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Storytelling, Community, and Crypto Wonders: Delving into Novels, Blockchain Books, and the Warmth of Holiday Sentiments

December 21, 2023 Layne Boyle & Guests Season 1 Episode 201
PANDA SPACES
Storytelling, Community, and Crypto Wonders: Delving into Novels, Blockchain Books, and the Warmth of Holiday Sentiments
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Ever found yourself haunted by the enigmatic themes of life, death, and the connections that bind us? That's exactly the rabbit hole we plunged into as we unpacked the gripping conclusion of Edward's novel, which drew inspiration from the evocative game Death Stranding. Alongside this brilliant author, we peeled back the layers of his story's emotional resonance, all while weaving in our own tales and a song that struck a chord with the book's profound finale. Edward's visit to our book club wasn't just a discussion; it was a celebration of storytelling, replete with the trials of our personal journeys and the collective anticipation for the literary escapades that lay ahead.

As the pages of our current read flutter to a close, we're greeted by the fresh perspective of a guest from the Battle Bunnies community who introduces us to the intriguing world of community-written novels on the blockchain. The art of writing takes center stage as we share cultural exchanges and ponder the bittersweetness of holiday joy juxtaposed with financial constraints. Our camaraderie strengthens as we confess our reading habits and look forward to new adventures in literature, with Ryan weighing in on the psychological allure of his latest challenging read.

Waving goodbye to Edward, our conversation took an unexpected turn into the realm of cryptocurrency and its uncanny knack for sneaking into our lives—in both laughable and challenging ways. We navigated the high seas of Ethereum gas fees with humor, weighed the intricacies of promoting crypto projects, and capped it all off with a sprinkle of festive cheer. From the love of Christmas music to extending heartfelt season's greetings to all, this episode is a testament to the power of community spirit and the enduring ponderances that good stories leave in their wake.

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Speaker 1:

See the sunset. The day is ending. Let that young man as long pretend he is. I will hold you and protect you. So let love form you till the morning. I'll stay with you by your side. Close your tired eyes. I'll wait and soon I'll see. Yes, I am in a dream and I won't wake before you go. And I'll still be your body. He is a hero, adorned with our true Watch. That star fall beyonds without you. I'll stay with you in your mind Every single day. I'll wait and soon we're struggling on the beach in a dream and soon I'll see. Yes, I am in a dream. See the sunset. The day is ending. Let your heart say see the sunset, see the sunset. I'll stay with you. I'll stay with you and I'll stay with you. I'll stay with you, I'll stay with you.

Speaker 4:

I'll stay with you.

Speaker 5:

That was a great fit for the ending of this book. I was like Sparky did he get caught up? Because that was spot on, and now I know it was directly from the author himself, so of course it was going to match some vibes that he wanted to put forth. Edward, do you want to add anything to that song request? That's awesome.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I mean it was one of those songs that when I played Death Stranding it kind of really stuck with me and the whole life and death and how it's all connected it really resonated with me and it was kind of just something that felt right for the book and I think it might even give me some of the inspiration for the beach themes and stuff that went on in the book. Obviously there was no lighthouse, but the whole beach vibe and stuff. It kind of really resonated with me well. So if anyone wants to know what Death Stranding is, it's usually when fish and wildlife from the ocean end up being stranded on the beach from the waves and the shallow tides coming in and then they end up dying.

Speaker 6:

The whole idea of the game is about life and death and that through life these new kind of beings come into play and they're connected through, you know, kind of like a birth. What do you call it? Biblical chords. It's really an interesting game how the live people are connected to the dead through the biblical chords. I don't know. It's such a really inspirational game and such a cool. If you guys ever get a chance and you have a PlayStation 5, pick it up. A lot of people call it a walking simulator, but I don't know. It was one of the coolest stories I've seen in a while in the game.

Speaker 5:

That's awesome. Yeah, my son, get down on some PS5 action. We'll have to take a look. Good recommendation, good sir, and how you feel, and this is the last space we're going to be talking about the whole book, the beginning, the end, the whatever, wherever you want this to go. I just kind of want to get your thoughts and feelings as we think about wrapping this up with this space. Crazy. I can't believe we've flown through this book, I feel.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I mean it's been definitely a roller coaster of emotions throughout the whole thing. We've had a lot of ups and downs as we were reading the story through our own personal lives and in the book. So it's bittersweet and, you know, just before Christmas it's nice that we get to finish it up, and you know. Move on to financial books. Yay.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, hey, who knows, maybe they're going to be thrilling and we're going to. Yeah, we're, we're, you're, yay. That would crack me up, oh man. Well, I am certainly excited to get some input on the reading and everything. I just want to catch up with everyone before we get into the swing of the book club. Sparky, how are you doing? It's been a second since I've said hello to everyone, so I feel like we just got to check in with everyone. Sparky, what's up? What's new with you?

