Reflecting on my own rollercoaster ride from the days of scraping by to where I am today, there's a certain kinship I feel with the soulful rhythms of music that echoes the narrative of hardship and victory. It's this very authenticity and resilience that's become the cornerstone of our latest conversation. We're not just talking about success; we're exploring the fabric of financial wisdom and personal growth, from the sheer exhilaration of purchasing my dream truck and the lessons it left me with, to the deeper reflection on values and setting goals. We've turned our latest insights and experiences into a rich tapestry, weaving personal anecdotes with the financial principles of 'Rich Dad, Poor Dad', and trust me, it's a discussion that's as enlightening as it is grounded.
As we grapple with the tightrope walk between generosity and pragmatism, the shift in life's focus from pastimes to financial planning doesn't escape our scrutiny. We're pulling apart the controversial strands of advice that sometimes blur the lines of sensibility, questioning the legitimacy of 'buying karma' and the emotional repercussions of changing life priorities. It's the raw, unfiltered conversations about the costs of pursuing financial endeavors over leisurely hobbies, and the significance of resilience and goal-setting that particularly hit home. Setting the scene with an anecdote about my own family's joy over the new truck, this episode is steeped in the personal transformations that shape our journey towards financial savvy.
To cap it off, imagine the robust dialogue that could spark if we had a sit-down with Robert Kiyosaki himself! The episode contemplates such a thought-provoking exchange, teasing the mind with what lessons could be learned from a direct confrontation of ideas. We also celebrate the collective wisdom found in book clubs, where critical thinking is as much a part of the discussion as the pages being turned. Whether it's dissecting get-rich-quick schemes or advocating for prudent financial partnerships, this episode is rich with insights, challenging listeners to navigate their financial futures with both acumen and self-awareness.
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Reflecting on my own rollercoaster ride from the days of scraping by to where I am today, there's a certain kinship I feel with the soulful rhythms of music that echoes the narrative of hardship and victory. It's this very authenticity and resilience that's become the cornerstone of our latest conversation. We're not just talking about success; we're exploring the fabric of financial wisdom and personal growth, from the sheer exhilaration of purchasing my dream truck and the lessons it left me with, to the deeper reflection on values and setting goals. We've turned our latest insights and experiences into a rich tapestry, weaving personal anecdotes with the financial principles of 'Rich Dad, Poor Dad', and trust me, it's a discussion that's as enlightening as it is grounded.
As we grapple with the tightrope walk between generosity and pragmatism, the shift in life's focus from pastimes to financial planning doesn't escape our scrutiny. We're pulling apart the controversial strands of advice that sometimes blur the lines of sensibility, questioning the legitimacy of 'buying karma' and the emotional repercussions of changing life priorities. It's the raw, unfiltered conversations about the costs of pursuing financial endeavors over leisurely hobbies, and the significance of resilience and goal-setting that particularly hit home. Setting the scene with an anecdote about my own family's joy over the new truck, this episode is steeped in the personal transformations that shape our journey towards financial savvy.
To cap it off, imagine the robust dialogue that could spark if we had a sit-down with Robert Kiyosaki himself! The episode contemplates such a thought-provoking exchange, teasing the mind with what lessons could be learned from a direct confrontation of ideas. We also celebrate the collective wisdom found in book clubs, where critical thinking is as much a part of the discussion as the pages being turned. Whether it's dissecting get-rich-quick schemes or advocating for prudent financial partnerships, this episode is rich with insights, challenging listeners to navigate their financial futures with both acumen and self-awareness.
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Speaker 2:I ain't talking to me like they be nothing but supportive. Appreciate the love that you not show up on my doorstep. If you ain't about that real, I suggest that you avoid me. If we ain't on the same page, that's the end of story. You are not a bother cause your closet's full of Jordan. You are not a rich man cuddling on the floor. First I dropped the record and you know I got it torn. Real still the slogan only difference is more, but it's loyal. My life feels like it's just beginning now.
Speaker 2:I ask you a question. I want answers, not to run around. You the one that bought it up, but I'm the one that shut it down. If you ain't got that on me and I brought you one of my matches, I'll say all I see is green light. All I see is green light. All I spit is real life. Bet you don't know what that's like. All I see is green light. All I see is green light. All I spit is real life. Bet you don't know what that's like. I don't need directions from nobody in the backseat. I don't need these people in my corner trying to gas me. I'd rather have people in my corner trying to check me.
Speaker 2:I walk up the bus a different city than the last week. Let the fans be. They gon' tell you about the past me. If I'm being honest. Last year I seen a bad place. Wouldn't say I'm out of it, but don't feel like I can't be it.
Speaker 2:I don't know poppin clean records, but they nasty. I was made for this, I can tell. When mama had me I offed it off the table for my doctor. I ain't never de-ask me what does that mean? I told him get the pen and pad please. What is known I write something that can change lives. I don't think you'll fully understand the way you change mine. I look at the future that's in front of me with gold Ice-cream records, three years. I don't like your waste. I'm havin' it. All I see is green light. All I see is green light. All I see is real life. Bet you don't know what that's like. All I see is green light. All I see is green light. All I see is real life. I bet you don't know what that's like. All I see is green light. Yeah, oh my, oh my, oh my.
Speaker 3:Do we have another intro song from the Sparky, dj Sparky, tonight?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't know if you wanted one or not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've been playing yours. Let's rock it.
Speaker 5:All right, start it. Yeah, yeah, stop my uncle calling me like where you at. I get you the keys till you bring it right back, nigga.
Speaker 5:I just think it's funny how it goes. Now I'm on a roll half a million for a show and we started from the bottom. Now we here Started from the bottom. Now my whole team fucking here Started from the bottom. Now we here Started from the bottom. Now the whole team here, nigga, started from the bottom. Now we here Started from the bottom. Now the whole team fucking here Started from the bottom. Now we here Started from the bottom. Now the whole team here. Nigga voice tell stories about your man Say I never struggled, wasn't hungry. Yeah, I doubt it, nigga. I can tell your boy to admit there ain't really much.
Speaker 3:I hear just popping off without a snigger.
Speaker 5:We just want the credit where it's still. I'ma worry about me, give a fuck about you, nigga. Just as a reminder to myself, I wear every single chain even when I'm in the house, cause we started from the bottom now. We here Started from the bottom. Now my whole team fucking here. Started from the bottom now. We here Started from the bottom now the whole team here, nigga. No new niggas, nigga. We don't feel that. Fuck a fake friend. We're your real friends that we don't like to do too much. Explaining Story state is same. I never changed it. No new niggas, nigga. We don't feel that. Fuck a fake friend. We're your real friends that we don't like to do too much. Explaining Story state is same. Threw the money in the fain. Started from the bottom. Now the whole team here.
Speaker 4:I didn't realize how many end bombs that song had. That song ties in with the Getting Started chapter that we just read, although I think the song is a bit of a joke because Dre did not start from the bottom. He lived in Toronto and went to a private school, pretty much. So, yeah, it's a bit of a ridiculous song for him to sing, but it's still. We're starting and we're making our way through life and we're all here now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hey, I love it. I love it. As silly as the whole idea is. You can't help but just think about the underdog moments and get a little hyped up. I loved it. Thank you, sparky, that was great.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was in here waiting for my wife or my son to walk in on me, dancing like an idiot. I hope everyone's having a great night. I'm having a good night. I am exhausted physically but mentally super hyped up. We grappled for an hour tonight at Karate my grown man training partner. I have a lot of training partners in class that if no adults come, I train with a bunch of kiddos. So when I have a full grown man that I have to wrestle around, I'm exhausted. It's just the best, though. I love coming home and being able to just relax.
Speaker 3:I got my reading done way early and you guys I'm not going to lie I read till the end. I want to see if any of you, if the rest of you, did that and just kind of take a look at it, at where you guys are, and I'm I'm going to do anything, because we kind of called it. The last two chapters are a bit of a sales pitch. I'm okay with it. I saw it coming, my daughters are home, my dogs are going to park in, but what it tell me, wait. Did you guys read till the end or did you guys get through chapter rate? Where are you guys at?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I got through it. I read it.
Speaker 7:I read the chapter, but I didn't read the entire thing. You know, I read this chapter twice, maybe two and a half cups.
Speaker 6:I listened to the whole book, not knowing that I did.
Speaker 3:What do you guys? What do you guys think? Do you think we can catch a DAP up, or do we want to leave the last chapter and the final thoughts? That might be a pretty good idea, just to leave that for the next Monday.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't read the last chapter, I read just this chapter.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, perfect, perfect, no problem at all. That's, that's perfect. I couldn't help myself. I just saw that little bit left and you know I I really liked the final thoughts, I liked the chapter coming up, that that just closes it all up. He gives some bullet points and I like lists, I like like here's 10 things and he gives you 10 things and at the same time it's definitely an upsell. Come to find out. There's like rich dad, poor dad. There's a series, there's even like kids stuff and teenagers, and so he really, he really is a work horse and puts a lot of products out there. I can't help, but really really look up to his work ethic and he sure does hustle.
