 4:I mean I went to, I had the met, you know a master's in entrepreneurship. So one of those things you know to to think about is my competition, and and I don't know a better way to have done a competitive analysis than to have taken the damn guy out to lunch. That's about as good as it gets, man, I don't know. So I'm just thinking. But then at the same time, you know, I don't know if it it had so many different I had mixed emotions during it. I just tried to like in the time I knew that if I just enjoyed the company, being able to talk about similar things, is how I'll go about it. If other things do present themselves, so be it. And then that's just you know stuff that I'll retain for myself, for myself. Or you know who knows, maybe it's something that I do end up using towards my, to my advantage. Maybe it's something that, um, you know it was. You know the information comes out that you know he divulges something that allows me to size him up, that I mean there's just so many different variables and so many different things of information that you know could come out. Maybe he ends up understanding that, hey, maybe this is a place that, if something happens, maybe I, I feel like I have a relationship with him and maybe that stigma of competition isn't there and maybe I can go to him to, or maybe he can come to me to, uh, you know, say hey, I, I, uh, I'd like to be able to work with you or something and something in the in the future. Maybe I, I need him, maybe, who knows? So I mean yeah, and then, as far as uh, what you're talking about with with the book itself, it being a marketing ploy with fallacies, oh, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure, yeah, I mean, I like using the book as a benchmark is what I'm like using it so far.
Speaker 4:So, like I was saying, you know, look at it as those are all those things that you've overcome. It's a nice way of looking at it, but then there's some instances in there where I haven't actually seen that happen in certain situations. And then it's nice to have that example, because each one of those 99 ones in there is a unique example from each other. There is a unique example from each other and it's nice to read about those specific scenarios so that we can be better prepared with our journey of a quote rich dad mindset that we can use this other as a tool to prepare ourselves with that mindset.
Speaker 4:So I feel that you know a lot of people want to get where that book was talking the past book and I feel that not a whole lot of people try statistically based off of this book. So so it's nice being able to have the information that is in the book we're reading now to uh, to help. You know, it's kind of like we're able to have a uh, like we're traversing a minefield to success and this book is just a. This book is just a little guide where some of the mines are to help us walk through there.
Speaker 3:I like that. It's good to be aware of them, but it can't let you cripple your journey. It can't let you say you know what? I can make this jump and save myself three miles and possible death by alligators, and I know there's a minefield under you know, I don't know it's. I like that. I like that analogy. There are some minefields and a lot of them are in our own mind.
Speaker 4:Really, yeah, I mean, if we don't have goals, then where are we going?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean if we don't have goals, then where are we going? Yeah, I like that. Hey, real quick. Before I get to you, mr G, in general chat in the Discord, everyone that is a VIP listener can join the giveaway right there in the general chat. Go ahead and enter that giveaway and any VIP listener that wins that's here in the space. You got that $10.
Speaker 3:And anybody that is not a VIP listener just be here at 10 of our spaces, become kind of a regular around here and I airdrop you an NFT and that gets you certain roles, like this little giveaway that we're doing today. So come to our spaces. After 10 of them, you can show me that we're doing today. So come to our spaces. After 10 of them, you can show me that you've been here and by that point I'll know and I'll see you here in the spaces. So that way you can get the NFT as well as be able to enter this giveaway and others. So you've got about four minutes, so I encourage you to go into general chat. The nice thing is, if you're on your phone and you're in twitter, you can uh probably still listen. That the functionality should still be there. You can hop into uh discord and enter that giveaway and uh, with that being said, mr g, I apologize for the little commercial break there. For the giveaway, I'd love to hear what you have to say. Go ahead, my friend.
Speaker 2:Not at all, thank you, which actually reminds me that I am still holding all the NFTs of your collection. I don't know if you remember, but my wallet was hacked a while back and about a third of my NFTs I had about 600, and I was down to about 400. And that kind of just turned me off for a minute because it wasn't anything. It was, uh, literally a hack from the open c into my metamask wallet. But, with that being said, I'm very happy that I still have yours and uh, so thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 3:Then you should have gotten, uh, the panda cubs airdropped to you. Uh, make sure to check and see if you got some of those little cuties, because if you do, my friend, we have some awesome physical products I've been sending out to people and, uh, a couple of them are dap products with his laser gun machine and they're awesome. Those are. Those are in production right now. But we went through the plushies. You got to get yourself some plushies, so make sure to check if you've got some of those and cash in on those.
