Ever wondered how the lessons of "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" might intertwine with your career choices and money management skills? Join me as I delve into the nuances of financial literacy, from the simplicity of counting coins to the broader philosophies that can shape your path to wealth. With tales from my own career, I'll guide you through the labyrinth of being a generalist versus a specialist, and how each job—from Mormon missionary work to NFT sales—has offered unique insights into personal and professional growth.
This week's discussion brings to light the pressures young people face when choosing a career path and the invaluable lessons learned through diverse work experiences. I'll share the challenges and victories from my eclectic job history, underscoring the importance of craftsmanship, the complexities of Canada's real estate market, and the art of mastering one's field. As we talk, prepare to be inspired by stories of adaptability in dynamic industries and the profound impact of mentoring and generosity on both business and family life.
Wrapping up the conversation, we contemplate the global context of work culture and the varying perspectives it offers. From the continuous learning curve for specialists to the broadening horizons of generalists, we examine the consequences of evolving industries on skilled tradespeople. And for those who favor a good debate, we'll consider the argument that wealth isn't solely the product of entrepreneurship but also the dedication to climbing the professional ladder. So, whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur, a passionate specialist, or simply curious about the intersection of career development and money management, tune in for an episode that promises to enrich your understanding and maybe even guide your next big move.
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Ever wondered how the lessons of "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" might intertwine with your career choices and money management skills? Join me as I delve into the nuances of financial literacy, from the simplicity of counting coins to the broader philosophies that can shape your path to wealth. With tales from my own career, I'll guide you through the labyrinth of being a generalist versus a specialist, and how each job—from Mormon missionary work to NFT sales—has offered unique insights into personal and professional growth.
This week's discussion brings to light the pressures young people face when choosing a career path and the invaluable lessons learned through diverse work experiences. I'll share the challenges and victories from my eclectic job history, underscoring the importance of craftsmanship, the complexities of Canada's real estate market, and the art of mastering one's field. As we talk, prepare to be inspired by stories of adaptability in dynamic industries and the profound impact of mentoring and generosity on both business and family life.
Wrapping up the conversation, we contemplate the global context of work culture and the varying perspectives it offers. From the continuous learning curve for specialists to the broadening horizons of generalists, we examine the consequences of evolving industries on skilled tradespeople. And for those who favor a good debate, we'll consider the argument that wealth isn't solely the product of entrepreneurship but also the dedication to climbing the professional ladder. So, whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur, a passionate specialist, or simply curious about the intersection of career development and money management, tune in for an episode that promises to enrich your understanding and maybe even guide your next big move.
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Speaker 3:all right, welcome to bamboo book time. Rich dad, poor dad, chapter seven. Oh, I'm glad you could hear me laughing. The background on that one was just we keep talking about how we're dads and we have little kids and, you know, listening to kids songs and things over the years, I don't know. I just felt like it was appropriate because we're learning to count our money essentially.
Speaker 5:So welcome, here we go that was great, that was good. And I immediately thought wait a minute. Do do Canadians have nickels and dimes and quarters also? What do you guys call them? That also?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, yeah, they're not the same. They're not the same value, because the US dollars are completely different values than the Canadian dollar when they're on par. It could have been, but great.
Speaker 5:The funniest was that like I had a little bit of hip hop going and it went straight into that. It was a perfect balance. I loved it. Yes, sir, we are talking about money again this chapter. Work to learn, don't work for money. I've got a few thoughts. I was kind of all over the place in my head on this one. I really enjoyed reading through this chapter and I really loved.
Speaker 5:I guess I got kind of distracted with some of the stuff in this chapter because he was like give, give, give and I'm like, yes, I love that, I love that advice. I know there's some like advantages as well to giving and tax advantages as well. He didn't even touch on any of that, which I really liked that he was like he just kept it pretty simple along those lines like you'll give and you'll receive, and in a sense it was kind of, I guess, the first time that I felt like this book kind of touched on just like a humanity principle. That was kind of cool for me. I thought of a lot of my past jobs and sales jobs. Oh my gosh, I really really appreciate some of the advice he gives. I think he's a pretty balanced guy in the end and I like that, this chapter he did kind of spell that out, or maybe it was last chat, I think it was this chapter like he basically says you know, I'm kind of a perfect mix, or he wants to be a perfect mix of rich dad and poor dad in certain aspects and he does worry about the constant and ever widening divide between the rich and the poor and he is concerned. I like I liked a lot of this chapter and I do agree with some of this chapter where he's like go out and get a sales job, just do it for experience. I really think that's good advice and I guess I'm biased because a lot of my history it goes along with this and the whole time when you're kind of it, I guess just from my, from my personal story, I was bouncing from thing to thing and in retrospect I can be like oh yeah, I planned it, I wanted to get a bunch of experience in a bunch of different things and you know. But I was just a kid trying to find my passion and trying to make it and I had all these goals and I get tired of something and I move on to the next. But really in retrospect I can look back and I can say, man, I played it pretty well in terms of becoming a jack of all trades and a master of none. Now I would love to become a specialist. I'd love that he talks about that the specialists versus the, the guys like me that it just kind of get a little bit good at a lot of stuff and it can be kind of a double-edged sword. Whichever, whichever side of the fence you're on and I really loved it here.
Speaker 5:Maybe personal stories from you guys, what you guys think. I mean this, this chapter really opens up, I think, for some fun personal stories. I've done everything, you guys. I was a Mormon missionary. I've sold paint jobs, I've sold security systems, I've sold NFTs, I've sold compliance. I've done everything from the video guy to the runaround guy, to the business owner, to the partner just investing. I've tried. You know I can't even say that like I've done everything on purpose. I've. I've just had my hands in a lot and it does bring you out on the other end with some skills that you can kind of approach different opportunities and be like here's where I can help out and you have a whole assortment of things.
Speaker 5:But, man, I really really think there are some advantages to being a specialist and I think you can still know a lot of stuff about a lot of things and still specialize in things. And so I I know you know I'm not shooting to be a doctor or or an attorney I don't need the education specifically to go after being an orthopedic surgeon for for pediatrics. You know, I I think there's real, real roadmaps for real specific game plans that people have. But you know, I I don't like just learning a little, I like to master stuff, I like to get pretty damn good at things and otherwise I feel like I'm just kind of wasting my time. So I guess that would be my only thing that I kind of. I don't really even disagree.
Speaker 5:He's just saying like, learn a lot about a lot of stuff and become really not a specialist, but you know, become good at a bunch of stuff and know, know a little bit about a lot, and I don't know, I guess I just want to ramp it up a little bit and it's like know a lot about a lot, that's my goal. I'd like to become better at not just scratching the surface. I think I've become too complacent with that, where I just scratched the surface and then I kind of look for a specialist to help me, and NFTs have kind of, I guess, stretched my comfort zone a little bit. Sparky knows this, dap knows this. Ryan you guys know I've gone from no smart contracts and then you know specialists out there make it easy for a guy like me to to do stuff. They've made better tools and they've made it where I can feel like, oh, I can do this on my own.
Speaker 5:So I think it takes a you know a village to raise, to raise a child. It takes the ever-growing space to raise yourself and to improve within it and have better tools at your disposal. I mean, there's there's a lot of moving parts where you just think about specialization versus the Jack of all trades stuff. So I, I sure, am on the side of Jack of all trades, but master of none. I would love to think that I can specialize in some stuff. I can't say that though. You know I I don't, I almost don't want to. That's kind of my game plan as a business person is realizing what I actually like to do a day-to-day and I don't want to trap myself in a specialized position where I do see what he's saying. You can get real caught up real quick in the rat race with a specialization because people want to hire you and keep you hired and keep you there. So I know that from the perspective of an employer as well. On a day-to-day I'm constantly looking at numbers and balancing and who you know working with other people who are looking at those, and specialists. You don't want them to go anywhere. It's really, it really is kind of true what he's saying about the rat race, and you can get quite stuck if you kind of commit to anything, and so a lot of good thoughts.
Speaker 5:I had a lot of fun memories pop up in my head of all the crazy ventures I've had and all the all the crazy jobs and sales jobs and I haven't done just sales jobs and I like how he touched on that. You know, become a busboy. I learned a lot of things as a busboy. When I was 14. I learned a lot about what he was saying. Just as a busboy, I've learned the art of, you know, getting rejected and rolling with it. I looked like I was about nine years old and every day at work I just got made fun of and I just loved the money though, and I put up with it and I learned real quick like who, who cares? They were always making. I mean, these people came into this fancy Italian restaurant and they're just like oh so I guess Idaho doesn't have child labor laws.
Speaker 5:I was like god damn it, you asshole. But I was like laughing with them and learn to get the tip out of them. You know what I mean, and there was a lot of really, I guess, salesy type tips and tricks that I learned even as a busboy and I worked in a skate shop. You know everything from learning how to grip a skate deck to choose in the right trucks for the right type of skater, and then as well, I learned how to upsell the crap out of people, and I really like the idea of a lot of what he's saying. But I can also see where some of you might maybe disagree or see a lot of advantages and specialization. So there's my long rant. To start off the space I would love to real quick. I know I know I'm talking a lot, but let's do these questions real quick and then I'll turn the time over.
Speaker 5:Number one do you know extremely talented people who make very little money? What could they be doing differently? Number two how have you sought additional skills beyond your specialty? What was the result? Number three was there a time you stayed in a secure job rather than strike out into a new position that might have gained you more in the long run. What was the basis of your decision?