Speaker 3:And this chapter, let me, let me just go back in time. I hope I didn't. Sometimes I'll do that or read on and then I kind of forget. But but chapter eight, uh, getting started, I really I really thought this was a uh kind of he. He starts to dive in to some practical thoughts. It's still kind of brushing the surface, but I I really do think that this is like the perfect little book to segue into more books. So I it's like, do I want more? Rich dad, poor dad? I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 3:I had a great experience. I read through it. It was a quick read and it was like, do I want like a book three times thicker than this? Like I, I don't know. I kind of liked the idea that he does start to like splinter off and he does offer like, okay, I do dive into a little bit more and he does give that answer and so I I'm pretty happy with the size of it.
Speaker 3:And if you, if you really think about it, if you look at how it's laid out, there's the chapter, then there's a chapter summary and then there's a study guide. So if you just take the chapters by themselves, this is a quick little book. It's a really fast read and it's almost like a pamphlet. But if you take all the other study, extracurricular, you know extra stuff out, it's a really short little book. And you know I he made, he did this to make money, but gosh, he really has hit on some stuff. That has got me more organized in these last few weeks. I've had several conversations with my business partners, with my accountants. It's been a really good book in my life. The timing of it, tax season coming up, I mean it really has not answered a lot of questions for me, but it has given me a lot of motivation to get my financial questions asked and start to look into stuff.
Speaker 3:And so I do like how he he dives in in these last few chapters. You know, really reinforcing the education is important he does. You know, earlier I was kind of bugged to that. It's like man, you know, you're just kind of brushing the surface. Is there more to it? Are there more details? And he, he does tell you that, like even with these chapters, he's like if you're not like ready to work, like stop reading. You're not, you're not ready, like if you want to be rich, you're gonna have to work really hard. So he kind of does at the end of the book I feel do a pretty good job of like saying okay, like not everyone can do this, you really have to make the decision. Like living a rich life is a lot of work and you do have to be the key holder of your own kingdom, which takes work and but you know it can pay off. So I like a lot of the sentiment towards these last chapters.
Speaker 3:But let's just get right into into chapter eight. Getting started, he gave us all this good information and got us all hyped up to buy a bunch of homes. And now it's like, okay, now what? So I like that he has these types of chapters towards the end I'm not going to lie there's a couple of things in the chapter that just like it's like whoa, it's 2024. Can you say that? So you can definitely feel some like old, old timey stuff still creeping around in this book and it's just like the Indian giving principle. I'm like isn't that racist? Now, I don't know. But anyways, let's just get right to these questions.
Speaker 3:Number one what are the reasons you want to become rich? Your wants and don't wants? Would Robert think they are strong enough? So he basically in this chapter is saying like yo money's not enough. Like you got to have wants, you got to have don't wants. Like I don't want to work a nine to five, I don't want a boss. Like those are powerful and the wants should be a little bit more than just money. It's like I want my kids to have a good education, I want, you know, deep rooted wants. I really liked that he touched on that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:Number two are your spending habits reflecting the life you want? If not, what can you change? Three what are you choosing to put in your head every day? When was the last time you took a seminar or read a business book other than this one? Number four what have you learned from your friends about finances, good or bad? Five would you say your self-discipline muscle is in shape or needs a good workout. Number six do you have a board of directors, brokers and other professionals? You pay well for their excellent information and ability to make you money in your life. Seven did you understand the concept put forth in step seven? If not, discuss it with your study partner and that's the board of directors or wait, no, no, no. Step seven oh shit, I'd have to go back and look what that step seven was. Number eight the last time you purchased a luxury, how did you pay for it? Number nine who is your financial hero? How do you emulate this person in your actions? And he talks about having heroes and emulating them and that principle.
Speaker 3:I had to really kind of read it over a few times because I'm very much a Bruce Lee guy and Bruce Lee is like make things your own, like find inspiration maybe, and like learn from things, but make it your own. And so I read it over a few times and it fits. It still fits like so I liked that. I do think it's important to find mentors or teachers and inspirational figures, and so that's essentially the questions. Reading over those. I like doing that for the rest of the audience that might not be reading along, because those questions do. They don't cover the details of the chapter but they do ask questions that kind of cover the principles he's trying to teach in these, these chapters. So I'm excited to hear what you guys got. I give a few thoughts. I'll give a few more thoughts throughout the night, but, dap, let's start with you tonight, my friend. What are you? How'd you like this chapter?
Speaker 7:I like it.
Speaker 3:You can hear me right yes, nice, I think, I think you're driving, but you're coming through loud and clear.
Speaker 7:I am driving. I am headed to a wonderful on-site to an IT emergency where shit has literally hit the fan. So I also got me a new truck today that I've been waiting for three years to get, so I have it in my truck this early on what you get bro. I ordered a Ford Maverick three years ago and it just now came in.
Speaker 3:Wow, congrats three years, what's?
Speaker 7:cool is it was locked in at the three years ago price before everything went crazy.
Speaker 3:So so how are you looking at this truck now after reading this book? Is this a doodad or an asset?
Speaker 7:well. So I had a. I had a 2020 Ford Fusion that bought as a new demo and they gave me a really good deal on it and you know that's a hybrid, so it was getting like 40 40 miles to the gallon and so at the time when I went to make this deal, car prices were really high. So the Maverick is a pretty cheap truck it's the cheapest truck that you can buy new and it's a four-door truck. It's a very small one, but it's a hybrid also, and so right now it says I'm getting 46 miles to the gallon, which is pretty crazy in the truck and yeah, I'm loving it so far, the selling. But I wasn't gonna get it when it once it came in because the I was actually going to make money off of the trade. I was gonna pocket some money and then it turned out that you know the price variation since then you know three years of long time so in the car world or any sort of financial world and, yeah, it ended up having to pay some money. But I essentially have my the car that I had, but with more room in it and a truck bed now. So always found myself in pinches where I was like, you know I really would have liked to have had, you know, a truck bed to be able to, you know, do like my raised garden beds. Or if I was like doing a little project myself somewhere with, like, having to deal with a little bit of construction materials or something, then you know, that way I had it. So I know that after reading the book and stuff, I was a little bit hesitant on doing it because I was like, yeah, I'm gonna have to pay just a little bit more, but then I don't have any car debt because we paid them all off and everything. But you know I didn't finance this one or anything. So it was. I know you know he may have a different opinion about it, but or three years ago, and to me, you know I'm pretty much breaking even on how much it's worth now versus then. And Ford had gave me a rebate to and they gave me the old price and that. And the cool thing was, is I supposed to have a 22 model? Well, I've got a 24 model instead. So it was okay with me and it's just. One of the things is like you know, this is not a typical vehicle purchase situation. It was something that was a little bit more special because it ended up being like a deal upon a deal, but the deal got less sweetened, so I'm okay with it.
Speaker 7:I did actually let my son come and see it and he was like super stoked about it. He was like, oh, dad, the truck and stuff he thought was so cool and the ISTM is what I did. I was like, do you want me to trade my car and get the truck? And he was like yeah. And then whenever I ended up driving the car home that night and he looked out the window, he actually cried that I did not have the truck. So I actually went today and traded my car in and I got the truck in time to go and pick him up today from preschool.
Speaker 7:And that kid is more excited about this truck than I am, that's for sure. He thanked me three or four times telling his teacher about it. There's this little girl that rolled window down way. She's like hey, hey, robin, my dad got a new truck. It's just a cute as shit ever. So I was like you know, just me knowing that he's happy about it. I can't I have literally have no buyers, or more so, over it whatsoever and it's yeah, so it. It's kind of like if I were a vehicle on a way like I did have an F-150 back in the day, but the thing it like 18 or 20 miles to the gallon and stuff and I have four-wheel drive.
Speaker 7:I have no reason to have four-wheel drive for what I do stuff, but it's just the thing to have in this area. I didn't have that truck even more than I went to a hybrid. I love the amount of gas mileage that I got like 600 mile range on a tank, and then I mean, you know, 40 plus miles a gallon, which is crazy. So then this is like combining those two things in a way. So I was like you know, I can't complain if I have everything I need.
Speaker 3:So that's why I did it about the book. Now that's exciting, I mean, that's what we're all working for, you know, and it is fun to show off to the kids. I mean it's like there's a couple people in my life where it's like call my mom, call my kids, brag about accomplishments or new things. Yeah well he was.
Speaker 7:He was my decision-maker. I was like, if he likes it, I was thinking about pulling out and they were cool with that because of how long it had been the dealership man. We understand, you know, so many different things could change by now with your situation or whatever we get that, we can have it salt tomorrow because it's in such high demand. So let me let me thank on. And then I admit I got Jacqueline and I got it just to beat me out. There. He it was like a kid seeing like a bulldozer for the first time or something. I guess I gotta do this, so I just went ahead.