Speaker 3:My friend, all I required was for you to hold on to those panda cubs for six weeks and you get a plushie for every six that you have in there, and then for every 12 that you have, you get a cool wallet with your it's a phrase, wallet is what I've shortened the name down to. It's really awesome, made of bamboo and metal. So that's awesome. Mr G, yes, I appreciate you for being a holder, but, man, you got to cash in on some of the goods. My friend Got all sorts of good stuff waiting for you Well, thank you, I was out of the loop.
Speaker 2:I will jump back into the Discord that's actually still working for me again and, to my pleasant surprise, the Discord that I no longer use anymore got a bill of like $274 for the Nitro. But I'm going to call them about that. But I will jump back into your Discord. So thank you for reminding me on that. But what was I going to say? Oh yes, To one of the gentlemen that was speaking. He reminded me of a good book that I think you might enjoy, called Verbal Judo. It was written by a police officer turned educator, and it was how he used to de-escalate, you know. So there was never physical violence and he was just Verbal Judo. He was amazing, but just wanted to share that.
Speaker 3:So thank you so much and really enjoy the space that sounds right down our alley. Bro, we are always. I am talking about martial arts. Judo is awesome. That's one of my favorite martial arts. It is so brutal and the beautiful thing about martial arts is like it doesn't have to go there. But having those skills allows you to deescalate. And that's a beautiful thing about learning self-defense is like. It allows you to not be violent. It allows you to have the confidence to work through things before it ever has to get to fists, you know, and very rarely does it need to get there, and that never fixes anything. It only causes more problems. And I love the idea of that book. Do you know who wrote that? Do you have the name on hand by chance?
Speaker 2:I'll have to double check. But just like Dalton said, be nice until it's time to not be nice.
Speaker 3:I love that. I love that. Yeah, Are you referring wait? Are you referring wait? Are you referring to uh roadhouse? Oh yeah, you've seen that new one right yeah, I enjoyed that one it was. Uh, I can't lie, I was. I was so entertained. I had a great time watching that movie and, yes, connor, connor over acted and I loved every minute of it. It was so fun yeah.
Speaker 2:I thought somebody in Patrick Swayze's place. But yeah, like you said, I was amazed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you guys haven't seen that, you you have to understand it's, yeah, it's, it is what it is. And if you're just going to have a good time watching that show, and really the martial arts, the fight scenes are pretty phenomenal, it's really entertaining. Oh man, that's funny I, I wasn't expecting that line. Uh, mr g, great to have you around with us and I hope you join us for more of these. We're going to do these on Sundays from here on out, because I've been coaching so much and, by the way, you guys, my son Abel, how many points did he score today? Coach?
Speaker 5:There were 18 points and he scored 8 or 10.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he scored 8 or 10 today of our 18 points, we ended up with a tie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank you we ended up with a tie, but it was a great game. We're really proud of our little kiddos and I've got my wife coaching with me this season, which is so much better and easier for me. Thank you, Shanna. She's a really good coach and I think she's she's a really good coach and, uh, we, I think we're going to have a really good season. So, anyways, that's why these Sundays I'm coaching basketball, I'm also coaching soccer, I've got my other daughter's sports, and then we've also got karate throughout the week. So we're just kind of packed throughout the week and these Sundays this, this time, just works out so nicely. I appreciate that a bunch of you could show up during this time. We'll be running these times for the next known unknown.
Speaker 3:While I appreciate it, I apologize to Conquest and Ryan. I've kept you guys quiet. Conquest, you won 10 books. Congratsquest and Ryan, I've kept you guys quiet. Conquest, you won 10 books. Congrats, fam and Ryan. I need from both of you guys some inspiring, motivating. It doesn't have to be about critical thinking, Just something. This is a good day, I feel, these Sundays to kind of recharge and get ready for the week. So give us some magic I know you guys got something right some fire to spit and drop on us, to light something under our asses, to get going this week. What do you guys got for us? Ryan, why don't you go first?