Speaker 5:Number four if someone were to ask you advice on what the most important skills are for them to learn in their working life, what would you tell them? Number five what role does giving play in your life? Do you see it as an important part of your success? Number six what are your different ways? You could give that you aren't currently, and I liked that. Obviously I talked about that, the giving. I could go through and answer and give some thoughts on these, but I've kind of laid out my, my big heavy thoughts that I thought about and I'd love to hear yours. Let's, let's. Oh, man, I haven't made anyone a co-host. Let's go to Sparky first. I've left you for the, the latter comments and the other spaces. I feel would you like to kick off the space tonight, sparky.
Speaker 3:I would like to start by saying I fucked up and I read chapter seven instead of chapter six. So I'm ahead but also behind, although I kind of understand the gist of this chapter and understand what he's trying to say as I'm skimming through it. I I agree, but I disagree to some respects of the the jack-of-all-trades, master of none mentality. So the full quote is a jack-of-all trades is but a master of none, but is sometimes better than a master of one. So there are times where being a jack-of-all-trades can definitely be to your benefit and there are times in our lives where you go through many different things, you, you. I mean from my experience, my work experience.
Speaker 3:I graduated high school. I didn't have a clue what I wanted to do and I fit like 15 years of work experience into like three and I tried every job I could think of. I did renovations, I did irrigation, I worked in a distribution center driving a forklift, I did some chef work, I did IT, I did graphic design, like I tried to do as much different things as I could figure out and I didn't have a clue where I wanted to fit in. I didn't have a clue what I wanted to do for my career and I think that's the best method for a lot of kids. I don't think us graduating high school, especially like when you're 17, not even 18 yet in, at least in Canada, or you're just turning 18 and you're graduating high school and you're being told you have to go into college and university, knowing what you want to do for the rest of your life, that's, that's a heavy burden for kids like you're. You're a kid. It was me.
Speaker 5:I'm definitely relating to what you're saying. That this is, this is me. I didn't even finish college. I was so confused. Even up until that, I have like 12 credits left. That was me.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, I'm really relating to what you're saying and I think that that there are certain instances where being a specialist can be beneficial. We wouldn't have, like you said, orthopedic surgeons, neurosurgeons, people in that regard, who are higher educated and no stuff but the education that some of these people have to like I know, I know people again, I don't talk about the industry that I used to be for my career, but I know people I went to school with that. They were very textbook smart and they could pass the exams, but when it came to the reality of the job and and what we had to do, there was a lot more to it than just knowing what the textbooks would tell you. And it often becomes a bit of a flaw that you are overly educated but you can't actually perform in the field that you've been educated in and like, even even if the you know the BA's and all that shit that's out there, the generic degrees that you can get and I say generic because they're they're fucking generic as hell. You know there's people out there who have a master's degree or have a business degree or have whatever, and they're working at McDonald's or they're working at, like, walmart because they can't get a job, and I think the, the industries that are out there are so saturated, just in general. But also they expect experience from nothing like an entry-level position is you need five years experience. Well, who the fuck has that? Nobody has that. That's ridiculous. That's the dumbest thing out there.
Speaker 3:But I also go to the specialist side of things with like a blacksmith. Or we look at Japanese swords, sword makers. We look at Damascus. I don't know if anybody knows the history of Damascus steel, but we have a problem in in society not society, but like in bladesmithing and that sort of stuff where they call pattern steel Damascus steel, which isn't true. It's just pattern steel.
Speaker 3:True, damascus steel was a specific way that in Damascus they forged the, the metal that it gave it these crazy properties and it made it some of the strongest metals known to man and it had a pattern to it. But the pattern wasn't uniform. It was. It looked different and it was just from all the different foldings and things they did, but it was just how they made the steel, that it had this pattern to it. So nowadays we just we dumbly call pattern steel Damascus steel, because we don't know how to recreate that, because all the specialists that did that stuff are gone and I think we have like two or three Japanese swordsmiths in the world that can still make katanas and swords like they did in ancient Japan.
Speaker 5:But once they're gone, that that skill, that trade is just vanished, we won't have the ability to think about languages like lost languages, because they yeah spoken or through like I know of some languages that were or like their history was written in in carpets and and rugs and stuff like that. Oh, that's a cool. That whole sword topic got my mind real and that's awesome good stuff.
Speaker 3:Keep going, sorry so yeah, so there's, there's definitely some instances to have masters and and specialists, but it doesn't necessarily mean you have to be educated, and I think that we all strive at some point in our life to be a master of something, whether it is a job that you can make money from or not. I think we all have that innate thing deep inside us that wants us to be a master of something. So I, like I said, I kind of agree with the work to learn mentality, because everything that we do in life is a learning experience. Even just having these, these spaces in these conversations is a learning experience. Talking with each other, having these conversations, picking things apart, it's all. It's all a learning experience and you don't have to be doing it to try and make money from it. It's. It's literally we're here to have conversations and and grow as people, but there's there's something to be said to to doing a job and like not necessarily being a part of the rat race, but but definitely being a part of the working force to make money, to make a living, like, again, I read the wrong, the wrong chapter, so some of the stuff that I was I had is talking points is related to that, but I can somewhat translate some of it to this, in that, like we have a real estate market right now in Canada that is at its highest, like it hasn't come down and it's just stupid expensive.
Speaker 3:The average house and I'm gonna talk about this next week, obviously two more but the average house in Canada is like over 500 grand. And how are you gonna make money to like pay for that house? And we're talking like like the average house, that's, that's the average house. That's not like there's no cheap houses, right, there's no way to buy in Under 500 grand right now. It's ridiculous. Even the house that we bought Five, six years ago, five and a half years ago, we bought it for like 360 around there 360 and change, and our house is currently around 650 or more. So like there's there's no real entry point. So if you're not working for money and doing a job that is Providing for your family and you're just, you know, trying to learn, you're, you're kind of shooting yourselves in the foot. You're setting yourself up for a lot, of, a lot of problems if things don't go the way that they need to go. We have a current society where your average income in in Canada, and at least here, is about 50 grand. So combined household let's say 100 grand and that's not even enough to live off of nowadays, like a lot of people still living at home with their parents.
Speaker 3:So in that sense there is something to be said about being a specialist, because you would probably wind up making a lot more money in that essence and being able to charge more for things. I mean, I'll give a good example of a specialist that we have in our community here of DAP, who he specializes in computer repairs and he does Wonderful stuff for his community and he can charge basically what he wants Because there's very few shops in town and he has a reputation. Another specialist in our community would be Jacqueline Not to kind of call people out, but I mean she's an engineer. That's the fucking great field to be in and it pays a pretty penny to be in it and to get even more specialized in that field. You just keep building yourself up and up to the point where you know you are the one calling the shots on things and People look to you for things. So I think there's something to be said For being a specialist to some degree, but that doesn't mean that over your lifespan. You haven't done the whole work to learn thing. It's just at a point you started to specialize in things. But that doesn't also mean that you won't, some point in your life, deviate from that specialization doesn't mean you're gonna lose that specialization, but you may change your your path.
Speaker 3:I've done something for 13 years. I've quote specialized in this for 13 years. I I can't fucking stand it anymore. I hate what I do because it's just, there's just no, there's just no satisfaction anymore. There's no Pleasantry in it, it's, it's all. Just it seems to be. There's so much bureaucracy, there's so much bullshit behind it and it just has become a point in my life that I'm I'm not happy with what I do and I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't chastise anyone for having that moment in their their life where they look at what they do and say this is not Good for me, it's, it's definitely causing me more grief and then Benefit and I mean, like for me, one of the things that that my biggest problem was was finances with this. It wasn't paying what it should be paying. It wasn't. I haven't. After 13 years I haven't gotten to a point with it where it's it's, you know, it's my career ending career like it's, it's. I can't retire off this. I have no savings built up and Most people after 13 years have put a pretty big nest egg away. They've they've built up a pretty big life with something like that and I've got nothing to show for it and it's just been digging a hole and digging a hole. You know, I have to pay every year To to keep my license and paying to keep my license and what I do is over a thousand dollars. So, like it's, it's just a money hole more than it is a benefit at this point and it just, you know, I'm, I'm done with it, I'm the. The exhaustion from it is In my anyways.
Speaker 3:My point is that I don't, I don't, I don't hate on anyone who has that same epiphany or a same Point in their, their life where they're like this is just not going well for me. Yeah, that's that's again, not to say that if you're looking at gift horse in the mouth and you don't really have to do a lot of work in your specialization and you're like I'm done with this, I don't want to do anymore, I mean, that's just, that's just silly to me if you especially if it's one thing that you're like so specialized that people are. You know you, you can make your own hours and you could do whatever. I think I think you have to pick and choose your battles to some degree. But if you can retire and say that you've lived a full life in that career or whatever, I think specialization is is is a good thing to some degree. I Don't know, I don't know, I feel like I'm hyper focused on the specialization aspect, but I feel like what I've read and what you've kind of talked about, it just kind of, yeah, I don't know, I Don't, I don't necessarily agree, but I don't necessarily disagree. I think there's there's avenues for both argument.
Speaker 3:And you you look at, like the, the actors of the world who have honed their craft for years, who you know maybe they didn't even go to fucking college for this or university or whatever and there there's some of the best actors out there. Or you look at some of the the best Real estate people out there. I mean, they've they've been doing it for decades and they know what they're talking about. So I don't know, it feels like you like to chastise someone who specializes in something is a bit Kind of ask backwards you and and to say to people you shouldn't be working for money is also kind of Backwards. This under your e, because the like money at this point in life literally runs our lives and you, you cannot survive in this world without it. It's just it's, it's an unfortunate side effect of it. It's, it's. It is what it is like With people who are homeless, who are literally dying on the streets from exposure because they're broken, they have no money and like, nobody wants to put their family through that. Nobody wants to be in that situation. And you, you have to work to some degree for for money. Whether you want to or not, we have to work for money. So I don't know that I feel like this.