Speaker 4:

Um, just living life, dealing with shit all the time. Um had to take my son to the hospital on Sunday. Um, yeah, it's just been, you know, up and down, up and down. It's one of those things that, yeah, I tried to get caught up in the book and there's always, there's always something that's going on in real life. That's just stopping me from sitting down and reading it. So I did before last week's non space that we we postponed. I went ahead and read the ending just to catch that, at the very least.

Speaker 5:

Yes, bro, I'm so glad you did that, because I need some help to be honest, while while Edward snuck away for a second, maybe he got rugged. I need some help on that ending, bro, and I know it's probably so simple for you, so I'm glad you caught up on that part. Thank you.

Speaker 4:

It was one of those things that, like I've been, I've been trying not to read the ending.

Speaker 4:

Like I, when we're doing these books in these spaces, I'm trying not to read the ending. Where, like if I'm in the middle of of like a TV show or something along those lines, I'll if I feel like I have a prediction of how it's going and I'm not really super engrossed in it, I'll go and Look up the information online. And obviously I can't do that with this book because there's no like Wikipedia or anything that has all the information that you need. So I I couldn't do that. I couldn't go to the back of the book and just read the ending. So I I held off as long as I could until, you know, we're at the end, and I felt like I needed to catch up to some degree.

Speaker 4:

But it was one of those things that, even trying to read the ending, you had to read, like I had to go back before part four and read like five or so chapters, even more than that, just to kind of get the whole breadth of what took place. Because, like, some of the stuff just didn't make sense. So you like go back a couple more chapters and read some more so I get a gist of what happened at this point, but I don't get the whole, the whole thing. But yeah, just just a nonstop bag of chaos.

Speaker 1:

You know life, life in general.

Speaker 5:

Well, I'm glad you're here with us. And, man, I think this time of year especially does the do the holiday seasons add a little bit more for you like, like most of us. So maybe it's just me and I use it as an excuse.

Speaker 4:

I think the holiday season isn't that stressful for us in general. We were, we tend to be pretty easygoing, you know, I don't. I don't see my brother, I don't see my aunts and uncles that much and it's all with. With like reason, I don't tend to spend a lot of time with anybody other than like my mom and dad and save my, my in-laws, so we don't have a lot going on there. But it has been a little bit more stressful in the sense of, you know, obviously everybody kind of knows that I'm not working, so funds are tight and it's a little more stressful that way, because how do you have Christmas without spending money? So we've tried to spend as little as possible and still try and get some gifts from my son and things like that. So yeah, it's been. It's been a little stressful that way, but otherwise, you know, still trying to make things work and make things do.

Speaker 5:

Well, I bet some sometimes these kind of Christmases can can go down as the best just quality time and memories and getting getting through tough chapters and man I I sure hope anyone if this is a stressful time of year for whatever reason, I hope we can all get through it, start the new year strong and, like Edward, kind of hinted at and laughed at we'll, we'll we might dive into some finance books, start working on our new year's goals and resolutions and get a fresh start. And yeah, this has been a crazy year in the crypto world too. But we're on book, we're on book conversation. I shouldn't tangent there, ryan. How are you doing, my friend?

Speaker 7:

I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Can you hear me? Am I coming through good enough here?

Speaker 5:

Yes, sir Loud and clear.

Speaker 7:

All right, perfect. Just over here settling the kids in. We didn't know how I was going to get them out of the bath in time and so they're getting cozy. They're waiting for me to finish the routine here. Yeah, but things are great. I guess you know I'm excited for this holiday season, so like pulling miracles all the way around. It's amazing that the crypto space is just here in the way it's working In so many directions right now with IRL, with the book how you got to a point where I was, I don't know. I'm almost felt. I'm not confused by the book, I just like hard times falling along by the book, I guess you'd call it, but more or less not the book, the characters and kind of like the distance they're going and kind of relating to it and like kind of visualizing the next process with the book. So it was hopefully for me a different take. I didn't finish. I still got, I think, 320 pages left. So a little behind that too bad, which I'm actually kind of stoked.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, not bad bro, I'm impressed. That's a good chunk.