Speaker 5:Thank you. You put me on the spot. Definitely check yourself before you wreck yourselves. Always check your check. Make sure you're making the right choices for the better good of yourself and others. Always do unto others as you wish others to do unto you.
Speaker 5:One thing I've been trying to teach my children and it's always easy to teach your children things, but it's always harder to teach yourself something that you know is right and that you know is wrong. So move forward. It's always harder to teach yourself something that you know is right and that you know is wrong, so move forward. It's a new week. Let's uh make sure we uh keep going forward and push to strive for the best. And uh much appreciated everybody with their words today, appreciate the insights. Uh, these fallacies have got me thinking of so many different things. It's just like I'm stuck on that point. I don't even think I need to read anymore. I'm like I'm gonna figure out this fallacy crap, not crap, excuse me, but more or less just identify it within myself and see where I can fix that. You know what I mean. And uh, move forward and better myself for the better good. Um, we are a reflection of ourselves to the world, so let's uh. Reflect into the light and spread love.
Speaker 3:Much appreciated you, guys and ladies, and have a great sunday evening that was awesome, ryan, and that that first line or two check yourself before you wreck yourself. Make good decisions. That's kind of what this book is about. So, yeah, that's like logical thinking check, check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Speaker 5:I like that I keep telling my little ones that I'm like you guys better check your thoughts before you get into wrecking your thoughts. Come on now. Why do you want to do that? Do you think hurting somebody's good? Does that make you feel good when you hurt somebody and they respond no, okay. Well you, you're hurting your mind by sitting there thinking it's okay because you took your toy. You can hurt them.
Speaker 3:I love that. That's awesome, bro. I punish my kids with long dad conversations also. It sounds like you do the same thing. Yeah, are you?
Speaker 5:going to continue? Are you going to drag this on anymore? Dad, I understand what you're saying. I haven't gotten to my point yet.
Speaker 3:Just listen and be quiet that's one of those things my dad did, that I was like, yeah, I am using that for sure. He would sit me down and I'm like, oh, can't you just spank me? Come on, let's get this over with no more words. Oh man, that's good stuff, conquest. How about you, my friend? Over with no more words? Oh man, that's good stuff, conquest. How about you, my friend? Uh-oh, is it just me? Can anyone hear? Conquest right now?
Speaker 5:No, I cannot hear him.
Speaker 3:No, no, we can't hear you Conquest oh man. Well.
Speaker 6:I'm sure it was.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, there you are, bro, there he is.
Speaker 6:No, it's these headphones and I really hate them. But I lost my other ones so I have to use these. But I guess the way I would say it for this week is things may not go the way you want them to go, and that's for your protection. Whatever you believe in, it could be for your protection. So if you're trying to get something done this week and things are just not going right for you, look at it as it's keeping me. Something could happen, something could have happened with that and believe that you're being redirected to what you actually want or what you're going for.
Speaker 3:I love that, bro, and, to be honest, okay, I'm like the least superstitious person. I say that, but at the end of the day, I love to think with superstition sometimes Because, let's say, I'm super late to a practice and traffic was bullshit, and it's like I really did my best, I tried my best to be there on time. I left even like 10 minutes early. Sometimes, boise, traffic is bullshit and you're late and it's like you know what. I'm going to choose not to be upset about this. Maybe two lights ahead a semi ran a red light and I might have been there and got hit. So I'm going to feel okay with how things played because maybe a semi would have hit me.
Speaker 3:It's such a it's not logical thinking. It's like completely backwards from how this book is teaching me how to think. But I sometimes I love to cling to that stuff because it's like I try to keep things chill. I try to keep things like ah, you know what, roll with the punches, and sometimes I do have to kind of think like it's all for the greater good and I'm like not the person that says it's meant to be and this is how it was meant to be, like life is chaotic and that's crazy in my mind, but sometimes I love to cling to that.
Speaker 3:That's good advice, bro. If you're late to a meeting, especially if you're trying to get there on time, just remember there's a semi that might have hit you a couple lights ahead. No, not like that, lenny. I know I'm the worst, bro. I'm always going to take your really good advice and completely butcher it. That was so bad of me to do. I apologize. No, that was good advice what you said, bro. I appreciate that. Conquest just laughs at me. You were funny, bro, it can get dark with me too. I apologize. No, that's uh. That's a really uh good piece of advice that you said. Can you, can you reword it again fresh in people's minds, so that all that nonsense that I was saying was not what stuck with them?