Speaker 3:There's, there's, like we said in the past, there's a lot of outdated stuff with this book. It doesn't quite fit the entire mold and it also doesn't quite fit for the entirety of the world. I mean there's there's certain countries out there that I mean they have like three-hour lunches, they have four-day work weeks. They're not working for money, they're, they're working. I mean they're working to pay their bills, but they're not. They don't have like career, career workforces in there. They're working because the job essentially needs to be done and they're they're they're paying their bills and they're doing what needs to be done.
Speaker 3:Canada, and more so America, like Working three jobs if you were to go to Italy, or if you were to go to Germany or Switzerland or Finland. Like, people don't work three jobs there. It's a completely different lifestyle over there and it just kind of Like reading a book like this. It's, I feel, like you had he lived in an area like that, he wouldn't be saying the same stuff like it's. It's just, Again, it's life experiences.
Speaker 3:It goes down to the, the work to learn. It's not just work to learn, it's live to learn and the stuff that you accumulate in your lifespan definitely feeds your Take on things. And I feel like this book is largely fed by, you know, the American lifestyle because, again, you had he lived in a different area, even with the same information being taught to him, probably wouldn't have the same outlook because his experiences would be different. So it's a very difficult book to have a global community read through and go oh yeah, this makes perfect sense, because, again, it doesn't. It doesn't make sense for everybody in every country. I don't know, maybe I'm just rambling about bullshit at this point, but Obviously I didn't read the whole chapter.
Speaker 5:I love the questions and it sounds like you read the chapter. So, however you browse through it, I think you picked up quite well on on the content of the chapter and great questions. I love all. I love all your thoughts and commentary and Really I think it is good to pick both parts aside and find the, the good and the and.
Speaker 5:The advantage is because, you know, looking at things from a Society aspect and a civilization aspect, it's like I really want bridge builder specialists out there. I I really, when I'm on the ski hill, I depend on the, the safety in my heart and mind that a specialist in Welding put each one of those chairs together carefully with the thought of my children and you know, I don't know. I I love the idea of specialists From. From a society aspect, you have something wrong with your, your health, you can find out exactly what it is and there's a specialist out there that that knows really up-to-date information and stays stays up-to-date on their, on their Licenses and everything. But man, you brought up a lot of really good points about just like career fatigue and things like that that you might not think about when getting into a specialty. It's like two years, four years, 12 years, 25. Can you really do the same thing for that long?
Speaker 3:So look, a lot of good questions you brought up the one thing that I also wanted to touch on was the, the whole, like filling your head with knowledge but not finishing the the knowledge essentially. So like there's certain avenues I think you said it more than he said it but you know, you, you learn something but you don't learn the full thing, you only learn half of it or whatever, and that's that's largely an ADHD thing that a lot of people who are classified as quote neurodivergent or have ADHD do. But there's certain avenues that if you were to half learn something and not Fully learn the complete intricacies of it, you can fuck up huge and like. A real good case in point is if you, if you were to get into reloading Reloading being that you make your own ammunition Hunters do it, people go to shooting ranges do it. You, you, you know you go to the range, you fire around, you have the leftover casing. Afterwards you bring the casings home, you clean the casings out, you resize the casings, you, you put new primers in like there's a whole process to doing it and if you don't have every minute detail down properly, you could cause your gun to explode or cause what's called a squib load, which then the bullet gets caught in the barrel and then that could again cause the gun to explode.
Speaker 3:So there's there's instances like something like that, where if you're not Going through the full details of learning every avenue of something, you can fuck up huge. Same thing with, like, the financial industry if you, if you don't learn Every aspect of trading stocks or even trading crypto or every aspect of that stuff, and you just half-ass it, you could lose your ass in that industry. Even if you're trying to do stuff as a hobby Snowboarding if you don't, you know, learn Every minute detail of how to ride that snow, that snowboard properly down the hill, you could break something so easily, because the smallest mistake in that instance could fuck you up. So there are certain things where you definitely need to learn every aspect of it. But, like cooking, for example, you don't need to learn every intricacy of every recipe that's out there to make good meals. Throwing shit together half the time is some of the best meals that you can make. So, yeah, you can still fuck up, but it's not gonna be life-threatening and you don't have to learn every aspect of you know cooking.
Speaker 3:Baking is a different story, because baking is literally measurements and if you you know, if you don't Measure things properly, you're gonna fuck up the bread or the cookies or the batter, whatever you're making. But, like throwing meals together, you could make a curry by throwing literally any kind of spices in a pot. I talked about it because I didn't make curry tonight. But I mean, you throw any kind of spices in a pot, that's a curry, because it's just a mixture of spices and If it tastes good, you're great. If it tastes like crap, you're not gonna make those mixes again.
Speaker 3:But that's. That's just part of the experience of Trying things out, even though you may not have learned every aspect of it. You don't know where those spices come from, you don't know the intricacies of it, but so there's instances where, like I said, you know if you don't learn every avenue of a specific subject matter that you're trying to Acclimate yourself to or or learn about, you could, you could have dire consequences. So I Think it's definitely worthwhile Making sure that the subject that you're trying to learn about, or Well, that you're getting into, is something that you you know have to make sure that you have every. I mean, you've it learned.
Speaker 5:Man, that's a good point. That's a really good point. Good thoughts, sparky and I. I love that you brought up Specific individuals. You brought up DAP. So DAP, that's a good segue to you and he makes a great point. Man, I, you do have specialties. I feel like you're a jack of all trades, though, too, and I have a feeling Jacqueline, even though she's got specialties, that she's, she's the same way. You guys have side projects and dabble in your own Entrepreneurial stuff. So I feel like this is gonna be fun to hear your thoughts on this one too.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So the jack of all trades thing, it can be some of the curse. I'm sure you know that you get to do one thing and then you'll go do something else and then you forgot about one thing. So it can lead to the you know Stuff not getting completely done. At least that's how it is for me. But yeah, like Sparky brought up, adhd sort of stuff probably have something like that. But I See there's a superpower to be able to just juggle and yeah, I do feel that I am a Jack of all trades and a master of none. But there are certain things that I've definitely gone into deeper, just out of necessity or out of what I was trying to learn in the beginning, because I was just about computers in the beginning and then, you know, it kind of Progressed into. You know well, how can I do that, you know. So that's where I am now.
Speaker 4:But my take on the chapter was the. The biggest take for me was how he talks about fear man. It really hits on that one because Especially like with sales and everything and I've even brought up in the past how I have like invoicing anxiety. It's like I care what people think about you know me billing them and stuff like that, and if it's too much or something, you know, so it's definitely. I used to have a digital Well, I used to have a digital newspaper that was local to here and I ended up Like not making any money off of it and it kind of, you know, put me in the hole a little bit, not nothing I could dig myself out of, but I Started. It was something that I it was one of, the Well. It's the only thing that I have ever like created that I actually resented and it sucks. And this chapter really brought out a lot of my Emotion and understanding as to what had happened, and it helped me realize that that's a huge weakness for me, that the fear of sales.
Speaker 4:So, and I mean what I essentially did was so I had a story time. I had a. I hired the editor from one of the local newspapers. She had just been fired unjustly and I saw that on a post about it on Facebook and I was like, hey, how about we just do our own Two? Like I don't know, I don't wanna think about things right now.
Speaker 4:So then a couple of weeks later, bam, we ended up doing it and made the website and everything had it going Started off with, she was cool with not being paid for so amount of time for us to get it started. Then she wanted to get paid, obviously. So then she started getting paid and then I wasn't able to keep up with still had it get fixed, my computer stuff, and then I had the storage units at the time too, and then this was the third thing on top of that and then I was like I wasn't able to keep up with all the stuff going on at the same time. So that's the jack of all trades thing getting me in trouble there for sure. So I was trying to tackle so much at one time but it could have definitely been successful because we drove it up to where we had one post one time I ended up crashing our website. We got so much traffic I mean we got like over a hundred thousand views that week, 10,000 plus views in a day, and it crashed the site. I had to get a complete new hosting account and everything to be able to handle the traffic.
Speaker 4:And well, I mean I just wasn't super confident. I mean I just wasn't super confident. I guess in it I thought it was gonna be a lot more passive, where I built the thing, I organized all of it and stuff, and then sales people that we would try and bring on that were so shoddy and everything. And it seems that, like in sales, there's always like anyone feels at certain point in their life that they could do sales, like it seems. And then I would have people try and do that and we were just selling ads on a website which is not that much that you could bring in and really.
Speaker 4:But I mean people loved it. They ended all up and I still have the website. I mean it's dormant. I still have the Facebook page which has like 70,000 likes on it, which is insane to me. So I mean it's just the nature of the beast of what type of thing it was for us to have that much visibility. So anytime we would post something, it would automatically put on all our social and then it'll allow people to click it to go to the site to get the traffic and then that's how the ads were seen. But I never really wanted to go out and sell. I was the only one that at any time we ever got any money coming in was because I went out and asked people stuff and I definitely have a fear of asking people for things, and when you were, reading this chapter and he was like advising that author to you know, get a sales job or take a training.
Speaker 5:Like, have you ever done anything like that?