Speaker 7:Jack was like you just need to go ahead and do it. I don't know. I was like you know what, just fucking, I just get it. So it was like I guess it was kind of me putting fear to the side, like I knew everything was gonna be okay anyway. So I was like you know, but okay paying yourself first yeah, oh, I did that too.
Speaker 7:I did that too. I forgot to mention that I actually did pay myself this week. That was pretty cool, felt good, because now I look at that bank account I'm like you know what will be okay, because even if it does go down more which will, and then it'll fluctuate everything then I'll figure something out. But I totally operate that way. It's kind of like how I wasn't college and stuff. Somehow I was able to just write a paper without doing a rough draft, and I do it like the day or two before it was doing. It's kind of similar anyway, like I don't know. It's like the procrastination, but it's a little bit different than that. You're just meeting a deadline that you had to do in school, whereas the other thing is like, if you don't do this, you got to fill that reserve.
Speaker 7:Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna feel it and people work for you gonna feel it and you can't. You know you're literally affecting people besides your own self. You know the education part. You're only hurting yourself in that sense with that. But yeah, I liked the chapter and I felt like it went more into detail on some of the questions we may have all had if we weren't into the book that much. I felt that it it gave, like a full circle, some closure on some things and answered some questions on. You know, be more realistic on how to handle some of the stuff. It doesn't get specific but you know he kind of addresses like hey, I get that there's other shit that you got to worry about. Hey, I get that you know there's this thing called life.
Speaker 3:And then he actually tells us hey, I wasn't successful until I got to be 47, so this chapter that he said out of 10 deals, like two or three of them are good ones. Was that this chapter?
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 3:I like that he's giving us some stats. It's like, oh, finally he's not batting 10 out of 10 like that. Oh, that feels so much better. Like and. And then he also hints towards like protect your losses, make sure they're not so bad, like that kind of talk. I enjoyed that. I, yeah, sorry to cut you off, keep going no, no, no, that's good.
Speaker 7:And you know, I like it had to be done this way in order for us to want to continue to read. And I mean, if someone just come up to me off the street and was just like you know, I know how to make you wealthy and here's how to do it, I just feel like, yeah, I don't have time to listen to that, but if I was seeking out the information on it, I would want to know the person's, some somewhat their portfolio of what they have done, and then them tell me you know somewhat of how they did it, or at least their advice on how they did it. And that's how the order of the book ended up going. Yeah, in the beginning, you know, he told us what we did and then I mean, we didn't know, that he was gonna tell us you know these parts.
Speaker 7:So then it could come off as being arrogant or oh, look what I have done. I have amassed all this shit and you know, so you don't. I'm glad that the this chapter's there to help, you know, bring it down to like a real-world level of life. I think this is the one where he tries to like connect with the reader and go hey, you know, you're, you're probably at the bottom and I was, you know, somewhere in the same vicinity, not the bottom, bottom, but you know, if you're comparing it to being, he was it within the bottom 5% and now he's in the top 2%. That's a lot of variants, a lot of growth to go to. So I mean, I just, yeah, I like the chapter and it didn't seem as informative as the last one, but I liked it did you see any?
Speaker 3:do you see any downsides or anything that that you know rubbed you the wrong way, or that you didn't like about this chapter the or that you think maybe other people might not enjoy about it?
Speaker 7:I'm sure there's others, I'm sure there's stuff in there that other people wouldn't enjoy so much. I mean, some people are gonna think about it. I mean some people even think that giving would be, you know, something that they be like, oh you know. But I kind of see that now on there too, because it's sometimes it's when other people see you give, then that kind of proves to other people that saw you give, if they're, you know, in a position to be able to do something with you, for you to be able to make game, they may see that as a calling card of, hey, that person is, you know, a true, sincere person or whatnot. You know, if you do that enough and everything you could like you do, you know you say it's buying karma. I can see that that's essentially the same. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that's in here that Robert does that I think that Lane does.
Speaker 3:So yeah, and I don't really know why I do it. I just keep doing it because I think it works.
Speaker 7:Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that and then I can't remember. I just got to the place and it'd be, but I'm trying to remember what was it that you asked me? It was about stuff that people got rid of the wrong way from certain things, or yeah yeah like I'll give you the example of the Indian.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is so irrelevant, but I was just like can we say that now? It felt like in 2024 that could have been.
Speaker 7:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah the blanket, yeah, yeah, a couple things that.
Speaker 3:But for the most part he's not trying. I mean he's he's Japanese-American, right and grew up in Hawaii. I'm he's not trying to.
Speaker 3:I I just feel like some of his comparisons and maybe, maybe I listen to Sparky and I I'm like, yeah, you're right, he is kind of off about some things, the Robin Hood stuff like. So I wasn't sure if a couple things were just off. But this, this was a bigger chapter and and it definitely had some some of the like oh, the number three I think it was choose, choose friends carefully. I really like that, but I could also see how that could have rubbed people the wrong way, because he's like yo, if you're not talking money with your friends, like they are low life, and go find people that you can talk to about money, because rich people are okay, talk about money and and poor people and it was just like, oh, that that conversation felt a little off.
Speaker 7:So I don't know, I don't know if anyone else that yes, so that part, obviously, you know, brought some feelings out and then, especially with that it I was gonna say to that this chapter how I said the last chapter made me feel pretty alone. Well, this chapter felt made me feel a little bit even more alone, just in that because I, I, I don't know, it's like something just happened to me a few years ago or something, and whenever I sold my storage units and got into doing my sports betting stuff that I do and some other things, and then it's like that kind of consumed me in a good way, that and and it helped me a big time because, like I'm gonna, nobody really ever talks about this. But you know, we we're in a generation, at a time, where a lot of people like to play video games all the time I grew up a video games that they're there and everything, and they've been made by people. They're there for entertainment purposes, but I mean you sit down and play a game and I remember playing a game, like growing up I spend like all damn day playing the game and then you know, then you get to the point where you know I got to like World of Warcraft at some point in my life. I remember staying up for like 30 hours or something playing a fucking game, doing that and that's like that's crazy.
Speaker 7:And then you know, and then I got married and then after that things changed a little bit and then I became less interested in it and then even when, when I had the stuff happen that I was talking about, when I like sold the, the storage units and did stuff of betting and everything, and then it was like that became my new game then. And then he talks about that sort of like mindset where you you make the money a game and then it's like it completely is different than the way you look at things. Like you look at a building, you'll be like I wonder how much that is and you know how, what all is going on in there. And you look at a business and you're like, oh yeah, that's how that works over there and just have a complete different mindset that had changed, like it's nowhere near what it used to be and stuff. And there's some times where I'll sit I mean I'll play a game or once in a while now, but there's times where I will like, after I did that and I started getting into the quote-unquote money game, I started feeling disgusted with playing them. It was the weirdest thing. I've never really talked about that before, but it's. It's something that I'm being really open about right now and it's just one of those things where it just it's very easy to become so consumed and something like that.
Speaker 7:But you know, like we had a there's your brother in law, right, is who the rocks stunt done? Yes, sir, okay. So like when we asked him about the video games in the toilet or whatever. So video games and stuff, he's like you know you got to have like your own little exit, your little vice or whatever and stuff you know or whatever. But yeah, I don't, I don't have that anymore. On that one, I mean, every once in a while it's there and stuff you know. But you know I got two young kids and then they got my wife and you know it's I don't know. And then they always say this is like three things that you can only like choose to do at a time. Like you choose to have friends, family or you know money or health or whatever, like the different things, but you only able to really like keep up with three at the time. So you got like shift.
Speaker 3:So I don't know if you've ever heard that before, but yeah, that that's almost relevant to some things that he he talks about of. Like you know, pay, pay people to handle some of that stuff, and, man, that's a nice idea, yeah.
Speaker 7:I'm to handle your kids. I'm not paying anybody. Handle my wife, but that's good enough for me. Y'all do, y'all staying. All listen while I'm in here trying to be Superman yes, good luck on the on the emergency call.
Speaker 3:You're doing surgery on some important device and I actually got my Xbox finally boxed up. The box has some dust on it. I'm gonna get it all dusted off and ship it to you. Finally, dad, I'll do it.
Speaker 3:I'll do a video from beginning to end of on it nice hopefully I didn't do anything stupid to break it and you're like, oh, this is a telltale sign of someone tripping over the a pillow and body slam in the Xbox. Like I can tell with you know, I don't know what we did to it. Ryan, I'm excited to hear what you think, what you like about the chapter. What did you not like?
Speaker 6:oh yeah, good evening. Well, honestly, I kind of hit the spot more or less kind of title for me for some of the things that I was thinking about. Last chapter, what not and I'm sorry if I sound a little stuffed up. I'm a little into weather. Today is good, old kids in the school stuff sign this man whoo. But um, and my thoughts aren't there.
Speaker 6:I actually took a good, good, solid map today, which was really epic, because I don't ever do that but I'm yeah. So congratulations, dapp, on that truck. That's a huge milestone. I bet you're excited for that. I just wanted to shout that out. I remember you mentioned something about it was coming to fruition soon and now it's here. So it's exciting to hear that your son was super excited about that. Right there you're kind of set those goals for him by having him visualize that and experience it, and that's kudos to you for doing that and sharing that.