Speaker 6:okay, uh, I guess the better way of saying it is don't, don't be stressed. Don't stress yourself if shit don't go right for you this week, because it's probably you're probably being redirected and it's a reason that it's not going right. I guess that's the better way I could say it's a reason that it's not going that way, so don't press to try to make things happen, just go with the flow. That's the best way I can say it.
Speaker 3:I love that, bro. That's some Bruce Lee shit right there and I try, I try really hard, and there's even like ways that you can prep your life so that that like flows more naturally. Even that's what I'm shooting for, conquest. You're always a great example of that man. Your positivity and everything is really a strength. And man.
Speaker 3:Rolling with the punches, going with the flow, is not an easy skill set and it does require a plan of attack, wouldn't you say, uh, you kind of have to, like you can't just not have a plan if shit goes wrong. It's like I, I like to have some kind of plan of attack, even if it's like just stop and count to 10, like the most basics of basics. If there's some kind of plan of attack, even if it's like just stop and count to 10. Like the most basics of basics. If there's some kind of plan that you have in place like read a book, go on a one wheel ride, go shoot some hoops, like mine is, go to the gym, like I don't know, I really sometimes have to hardwire, reset my shit to be able to maintain, uh, maintain that. But um, yep, good shit, I like that a lot.
Speaker 3:I'm going to, I'm going to carry that into this week. My friend, thank you for that. And DAP, mr G. How about you guys? What do you guys have to leave us with this fine evening? Thank you guys for all your thoughts tonight.
Speaker 2:Be like water Dap. You want to go.
Speaker 4:I'm going to take your competitor out to lunch.
Speaker 3:There you go, there you go, I love it, I love it. Okay, before I close up this space, last week I gave a little challenge, a little homework. If anybody is not up this space. Last week I gave a little challenge, a little homework. If anybody is not reading this book, that's fine.
Speaker 3:All of these fallacies you can find in probably a million different books and if you type any of them into Google, you'll probably be given all sorts of different links with basically the same definition. Sorts of different links with basically the same definition, and the fallacies all follow suit, depending on who's telling it and their little version and their examples. But what you can do, instead of reading this whole book, I'm going to read through some of these fallacies that we read through in this section. Just listen, pick one of them, type it into Google and learn about one of these. Just learn about one of them. There's so many and once you start on one, one of them might reference another fallacy and you can easily, easily, probably, find a reference of these 99 fallacies that he's talking about all over. And so I'm going to just read through the different fallacies we read through this last week and I would love for any of you if you haven't been reading the book, and you can get the book and I'll reimburse you as a holder. That's Mr G, if you're not up on that. We do free books around here. So anything, especially in the book club, we do reimbursements. So get the book, we do reimbursements, get the book, get the reimbursement. And if you can't do that, then just Google and learn about some of these. It's really, really important, I think, for society to maintain, if we don't follow these, at least to know what they are. So just pick one or two and Google them and learn about them and it'll help you this week, I think, in my opinion. So here I go.
Speaker 3:Incentive, super response, tendency, regression to mean Outcome bias, paradox of choice, liking bias, endowment effect. Coincidence, paradox of choice liking bias, endowment effect, coincidence. I loved that one, oh my gosh. And conquest. Maybe that's why I went off on such a tangent, because I really liked that chapter about. Coincidence Got me thinking like an idiot. Next one Groupthink. Oh, that's another really good one. Neglect of probability, scarcity, error Base rate neglect, gambler's fallacy. And anybody in Web3, anybody that loves to go to the casino read that chapter.
Speaker 3:The anchor Induction, loss Aversion, social Loafing and Exponential Growth. And ooh, let me tell you guys what the most impactful moment I had from reading this last part. It was actually just reading over these chapter titles that I remember the social loafing chapter. It knocked something loose in my brain that I have been guilty of that. I've always wanted to quit, but I still find myself guilty of it sometimes and I always want to quit doing it because I feel like a piece of shit and I'm robbing myself. But I keep doing it.