Speaker 4:No, and then I mean I am, I'm good at selling, if it's something I believe in and unfortunately I agree with that. I have to say that I didn't believe in the. I didn't even believe in the thing that I built and it was mostly because I had so much other stuff going on at the same time. And it's still I don't know. It's like this compounded resentment of oh, I'm paying her and we're not getting any money coming in, like I felt like I don't know at the time, but I mean that was 2016. So I mean, it's been almost, you know, it's been like eight years. So I mean I in college, during undergrad, I had actually skipped out on doing my sales class. I took a second internship at the same year instead and I actually told the professor I was like listen, I can sell ICE to an Eskimo. I don't need this class. Can you please sign off on here? And I felt very confident in saying that to her.
Speaker 4:And the thing is, I mean like I could sell you phone screen protector, I could sell you IT services, I could sell you things on the things that I know the most about. I didn't know a damn thing about news I didn't know a damn thing about and I didn't know a damn thing about any of that kind of stuff. Like that's all stuff. That was like, hey, let's do this or whatever. And I mean I actually put the fear in the local papers. I really did. I actually had one of them that was wanting to buy us and I should have sold it. But you know, oh well, it's a pride thing, but yeah, I mean is what it is.
Speaker 4:And I actually brought it up to Jacqueline and she's probably, if she's still white, she'll put an emoji to this. But thought about starting it back up because the editor messaged me before Christmas and said something about she missed writing because she's getting up in her years and she's like probably close to retirement now. But I said, well, that's fine with me, you can just start posting and we'll just see what happens. Then I have you know that way I would do it again if I could do it in a way where I knew that I didn't have as much risk. Oh, there's the thumbs downs. Look at them. She has thumbs down in the hell out of it, yeah. But yeah, just so you know, jack, I would do it Great idea, you should do it.
Speaker 4:If it was a safer way of doing it, if I could minimize the risk somehow, because it was really good in the beginning and I was kind of proud of it in the beginning. But I mean it fizzled out fast and the editor she was just halting me all the time on stuff and you need to go do this and you can do that. And I mean I was cool with that her telling me what to do, because I didn't have any idea what I was doing. I just knew how to build a website. So, and that's what we did, I knew how to organize a business and build a website. And here we went and yeah, we definitely pissed a lot of people off because we were like the thing that just came out of nowhere, you know, fucking with a 100 year old publisher. So I mean it was cool, but I don't know, I definitely had to get out of it. But I mean I couldn't just keep like bleeding money. I even like sold my grandpa's truck when he passed away. I inherited his truck. I even sold it to like pay for her. So that's one of those things you know, risks and sacrifice. But yeah, ultimate bullet is down to. It is my fault. I couldn't, you know, sell or I didn't want to sell. If I say I couldn't sell, I mean that doesn't just mean that you know that's me not being able to too, it's also me not wanting to as well.
Speaker 4:Like and Confess is the same, but that was the big thing I got out of the chapter was fear, and I think I mean it kind of makes me want to just like go to a car dealership and be like, hey, let me sell cars for two months or something and just get it out of my system. And I know that you have to like deal with rejection and know how to deal with rejection, and you have to like not brush it off. I don't even go to like chamber meetings or anything like that and stuff, because I can't stand the thought of like getting in front of 200 people that I know are all probably more successful than I am and having to say stuff about anything. And I'm pretty sure my other two competitors in the same town are the same way, because, yeah, they hardly ever post anything on social media stuff, but at least I do post stuff.
Speaker 4:And you know I'll actually go on Facebook Live and things like that and make sure you know they see my face and stuff. But yeah, so that's enough about identifying my problem. Now I just need to look at the solution to that. So if nothing else from this book about the ways of tax evasion, legality type thing this biggest thing for me to take away is being able to face my business fears and for me to, you know, come over that. So this chapter, seriously like, did a lot for me and what problem I have.
Speaker 5:That's awesome. I love to hear that and I love your stories and I love all the different things you've been a part of. This chapter was really similar for me. I was glitching in my head in between person and employer. This was also giving me insight into management and managers and just departments and, like our compliance business, it's really easily you can divide it into two different personalities in that office, into sales and admin. The sales it's really really cool to really just think about man.
Speaker 5:Humans kind of do divide themselves and they come in and we've had different people where it's like man, you could kill it at sales but you could also do awesome at admin. And they both have different pay structures. One is heavily commission based and the other is like souped up with benefits and different people find different value in the different offerings. It's like, ooh, you're saying 25%. Ooh, and what kind of perks, what kind of bonuses if I hit different numbers? Ooh, okay, that insurance stuff you were telling me, can I just take the money instead, versus a single mom coming in and she just dropped off three kids and she just really depends on a solid paycheck with good benefits and she is terrified to talk to anyone about money. She just wants to grind and go home and know she has a job the next morning and it's been really good. As partners, I keep thinking of different ideas to bring to them. So tomorrow in our meetings I've got different ideas to approach the different departments and so I've really kind of been going back and forth with the different things I'm involved in and then obviously, I've got my own personal dilemma in my head. It's like man.
Speaker 5:After hearing Robert Kiyosaki said that he's kind of split down the middle, I'm really leaning towards that camp of just like I like both categories, I'll continue to go back to my dad. He was a poor dad mentality and he killed it and I'm so glad. I am really happy for the stable life that I lived and grew up with. I look at my life, my brothers, all of us entrepreneurs we provide crazy ups and downs for families. We do. It's a wild lifestyle and it's a risky lifestyle and it's full of I've got meetings tonight and starting at 6 am tomorrow and it's not always like that, but it's been like that for like the past three weeks and clean up time. You get your hands dirty and you get busy and I love the idea of not putting that on my kids and hopefully having a stable life where I get normal sleep schedules for their sake. You know what I mean Because I grew up with just stability and for me as a kid that was important. I had my own little dilemmas and adding any more fuel to that fire, I can't imagine what kind of little monster I would have been. I really liked that. He did say that he's like man. I like both camps.
Speaker 5:I've appreciated a lot about this chapter, making me think, with all the different hats and responsibilities that I kind of wear. Ryan, sorry to keep you quiet, I actually have specific questions for you. I thought about specialties. I know you're a jack of all trades, but I also know I remember when my main water line went out and yours went out like similar time, I had to hire specialists to come in, do some digging, get under concrete, do the whole thing. I just looked at what they were doing and I'm like I would not have known where to start. This was a case for someone above my knowledge. But then it feels like it was like the next day or a week, or it might have been a month, I don't know, but it was like really similar timing. You're like oh yeah, my main water line went out and, yeah, I've been spending a few hours but I almost haven't done. I was just blown away, bro. It's like through your different jobs you've picked up skill sets.
Speaker 5:My question because he talked about with specialties how, even with a specialty, you kind of need to keep up. I thought about literally just the main water line. They were sitting there telling me do you want this pipe or this pipe? I'm like shit, don't give me any decisions to make. What would you do? They're like well, this is the new stuff, it's a little more expensive and I'm just like I really like hearing what you would do. What would you put in your house? Just the constant technology changes and improvements in different things. That can probably make it hard for a specialist.
Speaker 5:I even think back to the painting days when I was running paint crews and it's like even that summer there were new upgrades to different paints that I had to keep on top of and it was like such a hassle. Yeah, it was cool new paint, it was something to do with. The primer was built in and Sherwin Williams was just all about the upsell to this stuff. I felt sold, but I was just like man that feels like my clients would get sold on that too. Maybe I should learn how to sell that.
Speaker 5:It was like a whole new sales process and it was exhausting. I tapped out of painting pretty quick because of that. It was like next year, what's the education going to be for this? To know my shit. It was really exhausting and there was not just brushes but paints and primers and all the different equipment and all the different products. My question to you is how is that in the field of specialties Is there maybe fatigue within an industry of just keeping up with the industry that maybe a specialist is in the same camp as a jack of all trades? Anyways, you do have to keep on top of a bunch of stuff. Are there any trades out there that once you learn it, you're good to go? Do you think that really every trade or any specialty you're going to have to keep up anyways? I know that's a loaded question and I would love to hear you say whatever you want about anything, but that's my loaded question for you, ryan.
Speaker 6:Yeah, definitely this is a good chapter. I was actually enjoying the audio book because I was able to go back and listen to the whole thing and got caught up and kind of like I went ahead. But to what we're discussing, with these opportunities and whatnot, and because of specialties and stuff, it does sometimes play a big key role because, like, especially in specific fields, I would have to say, just because of that little analogy you just gave us with knowing the confidence of what you're getting, is it going to be the right part or is this going to be the right nail, or is this the right shirok, whatever it may be, and those types of thoughts, if you break it down to business-wise, if you're never ran a business, you don't know some of those key things until you've gone through with either a few courses to kind of familiarize it, get to know what to do. And it doesn't mean that you've gone to, let's say, be a master business person, right, but you run your business and so you got some business knowledge. I want to really consider that a fake it until you make it, or just kind of like that in the person that just jack of all trades, because they did go out to make that effort and a lot of skill to me really evolves and manifest in a much healthier way when you physically get to learn and physically execute mistakes and longer your own development. I don't feel like in the chapter was talked about any of the failures that you have to do before you succeed in this point and I think that's definitely one of those takes that we got to always remember.
Speaker 6:If you don't know, go out and get that extra class. Or go sit on a town hall meeting and understand what they're trying to propose. And because you don't understand what political stuff is, you can listen in right Zoom meeting it. Or you don't understand what religion is, so go to your local church and go listen right and then take it from there and grow from that and to kind of just put it towards, like with some of the things that I would have to say personally with, I personally developed and moved past because I did get to that point where it was like to get my specialty contractor's license to the amount of money it would have to be like Sparky Touch Space on the contractor license renewals and this and that. So there was like ways of knowing how to operate a business and then be an independent labor for yourself, working for a homeowner building their home. So, knowing that some ways and shape forms, you can, a homeowner could potentially do the job 10 times cheaper by being the contractor, because you have that ability, being your own general contractor as a homeowner and then subbing out the jobs that you're not qualified to do or know how to do, and then get inspection done. Because, like you, as a homeowner can also do portion of the work and, as long as you proceed with the work, can be inspected as if you did it, which is really nice too, because like, hey, I have a friend, that's a specialty, like he's going to come over and help me right and so forth.