Speaker 7:

Thanks, man, I feel achieved. I guess it's the biggest book I've read. It's really neat. It's kind of challenging, to say the least, because it's making me try to understand how to relate with the book and I'm just not. I feel like that my next big book is going to be some kind of maybe a sub series type. You know where it's like a grass. I was going to use the Lord of the Ring novels because it's so big, right, and if you put that whole book into one big book it would be a big book. So that's what it's going to be like, or something like that I could totally get into. And then the plot I was. It took me a bit to get used to it, but I did like the psychological part because it's taken me think I'm enjoying that aspect.

Speaker 7:

I definitely enjoy learning about Ed and his ability to write stories, because he's amazing. I'm not a writer, I'm not a composer, I never was that great at it, but I feel like I can speak, sometimes what I have on my mind first skidded onto paper and whatnot. But he does a great job of doing that. So I just wanted to make sure to give him a pause for that, even though he's not here. Hopefully he can come back on the recording or jump back in. But it's amazing how he is he's just got the skill for it A little different than Dether author. We had Xander, which I could have a little more time wanting to read his book, over Ed's. First because I relate to him as an author being able to just put his characters first. That's what I was going to say, because Ed was a great composer, great storyteller, but I also feel like he sometimes forgets the characters along with the story. That's where I kind of felt with the other books too, because the way I related with some of them they kind of faded off towards the end. But they are still there strong. But it's really neat. I'm really excited to hear a couple of other takes about it.

Speaker 7:

I see that your brother is up here. Happy Holidays, david. It's good to see you up here, buddy, and I hope everything is good with you and Dap. You're cooking. Happy Holidays, you're sparky as well. You're amazing, brother. Keep it up. I know it's tough for us fathers out there. Let's keep going Head up, strong, shoulder straight and foot forward. Our kids will always know the difference between the right and the wrong, and then everybody else in the audience. I appreciate you for coming by and sticking through this journey on this crazy book. Back to you, lane.

Speaker 5:

That was awesome, ryan. Great intro thoughts, edward. Just hop back in and I'm super. I feel bad because Ryan just gave you some great compliments, edward, and I can't echo them, so they were horrible compliments. I was talking crap. No, he was saying yeah, he was saying I wish Edward was here.

Speaker 5:

Hopefully he'll get back and he'll listen to this, but he was basically just saying he's really just impressed that you can tell these stories. I am too, man. I'm just really baffled by your imagination and your ability to take all these ideas you've gathered through all these sources and I love that you've been honest about your sources, whether it's music or video games or other writing or books or movies. I just really like this whole experience, and Ryan was giving you some great compliments and just telling us that he thinks you're a really wonderful person and talented person. I can't agree more with that statement.

Speaker 5:

You're a great guy and you have amazing talents, and it's one thing to have talents, but to then have the balls to go out there, publish it, put it out there for people to read, for them to then talk about it not just one hour, but one hour at a time. Over multiple weeks. You signed up for something at each step of this journey where you continue to push yourself, put yourself out there, and it's really marvelous. And Ryan said some great things. You'll have to listen back on it. Ryan, do you want to echo anything? Just maybe repeat anything that you want Edwards here now.

Speaker 7:

Sure, yeah, just my take was with the book, especially with this book, I was just kind of making points and the key points that I was finding within the writings that for me as a reader and to books and storylines that I enjoy, how I definitely enjoyed Well, I haven't been in it. I've got like 300 something pages left, but it's been kind of hard for me to kind of relate and understand the story, not really list like overall understanding, but kind of like anticipate the story. You know what I mean. With the other books I kind of felt like I was able to. Or the other author, I was able to do it because his writing style and his way to relate to the character versus your relation to the story and then that shows like your storytelling and how well you are with it and that's what kind of that would prove me in and kept me reading all the books that you've written, just like God. I love it.

Speaker 7:

And there's a reason why because I kind of researched a little bit to understand the different writing styles and because I didn't realize there's this whole world of philosophies of writing and the way people write and compose things and it was just me to understand a little bit of those kind of principles behind the writers and to not only for me as a reader but to go through that myself with your writing and then with Xander's writing, and it was just amazing to understand it and then to kind of see it.

Speaker 7:

But in the overall I still was drawn in, I still enjoyed it and it just has all to you for being able to provide that storytelling and some of those flying details. Like you do a great job with details and putting yourself in the mind into that moment in the book and really putting force that perception for me at least, and it really was enjoyable. But, like I said, it felt different to be able to challenge myself, to be able to watch you because it's so big and I was like, oh, that's a bag man. I got intrigued because of that style of writing, so it was neat. I just wanted to applaud you on that.