Speaker 6:And then sharing also your other tidbits that you shared actually can relate to that kind of similar.
Speaker 6:Actually, I was the only one I felt like that. I was like would I kind of pull myself away and I, you know, like really dove into trying to, you know, focus on, you know being productive and stuff, and then realizing you know, oh, it's 12 o'clock, I'm going to jump on and play a match, and it's like, get on there. And it's like, yeah, you know and you know, and to discuss this feeling almost like it's not, and when you were speaking about it, I just was like, dude, what you were experiencing is exactly what they put in there, that dopamine that we're chasing. They're always chasing that dopamine in that game 30 hours, great, nonstop. But anyhoo, and let's relate that towards the book, and that is kind of some of the things that you could kind of thrive off as well Setting those milestones and then experiencing that, you know, paying yourself, like actually, that was one thing I was going to share a lot of time was, you know, I never did do that Like paying yourself as a you know, being a boss of people like you.
Speaker 6:Just, you know, just pay them their wage and then just kind of paid the materials and then put it right into the business. It's like where did I ever pay my wage, you know? So that would be a good thing to always do and to set milestones for that. I was going to touch base. One thing that I kind of was thinking about reading through this was kind of having some of that unproceeded money. You know it's great, you know, with your savings account or whatever investments and stuff, but some of the best ones are the unseemly ones that you just walk away and put away and then come back to it years later. Sometimes it can be devastating too as well, but that one has definitely been one of the things that has been my driving force lately is to one of the last couple of years I mean COVID really brought it out we were able to dive in the financial system, understand it more, understand how the circulation really works and whatnot. So and then be able to say, all right, well, put this away for a rainy day and you know, the best thing I've ever could have done for myself and for what I get to that age is open. One of those. What is it I'm not a brain fart now Acorn acorn, I did that I don't know how many years ago, and every time you go and spend it it puts towards, you know, if it's 50 cents, it puts the 50 cents in savings. So, and then every Monday, $5 and every month 20 bucks, so it's actually a little over, you know, 40 bucks. You know, and that's just just easy, right, with you just doing that. And then and this is the importance of unproceeding money that I think he was kind of trying to hint at a little bit and setting yourself up for that, if you're doing those in other aspects, if you're doing that like, you can kind of do it within the banks too, right, you take, you know, $100,000 and say, hey, I want to invest this in and put it away for five years and then invest it into whatever you figure out to invest it with and you get a little bit of percentage of interest, right, which is really always the beneficial thing If you're not needing that capital at the moment.
Speaker 6:And I believe that, right, there is always the key point of trying to set yourself up for longevity on your next adventure or having good business partners too. That is definitely one of the key aspects that I was never actually understood. And learn the hard way not working well with my business partner and learning the hard way from it and but learning the lessons from it and understanding where and identifying it and coming to truth with it too and I believe that was spoke about in a couple of beginning chapters is doing that and identifying those things that you know. You can kind of, you know, improve on or identify that you did wrong so you don't and you can correct that mistake and make it a better, better approach For some of the things kind of like I don't know. I would say for me personally, it would always been the set in those goals, set in the vision, which were some of the key notes at the chapter which I really enjoy. I actually print those out because it's been kind of a nice reminder.
Speaker 6:Honestly, I was like dude, I need to keep reminding my mind that, like, take money for yourself, take money for yourself, and then also with the audio soundtracks that I like to listen to and sleep, it's always right there in front of me when I'm trying to remind myself and then you just kind of get in these comfortable positions and you can't get characterable. Once you're characterable, then that's the part that really ties you down and let's I don't know, I'm going to call it toxicity, but definitely not advancing and make bettering yourself in any way by doing that. So it's always getting out of that comfortable position, taking that leap of faith and just diving headfirst. I'm just still stuck on that part in the last chapter where he reminded me I'm getting fricking old, damn it. I'm like, okay, well, I can't just sit here and think about that snowboard business that once was in my mind but which I'm not. I just use them as an example. Like God, I always thought about it right, but never did it because there's a fears and a thought, a feelings and what else. So you just can't have that and expect you to get to that age.
Speaker 6:And another thing when that brought up I wanted to also talk about this topic was even if you're all that old, it doesn't matter. Look at KSC, Look at that guy. That guy, right there was 46 or 42. I can't remember one or the two when he started the KSC and became a multi-million dollar business. So it was never too late.
Speaker 6:That's kind of what I got to take at from that too as well, and I feel that, too, as long as you're planning, you'll plan for the future and trying to always anticipate your next move and anticipate your next reward.
Speaker 6:I don't know if that's what you're considering, that it your self-doubt as a reward towards yourself and the family, but that's definitely a nice reward, right, you know, and you guys actually had to sit and wait for it. So that's cool, you know, and I just enjoy hearing stuff like that, and I feel those are things that I personally could do a little better. And actually, you know, I've got a couple things in my works for my children that's going to do a little spoiling on spring break and kind of that fruition of planning and prepping and when it would be possible if it wasn't for, honestly, like a couple of these chapters to be like wake up, wake up, wake up. So kudos to that. And I feel like I was going to get to a couple other topics a little scattered brain right now. Medicine is definitely working, Sinuses are still a little stuff, but how are we going to speak? Pretty well, so I'm excited that. I thank you once again, you guys.
Speaker 3:Great stuff, ryan. Hey, congrats on the nap earlier also, and good luck with the sinuses. Oh man, there's a couple seasons during the year when the allergies, the change of the times really get me. So, as much as I love springtime coming up, I can already start to feel it and I might have to. Man, last year I was in the clear. Some years are better than others. It's crazy, but sinus stuff is so uncomfortable. I feel you there, brother, and yeah, if you think of the other stuff that was on your mind, I always love hearing your thoughts. Sparky, what did you think? What did you like? What did you not like?
Speaker 4:There was. There was. I have mixed, mixed feelings about it, to be honest. There was a lot of instances I felt where he was contradicting what he was saying, where he would say don't do this and then would turn around and go go do this. It's like you just said not to do that, like what the fuck? It just felt very contradictory. Like a lot of things in the chapter and I don't know, I just I had a tough time reading through it because I kept just every, every time I came across something that was contradictory, I was like you just said not to do this. Now you're saying to do this, like don't follow the crowd, and then tells you to follow the crowd. Like it's, it's just, I don't know it. The chapter just felt off. It just it felt really off.
Speaker 4:In that sense, I don't like the telling people you have to pay yourself first mentality, especially in today's economy and today's society. Not that I don't like it. Yes, you should pay yourself, but only if you can afford it. And obviously he says that at one point, but it's not emphasized enough and I feel like if people just get into the mindset of, oh well, he said you know, I should just pay myself first and then I'll be financially stable. It's like no, that's not how it fucking works. Like he's doing it because he even said I only put in money that I'm willing to lose or that I cannot. Not a willing to lose that I can afford to lose.
Speaker 4:But if you are literally and, like I said, he kind of grazed over this, he didn't really dive into it. But if you are somebody who is, you're strapped, it's it's tough to make ends meet. You're not being able to like pay your bills on time, you're in credit card debt. This is not stuff you should be doing. None of this stuff is stuff that you should be doing because you do not have the financial backing to be able to to like do this sort of stuff. You're, you're literally just making ends meet.
Speaker 4:What he is talking about is people who don't have a lot of debt or don't have a lot of struggles and you know they're not having to make ends meet. It's like he likes to chastise people and you have a poorer mindset and he likes to try and make you feel like you need to do better to better yourself, to get out of it. But we are also we are all also creatures of our environment and and our circumstances. And if our circumstances are shit and like like something, like I hate that I keep mentioning this, but you know I haven't been working for a long time and money is tight for us, like really, really tight for us, I'm not going to sit here and start investing in shit that I can't afford to throw money at, especially now, like I'm not going to go drop $150 on an NFT or $1500 on an NFT that some of these NFTs are getting up to because they don't have the money to do it. I know and I can't afford to lose that money if it does go down. Now I do have some money that I'm doing stuff with and it's stuff that I've, like it's been sitting there doing nothing for a long time and you know I've I've made money with it, so it's in a better state, but I'm not about to go and do a very risky thing. The stuff that I'm doing I've calculated and learned and, like Dap talked about the sports betting stuff, like we've gone through and like dotted at our eyes and crossed our T's with that. It's not like I'm looking at an NFT project and going, yeah, it has potential. So you know I'm going to throw $1,000 that in the hope that it hits Like that's. That's not. That's not what we should be doing and obviously that's not assets and that's not what he's telling you to do, but it's. It's just a really, really contradictory chapter chapter to me.