Speaker 6:But beyond that point, what it does is it just sets up to where, if you're trying to make that next move to get to that next bigger step of hiring and moving up to that ladder chain of business, yeah, it does make sense to do that right. But if you're just you know, didn't know that, and you just want to keep going and you know whatever it may be to maintain that, then a lot of people don't know some of those little business aspects if you didn't go to like a little course to learn that how to entrepreneurship right, but and for me, like it really does have a lot of barriers too, with being a jack of all trades, I would have to say. Because if you hit to like these levels of success in being good at that, whatever, whatever it is, it's just like it. There's that next level of expansion in that area of field it's listen, use snowboarding. Like you know, you want to be an instructor because you're so good at snowboarding, but you don't have, you know, the ability or time or what. But you want to still get up there. But to do that you're still going to have to need the time, the car and reliability on the gear to you know, facilitate those instructions to an individual and then also be good at speaking. So, and at that point, if you, if you already know some of your, your low keys, then you can already go into the position of setting yourself up prior to executing and and and hopefully, you know, making it to that point of feeling like it was worth that and knowing, oh hey, I was a really good, you know, snowboarder and I didn't really go past that point of like the sponsorship and competing, but I got to that fulfillment to say I'm an instructor because you know, but you know I, you know there's these competing things in that line of field.
Speaker 6:That's a whole. That's a whole. Another line of field, you know, like people don't understand, like operating and doing snow equipment and stuff like that. That is a whole. Another world of even even existence, like free to live up there and so forth. That's exciting to even to do because like I'm going a little tangent on on a different note there, but any who with with kind of like that whole entrepreneurship and and being the master of of some and none, or jack of all but master of none, but there are the ranches of it. I was going to touch one little base on where I did kind of do that within the construction field because I understood so much of it for being, you know, up front into it so much and then expanding and doing all those other aspects like the framing, sheet, rocking, concrete, painting, you know finish or mill work and then even goes beyond that. It's like dude, I know how all this shit is actually fucking made it like it doesn't take much. It gets cut off a tree and it's milled up, playing sand and bam, done like dude, I'm paying how much for that, that piece of cedar? There's a tree right there like let's cut that. My time is way cheaper. So, like any who.
Speaker 6:But the other aspect was, like you know, like going into the other aspect of fields where I didn't understand that and then actually taking that time, dedicating a time to be certified and get the diploma ship for that.
Speaker 6:Well, that was a whole other level of excitement and accomplishment for me personally that I never did really feel that achievement by sometimes doing, oh well, you know I spent 12 years being a plumber, you know that I rather build houses, right, but you know it's like if, if there was a little more like bases, they could have, like, done it sooner, in a sense of not saying that I couldn't quit doing all of it, but more or less for me to do to get the certifications would have taken a lot.
Speaker 6:For me to just go right into that where you know didn't have that fulfillment and doing other courses and giving those degrees and whatnot. That that to me to say yes, I feel comfortable to say that I'm, in my own mind and my perspective, I'm certified to speak upon those aspects. So it is a level of security within yourself to talking to people about some of the things and, and, if you're wrong, sometimes, admitting to the wrongness to write and and and learning and how to grow from that where you may have not understood how that times have changed and you may have to develop and kind of grow with it and instead of just being stuck in your your own ways. So that's my rant and rave and thank you, and I see you have your hand up there.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, like I had my own take on the on the question that Lane asked before he asked it specifically to you, but I just it's there's every industry I feel like has evolution in it. So at some point your specialist is going to have to relearn some avenue, some. Obviously there's less of a degree of change over over the time frame. I mean, again, going back to the blacksmithing and bladesmithing hasn't really changed much in the last 2550 years. All that we've really had was the inclusion of like newer technologies for handles, newer technologies for stopping, like if you're building a case not a case, but like a if you're, if you're putting a bunch of mishmash steel together to do pattern steel, you know, filling the casing with white out so that the outer steel doesn't stick to the harder steel, stuff like that, like there's technologies involved with that sort of stuff, but it doesn't really change the overall construction of steel. Steel is still just iron and carbon mixed to make steel. Basically that's a basic gist of it. We have new machines that help us to achieve that, but by and large there's not a lot of differences in that metallurgy process, whereas stuff like construction or even the stuff that DAP does with computers, it's an ever evolving thing, so your specialists do have to keep essentially retraining themselves on things because I mean you look at how much construction has changed over the years and the different, the different regulations that are involved from place to place. Each state is different, each country is different. Here in Canada you know everything is screwed in with drills and I remember watching an episode of of homes on homes or one of those Mike Holmes shows. I don't know if you guys know who Mike Holmes is, but he's one of those like home repair guys that he's Canadian. And I remember watching episode of him going down to the States and doing shit down in the States and he was just dumbfounded by the fact that they used nails for a lot of stuff and didn't use screws. Now this is years ago so I don't know how things have changed. But, like you know a lot of the interior structure, we use screws for tying down the, the framing and tying down all that stuff. But even looking at piping and how piping is evolved over the years, you know we used to use galvanized steel piping for a lot of stuff and then before that was lead piping and then we've shifted to copper piping for things and now they're using this plastic piping for a lot of stuff internally, you know, for the, the water in. They're not using copper. For a lot of things they're using this flex tube that the joints are different and it's it's just a completely different kettle of fish.
Speaker 3:Now, looking at like electricians and stuff like that, again, not a lot of changes happen with electricity. It's all still pretty much copper wires and and shit like that. So there's certain avenues that definitely have their like. The specialists have to learn more and change and adapt to keep their specialist kind of status. But other avenues don't change a whole hell of a lot. I mean electricians really. At least here the biggest changes they've had to adapt to is installing electric car chargers and into people's houses, which is no different than like installing a new oven port or a new like dryer, what do you call it? So the, the, the outlets, are pretty much the same kind of concept in that, that essence that now obviously I'm not an expert in in electrician, but I'm, you know from the gist that I understand about it. It hasn't changed a huge degree. Electricity is electricity. We haven't found some amazing new technology on how to send electricity that we're utilizing in the field of home construction and stuff like that. So yeah, I think there's there's some avenue of if you want to be a specialist, you have to keep upgrading things.
Speaker 3:And again, case in point with with DAP and some of the stuff I know about him. I mean, he started getting into micro soldering and he's been doing some, some repairs on stuff that most people wouldn't even think to do. But even with him, like computers, they're constantly a changing environment and every year something new comes out that you have to kind of keep up with. So you think back like 15 years, 20 years, we didn't have m.2 drives. It was all still pretty much sata drives. Back then, even even back like 15 years, I don't think SSDs were very big. But now we have these drives that you you plug into the motherboard through an m.2 slot and you don't have these huge, clunky spinning disks anymore but you still have the same storage capacity. But if that drive dies you're fucked if you don't know how to get it up off the information. And someone like DAP who specializes in that micro soldering stuff, he could get that information off pretty easily. But there's some specialists out there that would charge you like $1500 to get that information back.
Speaker 3:So there's, there's definite benefits to being a specialist in that stuff and learning new tricks of the trade as they come out, and if you don't, you you can risk falling behind. I mean, there's a lot of old tradesmen who are plumbers, who are you know they're, they're tapers, they're, they're mutters, who they're. The technologies has changed, even tillers, for example. Technologies have changed over the years and the old ways don't work. I mean, they used to put tile down in houses with shit loads of cement and that was the glue that they would use, but it became too heavy for some of the floors and it would cause problems. So they've came out with new glues and new technologies that like seem to work better, that also create less weight in the house and on the floor, so it's less, less degradation on the floors and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3:So if you're not keeping up with it, those people get left behind and they almost get forced into early retirement because their stuff is no longer up to code and they can't really keep up with pace. I knew, I knew plumbers, who you know that when the new flex tube piping came out, they they didn't gel with it, they didn't want to learn it, they didn't want to get in with it and because the codes of houses and renovations and stuff changed, they get left in the dust, they're, they're no longer able to do their work because they didn't keep up with the changing of the tides. So, yeah, I think every industry has changing at some point, but it's just how fast or how much of a degree it changes in that field. Again, look at, look at electricians like not a huge difference in the last like 10, 15, 20 years. But that's just, again, my take on it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I agree with what all you said and yeah, the micro soldering is the newest specialty that I've had to learn because, like, apple has started serializing parts inside of your phone, so we have to take off little chips inside of there to be able to do third party repairs. So we have to know how to take those off so that your stuff will still work, and things like face ID where it scans your face. Yeah, that has to be done that way because Apple has proprietary software that allows them to strip the serial and everything and make sure it works with the new part and injects it on the new part and it works with it. And then nobody has been able to figure it out yet. There are things that bypass it and you can put like a little chip thing to a flex cable and then you plug it in and then it works. But, yeah, there's definitely a lot of stuff there as far as, like with the mobile stuff that stuff has gotten.
Speaker 4:It's going to continue to be that way because, like our big thing was right of repair, there's this huge act that was out there for everyone to be able to repair their own stuff if they so chose to and like they lobbied and everything for it, and that's just one of the things, you know, where you had some people that were highly specialized in it that were out there trying to, you know, do as best for you know everyone, I mean it didn't matter, you know what country you were from. As long as you know you were a user of those devices. It affected you and they ended up passing into law that Apple was required to have manuals and everything and diagrams showing you how to replace it and that they needed to have the parts there for you to be able to purchase it. The only problem is when you go out there and you try and fix it yourself. The parts are more expensive than the repair is for Apple to do themselves. So, yes, they abided to the law, which is the same sort of thing this books about right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, skirting the law.