Speaker 6:

Well, thank you so much, man, and also thank you for adding liquidity to the mother LP that's up above. I just noticed that you added $170 to it. So, yeah, thank you so much for that. And a little segue into anyone that does want to be a parent of mother where we have if you've ever used radium, you can now earn mother through providing liquidity to our staking boom. So that's going to go on for a month and I may extend it depending on how interested people are getting in.

Speaker 6:

So if you guys are at all into Solana and you want to get into this project, which is part of the book which is going to be a plan to do kind of like a prequel into, you know, keepers of Lighthouse and tell us different story through different sort of narratives, I think it's going to be really cool. Yeah, I just thank you, ryan, honestly, like you are probably one of the few people in this space that I can hands down say this guy is an honorable motherfucker, and I say that with all the love. I know David's ears down there burning, but I appreciate everything you've done, man, and I hope, I hope it shows.

Speaker 5:

I for sure think it's yeah, I agree with the sentiment towards Ryan as well. Great group of people here, man, and hey, big, big news. You guys. I want to Kind of bug the new, the newbie that just hopped up on stage. It's always so exciting when someone comes through to a book time and I just hopped in. It looks like the battle bunnies are about storytelling and there it seems like they're here part of the blockchain, if, if I'm not incorrect, maybe, maybe, not battle bunnies.

Speaker 5:

Welcome to our book time. We have Edward, who wrote this, this monster of a novel that we just finished. So this is actually our, our last space with Edward, who has been on our shows with us talking about each chapter as we go Through it. It's been amazing. So that's kind of what we're doing here in this space, but I'd love to know what you're about and Just say thank you, for I always love to thank anyone for coming up onto our stage. We love any, anybody who participates, even if you're not reading along. So how, how are you? Who are you? What are y'all about? It's great to see someone Care about some storytelling and this. This seems like you might be interested in what. What we're doing here with our book time. Maybe there's a fit. What's up?

Speaker 3:

Hey man, yeah, like to be honest, it caught my eye. I was just scrolling through to see what spaces were cracking along and I seen I seen the pandemania like hosted it, and I'm like I've been in spaces with these lads before. Alright, I'll check it out. And then I seen the bamboo book time. I was like I like this, it sounds good. So I just I was just really just coming up just to say what's going on here, but you kind of answered it for me anyway with the last speaker and yourself just now. But, um, yeah, we've got a community written novel in our In the battle bunnies too. So I was like I was resonating with and I was like sweet book time, I'm gonna come take a listen.

Speaker 5:

That's awesome. Hey, how, how fun. Thank you for for coming up on stage and Great introduction. I love your accent too. That's that. Where's your accent from? That's a cool accent.

Speaker 3:

I'm from Australia, oh.

Speaker 5:

Man, I've always wanted to be Australian. I've never been, I haven't even gone, and I've just always thought Australians are so badass.

Speaker 3:

I think, I think, and then we all think the same thing about like you Americans and stuff. It's like anywhere. That's not where we are, we just want to be the opposite.

Speaker 4:

You know don't let me in with the Americans, right.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, canadian.

Speaker 3:

That's what. That was my go-to. I was thinking that in my head too, but I was like shit. I was like it's really quite if I just say American, it'll, it'll, it'll pass, but yeah, everywhere, like I've definitely Canada. I've got a really good mate that's in Canada and he came to Australia for it was like five years. Then he had to go home because I'm health issues and I still talk to him every single day and then I want to go there just as much as he wants to come back here. It's, it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 5:

Man, that's awesome. It's great to have you here with us. Well, I'm excited to look more into what you've got going on and please feel free to raise your hand or speak up. We we have a big book that we just read. So some of us Got through all the readings. Some we're struggling to keep up with, you know, the holiday season, so we have a few different categories of people, but we're we're excited to kind of talk about the, the book as a whole, because we did come to an end, to an end. But it'll be exciting to see if you have any thoughts or input. So please, please, feel free to Join in the conversation, for sure.

Speaker 3:

When some foot for the record, when's the next? Because you just finished a book now, right? So yes, when you next one, when, when you're doing your next one, how does that work? If someone knew coming in like me right now, how do I get involved? Like what are we? Where we at?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, so this is all kind of wrapped into our NFT project. We have perk of health and fitness perk and within that there are books and we just keep adding to the list and so to make it, you know, you Get some participation and have fun with each book, we we decided to do a little book club just Mondays and Wednesdays at 11 pm Eastern Standard Time. We've been doing our book club now we are probably going to take a little bit of a break between now and the neck, the new year, when we start our next book, and that, yeah, we're just kind of at like an interim Period before we start the next book, but we usually, you know, take like a couple weeks off and then jump right into another book. Mondays and Wednesdays. Yeah, good question. Thank you, sir.