Speaker 4:One of the things that I came across this week was I was listening to I don't know if you ever heard of the whatever podcast, but it's a podcast that these like Ultra conservative guys talk to these porn star girls and they debate the consequences of porn on the dating relationships of people and whatever. But one of the things that was brought up in one of these episodes that I was watching I think it was from Valentine's Day or before Valentine's Day but one of the things that was brought up was the fact that it's like something like 70 or 80 percent of the women that do only fans only make about $150 a month doing it. It's very rare and very hard to make millions of dollars doing this and people see that there's women out there doing this and they're they're making my, so they automatically think that they can do this and they put their morals aside and whatever, and they go, and they go and get naked on camera and whatever, and they don't make the money. And my point behind this is it's it's something that you need to prioritize in your life when it comes to trying to make money and trying to like, win big and do these things that, like he's talking about, which he mentioned to, is you have to do something that you are Comfortable with, that you've like research, that you've learned, and Not do something that just because other people are doing it and making millions of dollars doesn't mean you're going to do it. You have to find that thing that you are good at and that you're comfortable with and that that works for you. Don't compromise who you are, but also don't go into something that you're Illiterate and like, like the real estate stuff. Don't go by in real estate to to try and make it, because he said so, if you don't understand the ins and outs of real estate, you're not going to, you're not going to make it big. It's the same thing with all these people out there trying to be streamers and YouTubers and Like. There's so few people out there that actually make a living doing this stuff and it's it's quote, unquote playing games and hobbies and they're not actually doing work. It can like compared to real work. But the other side of that too, is the.
Speaker 4:The financial literacy aspect of things is you need to be literate In that stuff. If you're going to do something that you're trying to make money off of, whatever it is, whatever your your Bang or idea or however you want to say it is, you have to be, you have to be literate in it and you also have to be literate in general in finances, because Even if you didn't make it big it's like you said with the lottery and gambling and that stuff you can lose your ass the next day, like most people who win the lottery they don't know what to do with their winnings and so they go and blow it on stupid shit. So it feel like the conversation and I said this last on on Monday feeling the conversation needs to be more about critical thinking and less about Taking these gurus, these these self help experts, at their face value. And it's again one of the contradictory things that he says in the chapter is something about listening to people and then you know not arguing, but then he goes on and says but ask questions, it's like. But asking questions is sort of arguing, and you said to listen and then shut up. But now you're saying to question things, and I agree with that. I think questioning is great, but I think, like I said, he's very contradictory with some of the stuff he says and I feel like we need to be not just listening to the one side of the story, like this guy who is telling us that we have to do things a certain way or whatever.
Speaker 4:You need to listen to different avenues, but you have to be where the literacy needs to be for us. You have to be able to listen to multiple sources and differentiate where the facts are and where the faults are. Again, a lot of the stuff that he says in this chapter is or not in this chapter, in this book in general, is very outdated and it just wouldn't work in today's economy. Like the housing market is so inflated in certain parts of the world and again this the circumstances aspect of people and their environment and their circumstances. You have a lot of people who aren't even in the US or in Canada or in other parts of the world where all this stuff doesn't apply to them whatsoever.
Speaker 4:So it's a very weird book to read through and like all these different points he makes, like choose your friends carefully and the power of association. That's a great thing to say, but also it's tough to advise people on that, because people are going to like who they like, despite certain avenues. You can't tell them you chose the wrong friend or whatever. I think it's great that he has friends from different avenues and he's able to use critical thinking in that, but that's the side of things that you need to have is, if you're choosing your friends carefully, you have to be able to, like I said, think critically and be able to decide why you're choosing your friends and what you're getting from them in that essence. Not that friendship should be transactional, but we do learn from our friends and we grow from our friends, and you don't want to be friends with people who are constantly saying stuff that's just not rooted in reality, but you want to be friends with people who are able to challenge things and question things, whether it's always opposing your views or supporting your views, but still challenging the other side. I don't know.
Speaker 4:I feel like there's a lot of stuff in this chapter to pick apart. I don't like to find a reason greater than reality, the power of spirit. I think there's some stuff in that number one that is. It kind of goes with the whole secret sort of mentality and manifesting. I don't believe in that stuff. I don't think it works. There is such a thing about the purpose. We talked about it in the subtle art of not giving a fuck and having proper purposes. But your purposes should be things that are meaningful and rooted in a good place, not something that why do you want to be rich so that I can buy things? That's not a fucking good reason. There's something to be said about having a good reason, but I don't think the whole power of spirit and some of the stuff that he says is just a little hokey to me. I'm kind of trying to skim through this to find some of the contradictory stuff and at the moment my eyes aren't really picking up on it. But there's a lot of stuff that he says that's good, but then there's stuff that completely contradicts that stuff and it's just. It set me kind of put a bad taste in my mouth.
Speaker 4:At the core of it, all the little bullet points that he has. They're great, but again they could be expanded on way more and likely. He does that in some of his teachings, so again it feels more like it's a marketing ploy trying to sell you on courses that teaches you how to do these things, like master a formula and then learn a new one, the power of learning quickly. Well, we just you can't master a formula if you're learning it quickly. Mastery takes time. It takes years to master things.
Speaker 4:So saying master a formula and then learn onto a new one, learn a new one quick, like it's just Again. You could go through and pick these things apart piece by piece. I think mastering many formulas is great but it takes time and dedication to master that stuff. You can't learn something like baking cookies. You could go bake cookies tomorrow but you're not going to master that cookie recipe in a day and you'll probably forget it the next day. And it'll take you time to get it down to a science where you can do it from memory and throw it together lickety-split.
Speaker 4:But that's not something that's going to happen quickly. We aren't creatures of quick learning. It takes repetition for us and I'm saying that on the majority of things. It's the same thing, like I've gotten into doing a lot of making things with recipes myself and it's trial and error. It really is. And, yeah, you can have the formula, like I've made these dinner rolls for us like four times now, and the first time was terrible, like they didn't work properly. The second time was slightly better, the third time they were even better, the fourth time, you know. So things are getting better and it's not something that's been a quick thing. It's happened over the course of like three weeks or four weeks. So I don't like some of the stuff that he's saying, but I think it still has some good points to it.
Speaker 4:We talked about the pay yourself first, but the power of self-discipline, I mean, that's something, the self-discipline aspect. I get that he's trying to teach people self-discipline, but there's people out there who try and learn that and master that for decades and they still can't master self-discipline. Like we have impulses, we have impulse control issues. It's not something that you can just, you know, tomorrow be like. You know I'm done with this. I'm going to be more disciplined on how I do things. Like it's just I don't know, it's easier said than done for a lot of the stuff and he would probably say that I'm, you know I'm too critical and I'm with the chicken little, but I don't know it's. There's a lot of stuff that he like he covers.
Speaker 4:Like I said, I do agree with the pay your brokers well and the power of good advice. I think that's that's a great concept for everybody. But it's also one of those things that you have to have the ability to be able to think critically. And, and you know, shop around is where I'm trying to go with this. He kind of touches on it, but not entirely. You want to look around and see who who has your best interests at heart. It's no different than going to a mechanic. There's like 50 mechanics out there that'll try and swindle you, but there's the one out there who's actually really good at what he does and does it because he wants to help fix cars, not fuck people over. So you have to be able to separate your, your brain from the, the friendships that you may have formed or the relationships that you may have formed, and step out of that ability to get swindled by smooth talkers and take things at face value to some degree and hear what they're saying. But shop around and get the best option for you, find the best person for you, and I think it's really good.
Speaker 4:He said in another chapter that you pay people to do the things that you don't want to do, sort of thing and if you pay them well enough, you'll, you'll do fine. But this is for people who have the money to do that. If you don't have the money to be paying people like this don't like you can't afford it. You know, I also the whole being an Indian giver the power of getting something for nothing. It seems a bit ass backwards too. If you're broke and you're strapped for cash to go be like, hey, I'm going to give $1,000 away when I don't have $1,000 to feed my family Because I know I'm going to get it back tenfold, whereas you know I've seen so many people that have done the goodwill thing and they get burned over it because you know I'm giving money away and it never comes back the way that they expected. I just see more cases of people getting burned in that instance having I don't know what the right word is at the moment but having faith in humanity that you know it'll, it'll, it'll come back and benefit you, but it ends up always shitting on you and burning you.
Speaker 4:We've seen it from I'll throw Lane under the bus here. We've seen it from Lane on countless occasions in recent years where he's very giving and very friendly and you know people then take advantage of that and they try and scam him. They've stolen NFTs and sold them and you know, oh, he's buying art from these people. So I'm going to now make art for him and try and sell it to him. Like people see how generous Lane can be, and so they they tend to think how can I get something from him, how can I make money off of this?
Speaker 4:And it's, it's an unfortunate thing that it happens. Sure, lane might be benefiting from it in the long run, you know, paying karma or whatever, and he's making it back tenfold to some degree or whatever. But it still doesn't come without its its complications. There's, there's still tons of people out there who are, you know, they see something and they're they're like let's, let's fucking take advantage of this. It's an unfortunate side of reality. It's just we have to look at reality as it is and see that, yeah, this shit happens. You know, using number eight sorry, I'm kind of going through the list using number, using assets to buy luxury is a great, great concept If you can do that, if you have the money to do that, if you have the assets to do that. But if you don't, I mean you shouldn't be buying luxuries to begin with If you're struggling and whatnot. I mean, I feel like he's kind of he says this stuff very, very loosely but doesn't touch on it and needs to be said more Because unfortunately, with books like this, the people who end up reading these books are the ones who are trying to do the get rich quick.