Speaker 4:Yeah, getting around it right. Yeah, they do the same thing. Yeah, they do the same thing.
Speaker 3:I think there's some areas where they got penalized in Europe for that sort of stuff. The USB-C charger is what that was for, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so now that's why our newest iPhone has USB-C on it, so they were able to streamline it across instead, because there was some law passed over there in Europe to where all my mobile devices had to use the same thing, and over here Apple had the lightning charger proprietary just for them. And then they license it out, that technology, the third party manufacturers like Anker and Belkin and everybody else, and they're able to make the cables and then sell them. But Apple gets a cut off of that. And then, you know, europe find Apple like I don't know how many million and I'm sure it didn't do anything but find them for like probably a couple years because of it, and whenever they came out with the iPhone 15, that's when you got that. And then you'll notice too, on the new iPad Pros and the new iPads they also have USB-C. So you know they they put it on those too. So now everything just uses USB-C now. So it's all streamlined across and you know there's no proprietary thing there for them to. You know, have to do it. They did get to keep their mag safe. You know where they get to stick it on there, but that's pretty much it, you know, because I mean it's embedded inside the phone so it's a kind of like a secondary charge anyway. But yeah, like I agree with.
Speaker 4:Well, sparky said stuff that you know there's. I, whenever I started up in my parent's spare bedroom and stuff and had you know my work bench in there and stuff and was working on computers and I never thought I'd be working on cell phones and I had to work on cell phones because I knew it was another revenue stream and then I worked on websites. That was different from the stream. And then sometimes it's not even about learning stuff too it's. He also talked about time management a couple chapters back. So you know you learning these skills and stuff too is also you know, are you going to make good use of your time only going so far in is? Are you better going, you know, to a certain depth and stopping, or you better off become a master in something? Yeah, I don't know. You know it's, it's up to you on whatever you think's best and, um, you just I mean I can't tell you how many damn things that you know I got so far into and it's just like something else, like try, I went to get my real estate license and then it was like then it was the next thing, it's something else too. So, like you know, just just different things.
Speaker 4:But I mean, I don't know if it's, if it's you know the, the way the world was evolving around me and me changing to it, or if it was myself and me having a lack of interest after so long. Uh, I was kind of the way with video games with me and my youth and stuff. Like I would play one game until I got bored and I play a different one and play a different one. And I had like so many games growing up that like I was probably only like a handful that I ever even beat. So it's like I like I don't know, maybe it's just like I think I thrive off of the idea of doing something and I get excited about it and then once the excitement is gone, I'm already looking for the next thing. So, with my entrepreneurialism, I'm very surprised that my computer business is still going, because that's the only one that's, you know, still around, essentially. So, um, um, I don't know, maybe it, maybe it's kind of like my wife, you know.
Speaker 4:So, uh, ever yeah, you know, like I never have any thoughts of of, of leaving, you know what I mean. That's what I mean by it. I don't have any thoughts of leaving, um, but you know other things. Would you know? Save your soul. I'm still laughing save myself no, no, that's how I was in my thoughts just then, so I don't know.
Speaker 5:I'll tell you what I I liked this chapter. I liked it before we spoke and I like it even more after our discussion. Because this chapter, I really think, will get you thinking if you read it in some weird ways. I don't know, I don't know why, but it it seemed to do the same thing for you guys too. I kind of went everywhere, and I'll tell you one more category that my mind really drifted. For the first time I started thinking about my kids, what categories I think they will fall into and what categories they'll feel comfortable in uh, rich dad or poor dad lifestyle. Because it's like I I think about their passions also, and here's a weird thought that I've, I keep having. It's like yachts, houses, mansions, chains, gold, money, money, awesome. But then there's also, like this part of me, that's just like I'm so jealous of pre civilization, like could you imagine the life of, of just forever me?
Speaker 5:hunt me, cook me yeah, and the entertainment at night was the stars and the smoke coming up off the fire and you made music and you like. There's a part of me that when I read these types of books, I'm just like I long for that lifestyle and that life where, like, yeah, you didn't have the medical professionals that when you're dying to help you, but, man, just life was different, no taxes, no roads, you just survived and you had the loved ones around you and you literally worried about animals at night, type stuff, and it's like that would be kind of cool. But I, I, so I constantly have this like conflict in my head that I feel, like Robert does too, and I, I like it. I'm feeling more comfortable in being part rich dad, part poor dad. I like them both. And I am thinking about my kids and it's like my son that loves to act and karate and it's just like I want to see him follow his passions more than anything, you know, do I care what his thoughts are on money? Like not so much with him. With my oldest daughter, I I think I need to be more careful about teaching her about going after something and making a buck or two. I think about her differently my, my middle child. I really want to see her follow her passions with animals. Like it's so hard for me to even start thinking of money for like what to teach my kids, like I I'm kind of split on each of them also like, oh, where were that? Where will they feel comfortable? And it's not up to me, it's not, you know, at the end of the day, but I, I do think it would be fun to start, you know, talking about these ideas with them.
Speaker 5:This book has given me, I guess, the the confidence to start speaking to my kids more upfront about like yo don't let this stress you out, but let's start thinking of different directions in your life. And I'm just the the fun dad and like having those deep conversations of like life as they're, as they're starting to become teenagers, is starting to freak me out a little bit. So this book has actually given me a little bit of confidence in that department as a dad to like sit them down and be like yo, here's some different directions you could go, and I I really think like the rich dad, poor dad, can kind of help me guide them through like decisions that they want to make. It's like well, do you want security, uh, and do you want to specialize in something, because that's going to lead to here, here are some things you need to think about. Or would you like to learn how to make money, work for you and run businesses and like, well, let's, let's go down that. So I like that. This is helping me, as a dad, start to think about that stuff too, and I have thought about different mentors and brothers and uncles and dads in my life that have uh helped me, uh, in different, different aspects, and so I like also here's my last thought, sorry I'm, yeah, this chapter will kind of do this to you. I think it makes you think I loved the giving aspect and wrapping, wrapping it back to uh pandemania, the fact that we give to real life giant pandas through pandas international.
Speaker 5:I like it. It works. I really think so you guys that like there is an aspect to like put a spin of giving into anything in your life, and I'm I'm not like a spiritual person anymore. I I don't, I think differently now, but like I still really, really like to hold on to like superstitions a little bit and just thinking like that I it's fun for me. I not that I even believe in it or that I think that it works. I just really like to think like this back, when I gambled at the blackjack table, I would always buy a little bit of karma every single hand by tipping the, by tipping the dealer, and I love to think like that and and I I'm gonna hold on to that again. I don't know if I necessarily believe in it, but I'd like to buy karma in life, and so it's not even like a marketing plan. I I don't think we should even think like that, like how can we give money to make more money? It's just I really think it's helped me in in different aspects.
Speaker 5:Today we were. We were talking about different pay commission structures and how can we help bring a little bit of morale this week to ourselves. People we're restructuring and I'm consistently asking myself, like is this gonna be good for their families? Is this, you know, like to just think in terms of other people. I just think it's a healthy mindset and I'm really glad he threw that in there, and so I'm not trying to like to pandemonium his own horn, but like giving back is really important for the human heart and soul, I think. And so to be involved in anything, think about any anything that you've been a part of, where they were giving something back. It helps you feel good and I just think if you can wrap that into your everyday life, your business decisions, your family decisions, if you can buy a little bit of karma, put a little bit of love out there, give back when you can.
Speaker 5:I also think you should be wise about it and not give money that you don't have as well. That's a, that's a trap that you can go down and you need to be really careful and be wise and also protect your money. But give, whether it's money or love or a hello or a smile. I just, I love that. That was an overwhelming thought for me is like I'm gonna keep on that. I he told me Robert gave me the okay, I'm gonna keep buying karma because it does, it comes back, and not always and I don't expect it.
Speaker 5:But just I, I've had just a tremendous shift in life as I've started to think like that and with every action and decision, and I fuck up always and I apologize to my kids and to business associates and colleagues, and but to have that ready to go, like I genuinely feel sorry and like, oh man, I've actually been trying to like think about people more. It's just a good shift and it it will change your everyday expectations out of life, I think, and you'll start to feel more at peace with yourself. And so, yeah, I I don't know where Robert wanted to go with with giving back, he just touched on it, he didn't go into details and I just really liked that. So I guess those are my kind of closing thoughts. I I got a lot out of this chapter.
Speaker 5:I think it might be one of my favorites so far, just because of how it made me think and I'm becoming more comfortable with Robert that he's allowing us to disagree with him. He wants that, he wants us to ask questions, he wants us to find what our path is, and even he himself gave me a little bit of like, an out this week, of like I don't I'm not fully in the rich dad camp. As a dad, as a son, as a business guy like I. There's a lot of poor dad that I really, really like.
Speaker 5:So sorry for the long closing thoughts, but those that's kind of my rambling for the night. I appreciate you guys. Ryan, I'd love to go to you, my friend, and I'll start putting a little wheel together. Go ahead, my friend.