Speaker 3:

And also do we have a lineup of books ready to go? So what is there? Is there somewhere where I can go to read to see what books next? Have you got them coming up next? Or is it kind of spontaneous, or how does that work?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it's been really fun to kind of Play around with what, what the system is and we all this. You know we've done a few fiction. We started off with a bunch of self-help type books. We did some fiction and now we as a whole we were all like, oh you know what, let's try a financial self-help book. So that's kind of the next, the next one up at bat and the next one after that. I'm pretty sure we'll kind of get a feel if we we want to get back into some fiction again. But yeah, the lineup is kind of open at this, this moment, other than Probably like a rich dad, poor dad type book for this next round.

Speaker 3:

Yo don't, man. I love the concept man, that's sick as.

Speaker 5:

Thank you, thank you and I love, I love that saying sick as someone said that that spent a lot of time over in Australia and it took me a minute to like Get to like understand the concept of that saying but it's, it's sick as I love that.

Speaker 3:

Well, it always trips me out to when I'm speaking, because obviously we we do have the same English, but it's different. So when I say stuff, people are like what the fuck did you just say? And once I explain it they're like, oh, that makes sense. But I don't realize how backwards we are over here until we actually hear you guys speaking and talking.

Speaker 5:

I love that. I love that. Well, it's certainly nice to have you here and to have your personality. Already it's been been a great addition. We're just a group of yeah, we love books with. Some of us are dads and we have a pretty awesome little consistent audience that comes around and we try to get everyone up on stage. But we really appreciate listeners also. So we have a good time and, yeah, we, we have a pretty good consistent Little speaker panel up here that comes through. We're missing a couple of the consistent might man. I was excited to hear his take on the book. He was really up to date. But, yeah, all all the people that come through it's, it's a great little group.

Speaker 5:

And I want to get to Dap and Dave. I'm still on intros here. I haven't we haven't even gotten to like the the content of the show. I just wanted to catch up with everyone, but it's been great because everyone's kind of giving their their takes so far along the way. So, dave, how are you bro? Dave, david's actually my real life good bro, by the way, great to have you. Thanks for thanks for hopping on. We all miss you when you're not here.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, good to be back. I last week was insane so busy, and it's good to be back tonight and join the fray. Fun to see everyone here online. I Like, I say and I mean I love coming back and hearing all of your colorful personalities, sometimes with some colorful language, that's okay. Hey, that's life and I just I love all the color for personal personalities. Man, it's awesome. You know, I think Ryan said it. Well, it's just fun. Come on jumping into this group of friends that we you know we're online friends, but it's fun, it's cool. And happy holidays to you too, ryan, and Everybody all the listeners, the speakers. I feel you as Sparky. It's the holidays is that added pressure of Grabbing more money, more time. You know, finding that balance between earning more money and Still spending time with loved ones, and it's a balancing act. Oh and, and welcome battle bunnies. That's awesome, it's fun to have you on.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, man, you know it's always a little bit daunting jumping into random spaces and talking, but you guys have made a great. You guys have made it feel super welcome. Man, thank you so much for that.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, Well, battle bunnies, that's, that's Pandemania. That's my brother, my real life brother, lane. He, he's so good at that, he rocks these. I mean I think we can all agree that Lane does such a good job. And and seeing these and bringing the co-hosts you know, right now you see Sparky and Ryan or co-hosts, all the guys that Basically run this together it's so well done and I mean that. I mean I Mean that in a huge mic drop way.

Speaker 5:

Ah, dave, you're gonna start upsetting Edward here pretty soon if we get too mushy and kind to each other. Yeah, it's great to have you. I gotta, I gotta, ask you the question. I know right, did you? I gotta break the break the serious question out here. Did you have a chance to get through to the end of the book?

Speaker 2:

Sadly, no, been so insanely busy, from finishing basketball coaching of my kiddos to my insane new church thing. That so busy and and work. I mean, oh man, not to have excuses, but this is one of the busiest periods of life right now. You know what I mean. I Totally feel Sparky with. I Should have taken Sparky's idea and read the ending because you know I'd have an inkling of.