Speaker 4:Not by and large, but, but you know, a lot of people out there are trying to find something that's going to help them make money quickly and when they're reading something like this, they're taking it at face value and not reading between the lines and not digging deeper. And we have a lot of people in society who are tend to be sheep and follow the flock and hear this guy telling them what to do, and you know, I'm just going to go throw money at this and hopefully it sticks, but it doesn't always work that way. So there's a lot of stuff that it needs to be kind of reiterated and said like don't do this if you can't, and really emphasize on that. But you know, if you can do it, great, it's no more power to you than you're not living in debt, you're not living on credit cards. Choose heroes. I think that's bullshit, To be honest, I think it's bullshit because there are many instances, in many cases, where these idols that we idolize, whether celebrities or whoever, they do something and then everybody throws them under the bus.
Speaker 4:If you want to choose heroes, choose heroes that aren't celebrities. I'm completely for that. I think it's great to idolize people who are educated, who are you know. They're the type of person that's not in the public eye or they're not a celebrity. To some degree, I think we've gone away from idolizing and putting intellects and like free figures. We've gone away from that and we've focused more on idolizing the celebrities who have no place in teaching us things when it comes to the reality of finances or the reality of the world. I mean, we look at what happened with COVID and how many of these celebrities were bitching and moaning about being stuck indoors. It's like motherfucker, you have billions of dollars shut up. There's so many people who have it way worse than you and you're complaining Just don't, and that's the sort of shit that I'm like. We don't need to be idolizing these people more. If you want to have a hero, have a hero in somebody who's actually making a benefit, making doing good for society. There's so many people out there who are actually doing good. Those are the people that should be idolized, not the people who are trying to, like, essentially, swindle you more and make more money out of you. I don't agree with that.
Speaker 4:The power of myth and whatever. I just don't. I think we put too much emphasis on building up these people, these characters, in our mind, and then when they do something, that's, you know, against the grain or whatever. I mean. Look at Bill Cosby, for instance Fucking.
Speaker 4:Bill Cosby was a hero to so many for so many years, and then all this information came out about him roofing women and it became a huge issue. And so here goes this, this hero that so many people grew up listening to, who told them so many good words of advice on the show, and you know. Now he's been vilified and rightly so for the shit that he did. But now your hero is completely just destroyed. We need to do better in who we, who we, idolize. In that sense, I just think it's. It's a bit ridiculous Teaching you shall receive those that cannot do teach. There's a quote out there that basically makes fun of teachers in general and basically the people who can't do things in life. They become teachers because they can't actually do the things that they're trying to teach. And I don't agree with the teaching you shall receive, because not everybody can teach not everybody can teach the stuff that they know.
Speaker 4:It's a skill to some degree to teach, and I'm not bastardizing teachers in any way and I'm not saying they're terrible but I don't think that if you can do something, you should be teaching something, because that's not always the case. There are many instances in our society and in our history where people who tried to do things couldn't teach them and things went wrong. And if you don't have the ability to teach, this is not a message that you should be taking the face value, especially if what you're trying to teach is not beneficial in any way. What are you offering as something to teach? And I feel like this is just him coming back to his philosophy of I'm trying to make money out of people, so I'm going to teach people. I was taught this stuff, so I'm going to now teach this stuff, but it doesn't feel like I don't know. I'm rambling on about a lot of shit, but I feel like I'm hitting the points that I want to hit to some degree. He also talks about in the vein of this teaching thing and then, going back to the learning thing, he talks about going and taking courses all the time, and I don't think that you should be taking all these courses and wasting money on stuff if you can't afford to eat and whatever. I think you can do things for free. You can look stuff up for free. There's a lot of information out there for free.
Speaker 4:But this again it comes down to the critical thinking about piecing together the right information versus the wrong information and misinformation. Learning and teaching we're creatures of learning. We're always learning, but don't make it a lifelong goal to be a student and never master anything. We should always have something that we're really good at and focus on it, I think. But don't teach it if you've mastered something. Don't teach it if you can't teach, because it's very difficult to teach things Sometimes. It's easier to just do them if you've mastered them.
Speaker 4:I don't know. Like I said, I've rambled on a shit ton about this stuff. Hopefully what I've said makes sense to people. I'm not trying to teach people in essence, but I think that with these books that we're reading, with the self-help genre, I feel like a lot of the stuff that's out there is relatively scammy. It's just trying to garnish sales in their way. There's some treasures out there that you might find that are pretty good and will offer some good information, but there's a lot of stuff out there that is very iffy, to say the least. It goes back to, again, critical thinking. It's my biggest thing for everybody you need to be able to take information from multiple sources and find where the reality is. In that, it's just the way that we need to be to better ourselves. I feel like if more people did that, then we would be able to absorb this information better, because we could pick and choose the pieces of it that feel a bit more beneficial and not bother with the ones that sound like complete and utter garbage.
Speaker 3:Anyway, I'll shut up Good thoughts Sparky. A couple thoughts. I think it's really fun to think about this little book club space as us meeting in a physical location and all of us that are speaking we're just the loud people in the room that don't mind speaking our thoughts. Everyone else is still here with us, but they're just keeping quiet and listening. We're all here for a book club and I get worried about that too. When I speak my thoughts and opinions, it's like, oh, I'm up here on a Twitter space and I'm teaching. It's like, well, not really, we're in a book club, we're just bouncing ideas around and we're giving our thoughts and opinions.
Speaker 3:I thought it was really fun, in that same mindset, to think about Robert entering the room and sitting down with us. It would be so cool if you did this on the Twitter space and gave us the chance to hear his non-book answer, because he has been pretty upfront with like yo, I'm a salesman, I'm a best-selling author, I use tricks to get more sales. He's very honest about that. He's also very honest about his father that was a quote, unquote poor dad. But he still agrees with him on many levels and he's even hinted towards the fact that he's even socialist. In a lot of his political thinking and behavior and mindsets he's even split. Here's my question to keep you rambling even more which is not rambling, I love your thoughts.
Speaker 3:If he was in the room with us, do you think we would get a few answers from him? I'm not fishing for an answer, you can tell me. No, I think you'd be kind of arrogant. Whatever you truly think, do you think he would give us a few answers, though that we're like you know what? I absolutely agree with you, sparky, because a lot of what you're saying is true and I'd even back you up on some of that.
Speaker 3:Being like yo, I depend on my chicken little and my partnership for compliance, because if we don't have someone like freaking out, there's so many hidden little bombs that we could step on and we need a chicken little to find some of these and worry about them.
Speaker 3:Out there, we're dealing with the government, we're dealing with clients, we're dealing with competitors. There's so many things that if you don't have someone running reports and putting systems in place to keep an eye on things, because of what ifs it's like, I really think there are some opportunities where I think Robert would be like Sparky. You're absolutely right and I actually hire someone like you to talk me through the morning and give me the big what ifs that I need to be on the lookout for and things I'm doing wrong. Like I hire people like you and I depend on people like I can't. I can't see him not saying that right like or maybe I'm just looking at his picture on the front of his book and he's such a nice guy and I feel like I don't think he would even placate it. I think he would agree with you on some stuff, don't you think?
Speaker 4:It's tough to say because, like I haven't really done much digging into his other stuff and listening to him speak, I try to base my opinions on what I'm reading by the material itself, as opposed to going in and like watching this person, like all this person's ticktocks and whatever, and seeing how he speaks and how he portrays himself.
Speaker 4:But just based off of the information that I have, it kind of feels like and the information I have just being the book and his is kind of demeanor from writing the book, it kind of feels like a he wouldn't come, like it just there's no money to be made for him, so there's no point in him being here, it's not, he's not giving free information Now worth the time, right, so I? So it becomes a moot point in that regard that like if he wouldn't come because he's not, it's not benefiting him in any way, then why bother? Like, but if he were here and if he were listening to this, I don't know if he would be that way or not, because it also kind of seems like he may have some degree of being a yes man in that he will agree with you to your face but not say that publicly, or he'll disagree with you, but agree with you to your face and not acknowledge it publicly because he doesn't want to kind of destroy stuff. I don't know, maybe I'm misinterpreting his personality to some degree because I don't know much about him. But, like, maybe he would say, like you're saying, yeah, you're right, or whatever, but at the reality of it he doesn't agree with it or whatever. So maybe he would just to kind of placate the space and to smooth things over.
Speaker 4:But it's one of the things, like he's he's chosen his words and he's obviously written them down, which makes them a little bit more concrete. In that regard, it's tough to kind of backpedal on those words too, though there's a lot of times where people would say you know, oh, I didn't say this. And it's like no, no, you did, it's right here in black and white. So what did you mean by that? And then they try and like oh, they try and change it, or they try and reword their answer and it's like well, that's not how you wrote it here. And I feel like like we've already gotten his, his answer on things.