Speaker 6:I forgot why I raised my hand, but yeah, it was a great space to meet you guys and ladies. Everybody had some really good takes and good thoughts and yeah, this book is kind of interesting a little different than I expected, but I'm enjoying it. I'm really enjoying, actually, the audio because I'm able to go back a little bit and listen to it, actually put it on before I go to bed and put a little timer on that away. It doesn't continue, but you know it's something to listen to and I've always been a believer and listen to audio kind of as money type stuff. As you know, you prep for sleep. It's one of the things and my prep before I sleep is using these tones or special audios that I've came across over the years that you know use the frequencies and whatnot, and for me it's just kind of the bases that I like to use. And then you know, using this and heard the other ones that I've enjoyed and it's got a kind of interesting you know take it's not just like some of the other ones, so I would suggest it and yeah, I'm looking forward to our next book.
Speaker 6:I was going to ask if we've made any kind of like arrangements or thoughts about that and maybe we could start getting to a point of brainstorming, because I know we're getting to the point of getting close to the end of this one, so I'm not sure how anybody's got a preference with, especially within the audience, people that listen quite a bit. Frequency, or frequency, ha, frequent. We'd love to know what you guys would like to read. And, yeah, looking forward to Wednesday, you guys, we got what? Three more or four more? You guys? Where are we at Lane? Do you know? There's sparky.
Speaker 5:I think it's nine chapters total and we've got four five five yeah five left, or no four, just a couple.
Speaker 6:Four, a couple we've got seven, eight, nine, so that's literally two more weeks, or, yeah, two more weeks it's coming up. That's why I was bringing it up. I was like hearing it in my mind and like, oh, okay, we better get something figured out for that. And yeah, you know, I'll hand it back over to you, lane, and looking forward to Wednesday.
Speaker 5:I love it, and Sparky's already got his reading done, chapter seven yep. So yeah, overcoming obstacles.
Speaker 3:I'm excited about this one because I had a lot to say about it and okay, I'm like completely shut down today. I was like what we're on six, son of a bitch, yeah.
Speaker 5:I'm excited. I, I think you know he's been. He's been quiet about obstacles at at all the different stages of his successes, and so I'm excited to see how realistic it is. I guess I haven't even, I haven't even peaked, and so I'm excited to dig into this one because I think that'll be good for us to hear that he's had obstacles. I just think that's so important in reading of other people's success to hear their tips on getting through obstacles, and that's just a fact that they will be there. They are there. You've got to be prepared for I. Yeah, I'm excited. So Sparky might be thinking, oh, you're gonna, you're gonna hate it because it's I don't know. I'm excited. You said you got lots of thoughts.
Speaker 3:Well, I think I think I don't think it's so much about him talking about him overcoming obstacles at least, that's not what I got out of it. It's him telling you that, like all the different obstacles that are there, like sure, there's some examples and stuff, but that's not the take that I got out of. It was him being like oh well, I had this problem and I had that problem. It was more like people have this problem and and you have to get over it if you want to be rich, and like he's basically again chastising people for certain things, and my take on it was like you're a dick, like just a concept that came across as it. Anyways, we'll talk about it next week, but okay.
Speaker 5:So him him talking about giving was just priming me for him to tell me to to get rich again. That's awesome. I'm excited. Yeah, I think it will at least open up the conversation that I'm I want to have of, just, yeah, get ready, get ready for some obstacles, whichever path you go down. And yeah, life is tough and whether you choose the rich dad route or the poor dad route, you've got obstacles ready and you should expect them and you should, you know, become prepared and know how you handle obstacles and and get to know yourself and ways that you know you can get through them well and I don't know. I think it's, it's a really good conversation to have. That I'm and it might, it might completely change as I read through it. So I'm excited.
Speaker 5:I love these conversations with you guys and I wanted to give a shout out to Edward. One of our, one of our past authors has been, has been, listening in. Big shout out to you, brother, much love for your past books that we enjoyed and, yeah, we've been having some fun with some self-help, but, boy oh boy, the days of just relaxing to some good old fiction were nice, you know. Now we're all getting all serious again talking about goals and money and whoo, it gets. It gets real like motivating and inspiring. And I I, as you know, I just love getting lost in plots and stories and tales and that was a really good time, bro. I just loved our fiction days and we'll go back to some fiction in the future, but yeah, this, this has been a definite shift. Go ahead, sparky.
Speaker 3:I just I wanted to talk about just a little bit more about the, just the learning to or working to learn and that sort of aspect, because one of the things that that I did read in the chapter was him talking about how the, the rich dad, told him and Mike that they should basically do what some of these companies are doing and have them work in many different departments and not specialize in that sort of thing.
Speaker 3:And I feel like that's not a good thing to perpetuate, especially like the reason that this brought this up to me was you talking about having the conversation with your kids and like where to start with your kids and that sort of thing is if you don't pick an avenue and follow it through.
Speaker 3:There are people out there who become career students and they keep just going to school and they pick a new subject and they you know they they finish that subject and they go to another subject because they didn't like the career path of that subject offered and they just keep going into depth essentially doing that. And there's people out there who have the same kind of mentality in the workforce and their you know their their mentality is working at a job for like two or three years getting bored with it, moving on to something else. You don't build up longevity in things doing that, and you look at some of the CEOs that are out there today who are making billions of dollars. Some of them didn't get there by starting the company. Some of them got there by being kind of the top tier in their in their profession and making their way there. I don't know the full story of someone like tim cook, but I would take him as an example.
Speaker 3:I mean, I would largely argue that the only reason he's CEO right now is because steve jobs died and I would say that the reason he got that position was because he put himself in a position for working at a company for a long time, that he was in a high enough position at that company that he was kind of the next in line.
Speaker 3:I mean, his job was I'm pretty sure he was like some sort of engineer at the company he was. He was not really the CEO kind of person and even as a CEO I don't think he's doing a great job. That's just my opinion, but that's besides. The point is, you know, he wasn't the CEO before and he's not the CEO because of him starting the company, but he got himself into a position where he was hired on because of, you know, the longevity that he put into the, the workforce that he started in. And it's very rare that people will become higher ups in in a lot of fields by just knowing somebody. It does happen to some degree, but it's very rare that that's the case.
Speaker 5:Oh, did we lose you.
Speaker 4:We can't hear you, sparky can you hear me?
Speaker 3:yes sir, where did it? Where do we lose me?
Speaker 5:Just like, just like five, ten seconds ago, I just it.
Speaker 3:Just, I think that there's, there's, you know, some CEOs that are, you know, spoiled brass that get in because their parents, but at the end of the day, a lot of them Maybe not just CEOs, but people in positions higher up in their fields, you know they spent the time to get there. So there's something again to be said for Putting forth an effort to spend time in a field and work your way up the ladder, because that can be Financially beneficial in itself too. It may not be for for everyone and in a lot of ways, but I Mean, if you don't make the effort, you're not gonna get anywhere in it. So that's just my take on that. The other thing that I wanted to talk about was Can we, can we have a conversation about Lane having a conversation with his kids and being like yo dawg, let's talk about money, like just the way that he said. It sounded absolutely ridiculous, but I think it would be a hilarious conversation to be a fly on the wall. But realistically or you know, not all kidding aside me and me and dad played that game that he yeah, he has, and I mean I've got my own take on that game. We don't really have a lot of time now to get into detail about it. I think it's definitely worth us Having a session with whoever wants to play there's we're gonna be six but I think that that game being used as a tool to decide what kind of person you are is just not realistic In my personal opinion.
Speaker 3:I think it has a lot of flaws and how it's designed and I don't feel like we would be making decisions like we would in reality based on that game but you know, some people might in his training sessions.
Speaker 3:I just don't feel like we like, even when we end up playing it, I'm making logical decisions based off of how to win the game, but ultimately it's just based off of chance and there's a lot of variables with life that don't fall into play with that game and I don't know. It's a very difficult game to, in my mind, say that you can psychologically Determine somebody based off of it. But I think it's definitely worth us having a look at and having a play through, just for Shits and giggles, because it was rather fun to kind of play it and I think it was something like eight turns that I ended up winning the game and Dapp was like what the fuck? But it was. It was definitely an interesting game and I don't like I I don't even Claim to have skill in the game, it was literally just luck that I got the cards that I got and won in that sense, oh hey, there's a lesson there.
Speaker 5:Some people just get good hand, good cards dealt and Others have to make it work. Man, that's fun I'm. That's a good, that's a good review. And, yeah, I'll, I'll have to do like a little parody video, a little little skit with my kids of Going down that conversation route with them with that Yo dog. I Would actually probably disappoint my parents and some of you if you Heard how I speak with my children anyways. So I need to, I need to mature. That for that's for sure, man. But this was, this was good and I'm excited to try the game. I think it.
Speaker 5:You know, in this chapter he himself admits To dashing a little bit of controversy in his stuff to make some sales. So I like that. He was honest about that. His first book, he's like I chose to go with a controversial Covered a title of the book and it worked. It was selling like hotcakes and you know. So that even gave me some insight into rich dad, poor dad. I even said that the first couple times. Look, man, that title is so like what cringy or something, but it sure does Make you want to read it. You know it's, man, there's got to be some controversy in here. The game I'm sure he, even within his book, might have Given us a pretty crazy exaggerated statement like that. Just Spark a little controversy, make us want to play it. The guy, the guy makes his monies. I, I think that'll be a fun game to play. A sassy also wanted to do that. So maybe, maybe after we finish, yeah, we do a little little round of what. What's the game called? Again, it's not rat race or cash flow.
Speaker 5:Cash flow. That's right. That's right, cool, yeah, I still haven't checked it out. So I got to check it out and and I'm sure there's some cheat codes, you know maybe some formulas. I know I won't cheat, I'm not gonna Google any any, any Strategy or anything. We'll see. We'll see what kind of stupid decisions I make. Well, my friends that, ryan, you guys have any any other thoughts? I appreciate those thoughts. Sparky Thanks. Guys are ready?