Speaker 3:Social loafing during warmups at karate. Sometimes they can be really brutal and everyone does it. But when pawn our instructor is not looking, you might just kind of slack off for a couple reps while everyone else is doing their pushups and he's watching them. You kind of slack off and take a little bit of a break and then when he's got your eyes on you, he, you get back to it and then you notice out of the corner of your eye everyone else doing it on the other side of the room. The same thing. So no one tells on each other because we're all social loafing together, not for me. No more, my friends. No more social loafing for me. I am going to work hard, no matter what, regardless of who's watching, and that's my integrity that I won't feel good about, and I'm not going to let social loafing corrupt me anymore. So there you go, my friends. I think this is really good content, if it's not.
Speaker 3:This book. Start digging into logical fallacies and logical thinking. Into logical fallacies and logical thinking, and it's a really important thing that I think humans need in order to be more peaceful with each other, and that's a positive goal. I think so in our lives too, and for our own happiness. He mentions that with this book. You know, this is not a how to be happy, but understanding these things can help you understand happiness and unhappiness and how to possibly avoid unhappiness. It's kind of, again, not a self-help hoorah book, but, gosh, it's a really important category that I think needs to be mixed in with self-help and with anything with life. So there you have it, my friends. I appreciate you coming to our Sunday space. We will do another 50 pages for next Sunday.
Speaker 3:As you can tell, I read over a shit ton of logical fallacies and we touched on barely any. It's really hard to discuss and even attack discussing this book. So just barely uh, brushing up on any kind of logical fallacies. I feel good about, uh, with discussing this book, because it's a pretty personal thing. I I think we all 99 fallacies. We should learn them. We should learn them well, and if we were to properly do a book club for this book, I think we would need to do a space for every single fallacy. Every fallacy could produce a three-hour conversation easy, especially with this group. So it's hard to not do what we're doing, just brushing upon what it is.
Speaker 3:So I highly recommend jumping in and reading it. That's probably good for the author, us hopefully getting you excited to read up on logical fallacies. Getting you excited to read up on logical fallacies. And again, if you are one to not be a risk taker and you don't want to like you'd like to be a risk taker, this probably isn't the right book for you at this time. Read something like Rich Dad, poor Dad, and if you're maybe wanting to rein back on your risky moves, this is a great one to kind of bring you back down to earth and learn, learn some good logical choice making skills. So appreciate you guys. I have rambled long enough. Any of you guys would? Would you guys like to say anything else before I close up the space? Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:All right, I'll just say thanks for sharing and, yeah, I'll pick the book up and take a look at it. Definitely I've got a few on my plate right now that I'm looking to read. But I like sharing with you guys and, yeah, it really does. When everybody's reading the same text and then you're sharing different perspectives, not only are you understanding the book better, but you're understanding the individuals better too. So, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, mr G, we would really appreciate you coming back and we've got a pretty awesome I'm coming back and we've got a pretty awesome consistent little book club that we get together. Not everyone comes up on stage, and that's a-okay. We invite everyone and anyone to come up and talk. But yeah, we've got just a pretty consistent little group, regardless of when we're meeting, and we're missing a couple key members that are usually here and we'll we'll eventually, hopefully one day find a time that works for everyone. But uh, yeah, we would love to see more mr g around here.
Speaker 3:That was really awesome to have you here with us today. Thank you, my friend. All right, my friends. Well, I hope you have a really nice week. I've got an awesome things happening with people's vacations. I've got to help a couple people plan their vacations. So that's kind of my Sunday afternoon plan and I'm really looking forward to it, and I've got such a busy week coming up. I hope you guys kick ass, and we all do do With. That being said, I'm going to play just a little bit of music on the way out and I appreciate you all. Much love, thank you, and do you ever feel like you're alone?
Speaker 1:And do you ever wish to be alone? I can say I have. I can say I have. And do you ever feel concerned? Alright. And do you ever feel scared? Alright. And do you ever feel that time slips away and I can see it all in your house? And I can see it all in your house. So here it is. Please Watch as your heart beats on endless speed, look for the door as the sun goes down, express that you take all the wrong with sound, everything, everything's magic. Just sit back and hold on my head. I'm tired. Be careful, I've got that. I'm just lying. Reach out your hand, I'll make you mine. Everything, everything's out your hand, do you?