Speaker 4:Now, as I've said, his answers in this book are very, very limited. He leaves a lot of wiggle room so that he could expand on them. But that also opens it up to if he does expand on them, it's, it's a, it's a tricky situation because he could expand on them in one direction and then you know that direction be wrong or whatever. So I don't know, it's, it's a tough conversation to discuss, hypothetical in that sense, about a guy that I barely know. But I also feel like I would, I would be acceptable of the, the, the conversation, you know, or not, acceptable, receptive of the conversation, to have a back and forth, not arguing, but just a debate about things and see kind of where things go. Because I feel like we do that.
Speaker 4:It's not my, my goal to always be on the opposite side of things with people. It just ends up being, when I see things that are problematic, I, I, I notice them. So I, you know, if I don't say something, I'll just, you know, I'll notice them, even, even still. So you know, if I, if I weren't in this book club and and I was reading this book, I'm not going to go and tell people that I think this book is shit and say all the things that I don't agree with in the book, I would just keep that shit to myself and whatever. But you know I'm in this book club and I'm voicing my opinions about this stuff and you may not have agreed with my opinion and that's fine. One of the things that I've said for a long time about my opinions on this stuff and this goes for anybody that's saying shit in any kind of fashion, whether it's on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram or in a book you're reading take it with a green assault because we don't know everything.
Speaker 4:We have limited education in so many avenues of life that we're going basis off of our experiences and our circumstances, and I think that that's where the critical thinking comes in from the listeners. Part is they need to be able to understand that we're all different individuals with different walks of life and cookie cutter shit like this book just doesn't work for everybody. The same reason why the education system doesn't work by and large, because it's a cookie cutter system designed for one way of doing things. When there's, let's say, 32 kids in a class or however many, you can't just do it one way because you have 30 different ways of learning. So everybody here that's listening, you know you're all your own individuals. You all have your own thought processes. You have your own opinions on things and if you hear someone saying something that they think is right or correct, you have to be able to figure out what your thoughts on that are based off of the information that you've been given. Not based off of what they're saying, but based off of the different sides and everything.
Speaker 4:Because, like I said, I'm not an expert in this stuff. I'm just a guy talking about what I think about this book. I have my experiences with finances. I have my downfalls with finances. I'm not an expert, but I would also argue that he's probably not an expert if he's billions of dollars in debt. He's, he's, you know, got the tricks of his trade, but that's what has worked for him. Sometimes it's harder to teach stuff than it is to do stuff, and I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you need to do this to make money, because I don't know what works for me, but he knows what works for him. Again, that doesn't mean that that is going to work for you or for me or for anybody else, and he has said as much in a roundabout way in the book.
Speaker 4:If you don't have any, you know, ability to do real estate or stocks or whatever you have to and this is one thing that I did agree with with this chapter is you have to be able to pick your your moments where your genius comes through, your financial genius or whatever the fuck you want to call it. There are going to be things that you are good at and you have to capitalize on that, but there's going to be things that you just don't understand. No matter how much you try, you're not going to comprehend it. It's not going to sink in and that's OK. You have to acknowledge that. You have to be able to step aside from that. But that's, that's just life in general. You have to be able to understand where your limitations are and work within where they they. You work the work within where you excel. I don't know. But yeah, the main question about him saying he agrees with me, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if he would. Again, I don't know if he would ever come here. He seems largely motivated about doing things that only make him money and, you know, doing a space like this is going to be beneficial to him to any degree. It's beneficial to us to have the discussion, because then we can learn from it and grow from it. I don't know. It just doesn't feel like it would be his, his cup of tea. I don't know.
Speaker 4:I never thought I'd be up here speaking and doing these sort of things. Personally, this is never my forte. I've never been the type of person to do this sort of stuff. But here we are. I've kind of grown into this role and I don't dislike it. But it's not where I saw myself. I've always been an introvert. I've never really been the outgoing type personality. But as I've gotten older, I've grown and I've matured. I've also seen a lot of shit in the world I don't agree with and I'm starting to have a bigger voice up on that stuff and starting to speak my mind a bit more. And I think we need that in society more these days now than ever, because there's a lot of shit that's going on in this world that if you don't speak up, it's just going to keep getting worse, and if you don't have a voice it's just going to get worse. So have these conversations, think critically, grow, learn. I don't know.
Speaker 3:I love it. I love everyone's thoughts, man. I love differing thoughts, I love questions. I love reading and questioning what I read and I love having people so open and honest about their thoughts after reading. And you know we have different takes. I love this.
Speaker 3:We all have different things going on, and not just with this book. You know, if I read this book again in five years, I might have a much different experience reading it. And, like with you know, fictional novels I've had, I've had a different experience reading something and it might not even be. You know, I remember one book I was reading. I can't remember what it was. I was knocking doors, I was down in Texas, the heat was really getting to me. I had to sit in the park under a tree, in the park on a bench and just read for a minute and a really great contact came from that like moment. And I don't know.
Speaker 3:I really think that you know you might have just a shit book that you might not even like, but for whatever reason, you were taught something. You took something away from that moment. Like reading, I really think provides opportunities for stuff like that and then coupling it with a conversation or a study partner or a book club. This is so badass and I can't agree with you more, sparky, about doing a critical thinking book of some kind. That's you're really selling me on that more and more.
Speaker 3:I've got to start looking around and maybe everyone keep that in mind, because we hear that the next space on Monday is going to be the last space for this book. There's just a final thoughts, but there's a chapter and then a final thought, so I think we just wrap them up and so we got to start thinking about the next book and I'm really excited about something along critical thinking. That's really exciting to me. But I think we should start opening up that discussion and you know, asking Sparky what he thought a discussion with Robert and him would go like. I would love to hear that and I think it would be a really really great space that people could take a lot away from someone coming at him with really really good questions. Daph Ryan, what do you think a meetup with you guys and Robert would be? If you could sit down and ask him some questions, talk to him. What do you think you guys would ask him?
Speaker 6:Probably get a couple of strategies on longevity for quick returns, because quick returns only last for so long. So, especially with business, that would be the one thing I would probably have to find out. Who, on a personal note, asked how many times he's failed. I want to just understand how many times he's failed to get to this point, that is, that, other than what is, like you know, publicly out there right now, just in his mind, like his heart, like how many times he failed to get to that point of feeling that success that he speaks about. So then, that would be the kind of questions I would definitely hit him on on a personal level.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. I love that. Good questions. How about you, Daph?
Speaker 7:I would probably feel intimidated by him, and I don't even know if I'd even ask anything.
Speaker 3:Hey, that's okay. That's okay. I think it's fun to have a little intimidation with certain topics. I would definitely just be like straight up, rob, I don't know shit about this. Teach, teach me like I'm five. I would love to see his approach on that too.
Speaker 7:Well, that's what he tends to do Exactly. I've seen. I've seen him, you know, on tiktok a lot and on other stuff, and anytime he's being interviewed by someone and I don't know who the someone is he always talks to them as if they're an idiot and that's why I would say that, you know, it feels but it's also because they're asking questions that it's like they didn't even like, read the book or in under understand anything. Or he'll ask them a look them, a question and then they'll I mean, they'll completely say the wrong thing because it doesn't follow like his, his philosophies, and then he's almost like you know, like you invited me to this interview. Why, why am I here if you don't, you know, understand how I work? In a way you know. So I mean, it's got again. I'm going to go back to.
Speaker 7:Whenever I read any of this stuff, I feel like I'm being told what to do as if I am a child. He is the father of a very you know, this is how it is cut dry. You know, abide by the, this sort of thing, and that's why it would be so intimidating by at least you know, we've read it and we would have an understanding, whereas I mean some of those people. Man, he's brutal sometimes watching him. This man, you gotta go watch it if you guys haven't seen it. It's just, it's very intimidating.
Speaker 3:Would you say that you like his drive and you know he's got some good tips and tricks, but you're you're aware that he might not be perfect and you would like dive into more research after he gave you tips and tricks.
Speaker 7:Yeah, for sure, but I don't know if I would even have the balls to ask him anything. I had him here, like right now, or something. I just be like, write your book, that was good.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe you know, maybe the real Kiyosaki will join us for our finale space next Monday. Come on, robert, rob Robbie Bob I wonder if he goes by Bob to anybody. I always thought that was, that was the best shortening of a name Robert to Bob.
Speaker 7:He's probably one of those guys where you gotta pay him like 50 K to talk or something you know, they're out there.