Speaker 6:Oh no, no, not really All right that.
Speaker 4:No, not really other than, yeah, I really like playing that game. I don't know why the first five times I played to the lost. You can actually play it against yourself just to see if you can get out of the rat race and you'll lose. And so, yeah, me and sparky were playing it and I mean I just kept getting shit on with the whatever I got. It was like pay this, pay this, pay this, and his was like by shares of a dollar, and the next time they were worth $40 and I was like, so it was. It was literally I'm gonna say this, don't take this the heart.
Speaker 4:But I Felt, like you felt that it was unrealistic at that point in time, and and I did too. But when I went to bed that night and I woke up and I told Jacqueline that way, played it, and Then I thought about it, I was like you know what? That was pretty damn realistic, because there are some people that are dealt hands like that in life and it just works that way, and there are people to take risks and just Constantly get shit on, unfortunately. So I was just part of it, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I understand that aspect of it too, but I mean, just my entire take on it is I don't I don't. I don't agree with it.
Speaker 4:Yeah Well, it's a game that's supposed to be played in 15 minutes versus life.
Speaker 3:I just think it's I don't know it's it's worth a full discussion at some point, for sure.
Speaker 4:It's like monopoly on steroids is what it's like.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's what it sounds like. I'm excited to check it out. Yeah, I think that'll be a Good, a good kind of finale to this book. He sure has put a whole presentation together. Man, he's got, he's got upsells. I'm sure ready on that site for the the game, right, I'm?
Speaker 4:sure, there's ads everywhere my seminar, clances, other shit, etc. Bubble Blonde. Yeah, it's all on there, dude, it's snowing outside.
Speaker 5:Nice? No, we've been. We've still been getting snow here and there, and I Didn't. Hey, wasn't the the groundhog? Didn't he predict an early spring? Do I remember that?
Speaker 4:yeah, he did. I have Buttercups that are about the bloom in my front yard already, so oh yeah, I'm ready for spring.
Speaker 5:I'm ready for spring. As much as I love snowboarding, I Like myself some warm weather, so I'm getting excited for the warm weather. My friends, this is a Been, a good, a good session. I feel motivated and inspired and I I won't. I'll try not to go down that path of wishing that we could all go back in time pre civilization. I love civilization. I love Wi-Fi, I love indoor plumbing. I you know I have to snap myself out of it and remind myself I'd you know, don't? Yeah, this is good.
Speaker 5:No, I was gonna say there be no gym reimbursement if we did that exactly, the gym, the yeah, oh man, all the, all the amenities, the Cell phones, the Google Internet.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I love living in 2024 who would a stout buffalo for weeks?
Speaker 5:No, no comfy shoes.
Speaker 6:Funny that you, for I forgot that I was paying for a utility I even know I was using. So that's, the project gets good. That's it, man. I love it.
Speaker 5:I love it. Oh and hey. Oh, that was a good reminder. We get sucked into these books. I did make an announcement. The official six week mark has happened. Hopped into the discord. Check the announcement. Open a ticket.
Speaker 5:I want to get you guys some free plushies. So that's, that's happening. My friends and I can't wait to see some, some posts online. I'm just being 100% blunt and honest. That would be spectacular. Post those little cuties and they're just itty-bitty. And I've got all sorts of plans for Just the whole lineup of our different characters and NFT collections. So the OG's, the plushies, so just heads up, these guys are cute and small. We got bigger plushies in the in the plans.
Speaker 5:I've been really excited to send out just a shit ton of these and see what the post office, or, you know, the postman, says when I bring all these in, because I'm literally not Doing any kind of special in-house shipping. I, I'm going down there and they've already seen me in there so many times, so I can't wait till I have like a big arm Full of these packages and the guy, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna give all them because, yeah, they know me, they know me now and they're just like Really nice. I know I think like maybe I'm wrong, but postmen, the guys that work in the, in the office, I feel like they get like they're under some stereotype, that they're their assholes, but these guys are just the best. I love my local post office. They're, they're so fun. So I I can't wait to go in there with a shit ton of them and see what they say and give them some. And yeah, cuz I Really enjoy Making, making friends everywhere ago, even even the post office, I'm excited to get those tickets submitted. And yeah, if, if you're worried in any way, shape or form about Docking yourself because yeah, I got to ship stuff out, I'm sure there's creative ways we could even these aren't huge packages, they're just little mailers. There's got to be creative ways for anyone that wants to not not Put in a ticket their address. I completely understand. So I should make an announcement and figure something out for that.
Speaker 5:But in the meantime, anyone else, hop in there and let's, let's get those little cuties out. And I've got a wheel here. Let me start a recording, shuffle it up, let's get a number, number one to sixty. Let's see. I know one of you guys have got a number on your mind 24, oh, 24 is a good number and you know I liked that show. I'm not gonna lie, I think I watched every damn episode of that show. Keep, keep her Sutherland, right? I?
Speaker 6:would not.
Speaker 5:Okay, oh, this is a close one. This is a close one. Oh, boy, this is so close. I think our friend, okay Famo, I'm always gonna know you as famo. I've got you in here as toast Malone, but I always like your, your original og name, famo. I appreciate you being in here, my friend and I know where you're at in the world.
Speaker 5:It's early, so you you make a point to hop in here early. Thanks for being here and and for everyone. Thank you guys for being here, listening to our crazy conversations and listen. You guys can all hop up here, even if you're not Reading the book. If you have any kind of thoughts, you're always welcome. Sometimes we get random strangers hopping in here and wanting to come up on stage and we are very careful to keep it Distraction-free. But, man, there's so many of you that we just know and anytime you want to come up, we're ecstatic to have new voices and thoughts and us, us, dads, we go on our, on our tangents, and so any of you, if you have Significant and relevant and inspiring things to say, please don't hesitate. And in the comments I'm always reading awesome things. So, thank you guys, and I'm the type that just likes to be a fly on the wall in most conversations anyway, so I'd be just an audience person most of the time anyway. So I just appreciate all the roles that are played.
Speaker 5:I think this is the only book club on X, but it's the best. I don't know there's. Is there another one? There can't be, but I just I think this is so cool what we do. Thank you guys for showing up. Sparky, dap and Ryan, you guys are always up here on some Stage and, yeah, I think you guys are a good Example of yeah, you know what I mean. I think this is a great example. Sparky made that point earlier that just be in here at the book club. That that's a great example of just you know, building your network, building your your knowledge, building your motivation, whatever it is. Things like this, I think, really are beneficial to humans on a on a big scale. And here Robert talk about that yeah, fucking bill. So I I'll keep rambling, you guys. I'm feeling Grateful tonight, so I'll probably keep rambling and get more and more off topic. So, sparky, save me, go ahead. And I would love to hear one more, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, or or just a few minutes.
Speaker 3:I tried time them with what you're saying, but it's kind of hard because there's a delay between the computer. Yeah, so I'm not trying to be a dick. Just I tried to get them up when you were talking about having random strangers up speaking, and that was the reason. But I have music if you want to continue your what you were saying though.
Speaker 5:No, that was it just just all good, all good thoughts. Tonight it's been a good day. Rough, rough day, I don't know I feel accomplished, busy day. It's definitely not like one of those like relaxing days. So I love coming to this book club and being able to kind of kick back and as exhausting as a Day like today has been, I Come to a space or a conversation, it's like I'm so exhausted I probably won't talk and here I've just been rambling. This is so like healthy for me and therapeutic. So if I ever Go on too many tangents I apologize. You guys are dealing with this as like my therapy to no, I really appreciate this and I just love this book club.
Speaker 5:I genuinely Look forward to Mondays and Wednesdays. My wife knows that she Is it, at least she's. She's good at pretending, if she, if she's Faking it at all that she's excited for my book club because she knows it's that important to me. So she asked how my reading is and how things are going. My kids all know Mondays and Wednesdays are book club. I just really love that. I think that's a good example for our kids too. We sit around and talk about books. I think that's a good Thing for our kids to see. So I really love when they walk in and I'm reading a book, whatever it is.
Speaker 5:I grew up Always walking in and my dad was reading a book and he always had his highlighter out. So I that was just a really good example for me growing up, and all these screens and technology Flood our lives and and our feeds. I will always kind of hold on to that that there's something just old school and Good and healthy about a good old book, especially in today's screen filled Lives. So I love this book club. Much love to you guys. Thanks for dealing with my, my sappy Monologues and and outros. But there you have it. That's all. That's all my thoughts. I got more but I won't Torture you guys. Sparky hit it.
Speaker 3:So the first song that I played was obviously Children learnings kind of song for kids and it was called count your money, but in brackets was called penny nickel dime. This song is called penny nickel dime but it's got a completely contrasting vibe.
Speaker 7:We do. Coming in means I got to catch it, I've got myself a diamond ring, but it's all in all these things I can do without we do. Well, we got to get the way you see it. So, where you go, yeah, that's the way you go I didn't have respect for my money.
Speaker 2:They lay having sex before my money. A testament to money, lord knows it ain't a good look. That's why gentlemen like me become I ride for the money. I ride for the money, I even kill for some money. And they wonder why I ain't so proud of myself.
Speaker 7:Now, what more can I say Do it, boy. How you do it, boy, is that we do it. Do it, do it for the dollar, dollar, dollar, dollar bill, dollar, dollar, dollar bill.
Speaker 2:So put the rings up in the air. Yeah, I know you got some loose chains.
Speaker 3:And that's that. So we do it for the dollars, dollars.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Good night, everyone. See you on Wednesday, have a kick-ass week.