Speaker 2:

But don't worry, not to worry, because my memory is short. I'll forget everything that said tonight. I will, because when I go back to read I dive in and I get so immersed in the story that I I Just track with it and I forget a lot of the stuff that said, really, maybe because the mind forces that you know, I don't know what it is, but when you're reading you start to track on your own and maybe you'll remember tidbits. But, like with the last book by Edward, it was awesome. The what's the name of the burning house? It was an amazing story. I just can't remember the title. See, see, I'm proving my point. My memory is a little bit short, so think it was called running man.

Speaker 2:

Running. See, that's it, that's what it? Was. But you know, same with the last book, running man, winters, the I. Yes, thank you, winter's Eve. I finished it after the fact, but I didn't, I didn't remember a lot of what was said until it kind of came to a head at the end. And then I'm like, oh yeah, that's what they were talking about, and so I'm not worried, like, say, whatever all the spoilers my memory short, I'll forget I'll, I'll come do it again at the end and yeah, so no worries, hey, that's all.

Speaker 5:

Go ahead, battle bunnies.

Speaker 3:

No, I was gonna say, when you're doing this sort of stuff, anyway, everyone's got their own Interpretation of what's happened and what's happening. So I don't think there's any right or wrong answer. And if someone gives you what they may feel is alpha, it may not be even alpha for you when you're reading the book because, like you said, you try it off into your own little thoughts and if the book's good enough, you end up, you know, immersing yourself, like you said, into it. Where you're, you're thinking of different scenarios. I know I definitely do that, that's for sure.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, absolutely great point. Yeah, and I think you'll have a Good enough time with. It's so hard with this amount of content in this book, this novel, that it will. We definitely won't get to all the details and bring up all the like Moments, like it's hard to get to all those in these spaces that we do. So this is definitely a good one where I mean I still I have some questions for Edward about the ending, like there's a lot to it.

Speaker 5:

So, yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna have a good time reading through it for sure. I mean even a few spaces back. If I were to listen to those spaces I'd be like, oh, that's right, that happened I. If I read through this one again, it would definitely be a good one to do a twice over because you'd catch so much, so much, so many details again. I don't know, sparky might be the type that could get through it and have all the details memorized, but I might have to go through a couple times this, this content, to catch all the details and stories. And yeah, it was a good one.

Speaker 3:

So did you say Edward wrote this, they wrote these books, or is it all thorough?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, edward, tell, tell him we we've read three. Well, no, this was. This was the second one from Edward, but yeah, we were on number two here and he's got some other works In the pipeline. And yeah, edward, tell him how it's been being on these spaces listening to us critique your work.

Speaker 6:

I actually have Sparky. He's the one who wrote the book. I just pretend he's my ghost writer, but yeah, he he just he wants it like just critique my book, but at the end it's really him who wrote this and he's just he's shit, not his own work, and he just wants you know, he wants the recognition, but yeah.

Speaker 3:

Honestly, guys, I love the concept. I'm not gonna say it again Just cuz I was. It's just kind of cool to me right now. Not only we're doing book week, but we get to talk to the author and it's themselves Sparky like come on.

Speaker 4:

I'm not. I'm not actually there. Edward's the other. He's pulling your leg.

Speaker 3:

I don't care who's the author is. No, the authors in the building, right, the author's in the building. It's the main thing.

Speaker 5:

You guys Confusing the new guy. But yeah, no battle Seriously.

Speaker 3:

I'm now trying to think. Even the author, or a spark, is your thought or am I either way on, you got me, you got me, I'm sold.

Speaker 6:

I've never written a book in my life plot twist it was, it was me the whole time.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. The battle buddy it. It's really been such a cool experience to have Edward on with us and he's so brave to do this and it's not like We've been biased or nice to nice. Sparky comes in here swinging sometimes like I'm kind of the nice guy. That's just like I fucking love this story and Like there's there's just a bunch of us that like we really give our thoughts and Edward takes him and he's like thank you guys, that was some good stuff. And here's my reasoning and my thoughts behind this and this is kind of why I went this direction and this is what was going on in my life at this time and to have that it's really remarkable. It's been an insane awesome experience.

Speaker 5:

Dap was actually the first one that Got Xander, our first author. We read a couple of his books and then Edward was like yo, I'm up, read mine, these are gonna, you're gonna love these. Because Ryan found Edward and got him Wrapped into our space. So it's been a really, really cool kind of progression of events and little Domino effect of getting getting to you know some really awesome stories. This last story was about a Colt and a super like Species that came from outer space and was a part of, like, the whole creation from the beginning of time and Evolution. And we got fish, people like this last story was Crazy off the wall amazing Deaths left and right. There was some gore, for sure we had some some in the end it was total, utter bullshit.