Speaker 3:Well, we've got the final chapter, which is still want more. Here are some to do's and I have read it. Be prepared for a little upsell. But you know I respect it. I respect the hustle. The guy's got a good little system here and I could see how people could really become like rich dad, poor dad, maxis right, and I'm sure he's got seminars and systems where it's like man. I have based my riches off this guy and his systems and his motivation and inspiration. But you've always got to realize there's probably got to be a few people out there that might curse his name, shake their hand and fist at the heavens saying Robert's advice put me in a lot of debt because I pulled the trigger and the real estate market went down and then my wife lost her job and then I had to take my father-in-law in because he got sick, and you know that there's got to be some tragedies as well.
Speaker 3:So I really think it's a bright idea, especially with finances, to, yeah, question it. Read a little bit more, take someone's advice, see what else someone else on the opposite spectrum has to say. Find a poor dad out there that is loaded and got loaded just off of poor dad ways. You know, and I've got plenty of those people too that that might just go through this book and be like, yeah, I like that, but no, I do differ on that and this is good. I differ on that, you know, and I think it's really fun to have this setting where we get just a glimpse of that of friends that can just even differ on opinions on this stuff, and I think it's really important to hear different opinions out so important, and I really really think we do it a pretty great job We've got. You know, it's suck if we all have the same thoughts on these books and even with the fiction stuff, it's really fun just to have different ideas and thoughts and who is gravitating towards what words and what concepts and who gets distracted by what, and I'll always be that guy that's distracted by stuff usually, but I really love this. Thank you guys, and I wanted to let you know, other than the Monday space, we also have a space tomorrow. I'm really excited about 4pm Eastern Standard Time. Did I put it up top? Yes, that big muscley man is my brother in law. He's my little brother, you guys, and he's a beast and he is a really successful businessman, along with a coach and an athlete himself. He grew up playing hockey, got to like pro level hockey as a high schooler and just went the route of coaching and he's done incredibly well. But I'm really excited to dive into just the motivation and inspiration stuff, like I do, and it's my brother in law, so I'll probably throw out a few. I love you bros and I'll try to keep that to the minimum, but I really love to hear people's stories as much as I know about them. If I've got questions, I'm going to spring on him and get to know him and hopefully have a few laughs and a few inspirational moments. I'd really love for you guys to join. That's 4pm Eastern Standard Time tomorrow. It'll be about an hour long space with him and come with some questions. Whatever it might be, he's a coach, really good one.
Speaker 3:I go to his gym. On the wall are the photos of competitors at bodybuilding shows and as much as my wife and I talk about it a lot, just the unhealthy side of a lot of what those athletes do. But just like MMA, which has incredibly unhealthy weight cutting practices and it's almost controversial, it's like there's a lot of inspiration in athletes, I find at least, and their dedication, their practice, their mental fortitude, just all of it. And Eric has some kids, just little ones. We went and watched both of them play ice hockey and basketball on the same day and they had some Jiu Jitsu stuff later in the day. Just active little sports family. And so I'm really excited.
Speaker 3:Come with some questions. Whether it's you know what should my water intake be, or I'm looking to lose a few pounds, or hey, I you know he deals with not just pro athletes competing, doing bodybuilding stuff, but athletes of all types and normal people like me also go to his gym and I'm not intimidated. And he's got a really well balanced approach to science. He really tries to come from a scientific angle with it all. And he went to school, and I love for you guys to have questions ready and hopefully we can get to some of them. I won't try to ramble too much with them. It should be really great though. So I'd love for you guys to show up and, towards the end, if I can, bring some people up on stage to ask questions, but if not, just drop, you know, some questions in the comments during the space, but that one I'm really looking forward to.
Speaker 3:I haven't done a non book club space in a minute, and he's he's obviously I'm biased, he's my little bro, but man, you'll, you'll hear him. He's got that deep voice and it's like yes, yeah, I will do what you're telling me to do If I can be as strong as you. He's so strong. So I'm really excited to get some of my questions answered. I have my health and fitness goals and that's so important in our community. So, just like we're flexing our mental muscles tonight, I really love the actual physical activity of working out. There's so many hobbies. You can stay active and healthy with your whole life, and it's fun to see Eric coach people of all ages, so he's got a really good approach.
Speaker 3:So there you go, big, long sales pitch. Maybe I'll clip that and send him that tonight to give him a little rundown on hey, what, what's what we're going to expect tomorrow, because he's new to Twitter. I mean, he's had an account, but he's like Twitter space, what do you? What do I do? He's he's new to Twitter, so let's give him a warm welcome to a space and I'm really excited. So there you go. Long pitch for our space tomorrow. I do have a wheel here of names.
Speaker 3:As you guys know, we have a little giveaway for our VIP listeners at the end of our spaces. I'll run one of those tomorrow as well. I've got a $50 giveaway for that space tomorrow, so show up with some money. But let's get this wheel going tonight. And I appreciate all the loyal VIP listeners coming back. I know a lot of you even wake up at crazy hours to get on this space. So thanks and again, big reminder to a few of you in the in the crowd. I know you've been just consistent lately and you've got to be approaching 10 spaces. You've got to be so close. So hit me up in a DM or a ticket in the discord. Let's get you your VIP listener NFT, if you feel like you've. You've gotten close to those 10 spaces. We'll check out your stats. All right, my friends, who's got a number for us tonight? Between one and 60.
Speaker 6:42.
Speaker 4:Fuck off, I was literally about to say 42.
Speaker 6:Literally.
Speaker 4:I was unmuting to say 42.
Speaker 3:That's fucking weird, Isn't that the number? Like the? What's the answer to the universe? It's like 42. Is that the wrong number?
Speaker 6:I think it is.
Speaker 3:I think it's 42.
Speaker 4:It's from some movie like uh 42.
Speaker 3:We'll see who the universe is picking tonight. Oh boy, it's going to be a slow roll. It is looking pretty close, Sparky's approaching, but the slow roll always throws me off. It's going to be oh, I think Sparky are too far away now. I don't think it'll make it to you. Dap is going to be the recipient of the universe uh, number 42. You guys being in sync, Congratulations. Uh, that's funny.
Speaker 3:Well, my friends, I've had a wonderful night. My elbows are sore. Oh, I took too many arm bars and didn't tap early enough. You guys, don't let your ego get in the way of your health. Damn it. Oh, my elbows are sore because you don't want to tap out. You want to fight them a little bit, and you, you got to tap out. You guys, If you hold onto the rope, sometimes it'll. It'll burn you. It's just easier to let go. I'm getting old and cocky and I got to, I got to realize I'm dealing with a. I got like a sore toe and both feet a pulled groin. Uh, I'm getting old, it's official, you guys. And each, each morning, I'm finding more gray hair in my, in my head. So that's my reminder that, um, we, if, if we stay healthy and active. Keep our minds alive. We can age more gracefully, because I'm definitely starting to feel the reality of it. Uh much love you guys. Sparky, Do you have a song to to uh, end us, end the night for us? Yep, I love it. Thank you, Good sir.
Speaker 1:And he drank down my last swallow. Then he bombed a cigarette and asked me for a light. And the night got definitely quiet and his face lost all expression. Said if you're going to play the game boy, you got to learn to play it right. You got to know when to hold up, know when to fold up, know when to walk away, know when to run. You never count your money when you're sitting at the table. There'll be time and love for counting when the deal is done.
Speaker 1:Every gambler knows that the secret to surviving is knowing what to throw away, knowing what to keep cause. Every hand's a winner and every hand's a loser, and the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep. And when he finished speaking he turned back toward the window, crushed out a cigarette, faded off to sleep and somewhere in the darkness, the gambler, he broke even. But in his final words I found an ace that I could keep.
Speaker 1:You got to know when to hold up, know when to fold up, know when to walk away, know when to run. You never count your money when you're sitting at the table. There'll be time and love for counting when the deal is done. You got to know when to hold up, know when to fold up, know when to walk away, know when to run. You never count your money when you're sitting at the table. There'll be time and love for counting when the deal is done. You got to know when to hold up, know when to fold up, know when to walk away, know when to run. You never count your money when you're sitting at the table. There'll be time and love for counting when the deal is done.
Speaker 4:I don't know if that's classified as country or not. I'm not a big country fan. It's obviously a song that I've heard before. I've chose it because we're talking a lot about risking our money on things that we may not have the money to risk on. You're gambling.
Speaker 4:I've been talking a lot about critical thinking. I think that part of critical thinking is knowing when to not do a deal or knowing when to do a deal, learning the ins and outs of things so that you can make those decisions. I feel like this song was a very poignant song to summarize what I've been trying to say this whole time of you need to educate yourself and get yourself to a point where you do know when to hold them and you know when to fold them and you know when to walk away, because if you don't have those instincts and you don't learn that, you can definitely get wrecked and you can have a lot of bigger problems to deal with. I just thought that it was a good song that fit with a lot of what I was saying tonight. I know the space isn't about me, but I am the one choosing the music, so it fit. Hopefully everybody enjoyed this space tonight. Thanks for coming out to Bamboo Book Time. This was chapter eight, and everybody have a good night.
Speaker 3:That was awesome. You got no one to tap out, get your elbow wrecked. Oh, that was amazing. Good shit, sparky. Thank you, my friend, I guess have a great night.