Speaker 5:

But no, it's just been awesome to get you know, to be able to peer inside of Edward's brain and be like, wow, edward, you, you're kind of deep bro, you've got a lot of good ideas, like it's been really impressive. We were kind of showering with him with some praise earlier, just that it's, it's blown our minds. And if you had this book in front of you that we just read, it's what 700 pages, see, almost 800 pages. And we read another one before that and that one was about a haunted house and crazy dreams type story and a psychological thriller and it's just been a really really awesome Experience and, just like you said, to have the author here with us. It's, it's really really stupendous. So I can't, I can't thank Edward enough.

Speaker 6:

I gotta say, man Jet GPT has been really swinging it up there and I love everything it's done. Without that I don't think I would have been able to publish this book. So thank you, chat GPT, thank you Leonardo AI, thank you all the robots out there.

Speaker 5:

I'm just, we know the truth, we know when you wrote this shit and we know that you can't get away with those.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we can look at the publishing date you know.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, now we know. Now we know your secrets going forward, though, no, I'm just joking, I, I just, I think you've got too good of an imagination. You'd plug things into the robots, they spit something out and you'd start tweaking it anyways. So I think you've got too much of a vision to let to let anyone have control. I don't know. What do you think?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I don't know. The one thing about me is I don't think I'd ever like I use like AI stuff for like doing artwork and stuff, but I don't think I could ever like Take like like steer the wheels with my writing and stuff. I'd rather have the grammatical errors in the. You know just the debauched Writing before I take jet chat GPT. I don't know. I just I'm not a, I Don't know. I don't even know where I was going with that. I had chat GPT write up a script and this is what it gave me to say, so I do apologize.

Speaker 3:

You just taught that in chat BT and that's what they got you to say we totally relevant. I've got a question for you, edward, if you came Um, what's it like? Obviously, have you ever done anything like this before, where you've done storytelling over, like in a medium like this? And what's it like, with such a different opinions People have and having them right here in front of you, like how do you take that? I Mean.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, like the only opinion I think I have when I first was writing was my mom's, so it was Huge difference. When you, you have my dad, sparky, here, you know, tell me that I'm not doing so well with the writing, but I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I just Do you change? Do you change what you do and what you think because of what a critic says, or do you just continue to do what you love and it you know if you're writing how you want to write it, or do you take on board what the community per se Interested in? Or do you just Write a book how you want to write it and then people either love it or they hate it?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I kind of just I kind of rate and I mean with with this one I've we've gone through the ideas I've come up with, like some ideas myself now through books and further. So Definitely hearing critiques is great and it does help, but I don't know, I like the idea of writing my own story and not like people don't like it. They don't like it. You know I'm not.

Speaker 3:

I think ultimately that's where we get the best result anyway, when, when artists have free reign on what they want to do, we usually get the best product. So I was just curious to hear Obviously, because every artist obviously is going to be different every and every author and every whatever we ask, you know we asked a million questions, we're gonna get a million different answers. But now I was just intrigued to see how this may affect you going forward. Or it's just gonna be it sucks because I haven't read the book so I can't contribute as much, but I'm definitely gonna jump in on the next one so I have more of an opinion.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, for sure, man, I'm working on the third one now. In between the crypto world and this, it's been kind of put on the back burner a little bit. But I'm hoping now, since I've, you know, ended one of the projects we were working on today, I might actually free up some time now. But, um, yeah, I mean it's. I Know I like the idea of being able to, you know, write what I want to write, not be told how to write my books.

Speaker 6:

Obviously, I try to be, you know, sensitive in what I write. I mean, I'm not just gonna, you know, write anything. But there are times when I like to have both sides of a character, because I mean, nobody's perfect. But, you know, when you look into perspectives of characters, I think that's what intrigues me the most is just, I Look at someone I perceive in one way and somebody else may perceive them another, and I like the idea of being able to, you know, have this, you know, gray middle of a character where they're not perfect but they're also not, you know, an asshole, or they're not as bad as they may seem, and I like that idea because I think that's real storytelling. I don't like the whole like one character is perfect, like I feel like everyone needs to have flaws in order to really have a solid character.

Speaker 3:

I love it when people say that perfect thing. And people aren't perfect, and I don't like to make them perfect, but some people, like me, look at someone and go down that shit is perfect. So something is perfect for everyone, no matter what. I think everything is perfect in the right Right spectrum or something, that kind of thing of the real world, some kind of making the shit up as I go. But it's true, though. Like when you look at something that someone says I it's not perfect, you think, wow, that's perfect. I don't have random, random.

Speaker 5:

No, I like that. I like that. That's. That's art. You know, art, I feel like as long as it can bring out some kind of emotion, it's, it's good art. But what someone interprets that to be is completely different and it changes from person to person. I love that.

Speaker 5:

And, edward, I got to say that you've been, you've been really really humble with taking, taking, you know, constructive criticism, but at the same time, I've really loved with this book how you've really just kind of stuck to the fact that this was a little bit different of an experience for you. You dove into characters really heavily and wanted to really expand on their stories and you've you've really been proud and happy about that with this book. And so I love the good, equal balance of like humility but also just sticking to like what you love and it's like, yeah, but I just loved this one. So you know what I mean. Like I really love that confidence in and and I just love to see people thriving and being happy doing art and doing things they're passionate about, and I love that part of the story with this book.

Speaker 5:

I had kind of a question Now, knowing that we've read through this one and Winters Eve and this next book that you have coming up is would you still recommend Winters Eve as kind of the go to, for getting introduced to your writing, or what? How do you feel about that now that you have multiple books in your quiver, you know?

Speaker 6:

I mean, yeah, definitely, I think it would be a great introduction, like if, if you enjoy the grammatical errors from the first one, I think you can really plug through this one better. But yeah, like, besides the issues that we've discussed with the first one, I don't know, I thought it was a, it was a great story because I stuck everything to this one kind of story and built around it, whereas with this one I I let the characters kind of tell the story and I thought it was. It's in the end, the books are all going to line up, like like I've said before, so it's probably better to read the first one and then the second one, but I want each one to kind of tell their own story and be something completely different. If that makes sense, it's like you can read either one, but if you want to kind of have the full story read from the beginning, I like that.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I think that I'm just going to chuck in some sorry, real quick, real quick.

Speaker 3:

I'm just going to shoot off and I want to quickly tell a couple of my friends what's going on here and then I'll be back. I was just just letting you know that I'm not just dipping out. I actually am super excited about this space. I think it's sick. So I'm quickly going to go jump into the VC that I left to come check out this space and tell them yeah, it's the real deal and I'll be back, all right.

Speaker 5:

Hey, I appreciate that. Thank you so much, my friend.

Speaker 6:

And hopefully we'll be doing financial books. He'll never come back.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 6:

We want to go strong on the next one. Man, like we got to hunger games or something, I don't know. Man, we can't disappoint him, yeah.

Speaker 7:

I was going to make a comment about that, actually how it's we're going to be making quite the drastic shift in our book here, if that you know, because we've been on this last couple of novels and it's like I wanted to make the comment that I think we might want to do that continuing as well, because I was fighting myself mixing up some of the books together with the storylines off of memories, like we have it, that was the wrong book. I got to go back and make sure, and sure as heck, you know I'm like, oh, that's right, cause they were kind of like similarities, right, so it was fun. That was so fun to be like wait, what book am I thinking about when I'm sharing with other people? Or if I'm like trying to go back on something? Wait, so that was fun, you can always tell when Ryan's baked.

Speaker 1:

I haven't got to do that, no really so I thought it was all the time.

Speaker 6:

So maybe we should like get to the story and what happened and stuff, or do we?

Speaker 5:

know I'm good with that, for sure. Yeah, we still haven't heard from that we just take it, let's start.

Speaker 6:

Let's take off.

Speaker 4:

He's got a bunch of sick people in his house and he's helping them. So he said he said to let you guys know.

Speaker 5:

Okay, so I was just feeling bad that we were keeping him silent over there. So no, I completely agree, edward. Let's get talking about the ending and the book, and I have some questions with why don't you start, edward? What would you like to? Where would you like this to go?

Speaker 6:

Well, does anyone want to kind of briefly discuss what happened in the last parts, like we typically kind of start the book up, or did you guys do that when I was gone? I had a phone call when I left.

Speaker 5:

I'm pretty excited to hear from Sparky what he thought about the ending and to be honest, Sparky, you might have it more fresh and well organized. I might have to be flipping through some pages to kind of fumble my way through it, but I have some questions so I'm confused a little bit. So I'm excited to hear maybe Sparky's take. He said that he he did skip forward through a little bit so that he could catch the ending and I have a feeling he probably can nail it better than I can.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I said it from the beginning everybody dies and Claire was Luna. So just if it is, everybody dies and Claire is Luna.

Speaker 6:

But so, in other words, sparky was right.

Speaker 4:

Yet again.

Speaker 5:

Sparky, get out of here. I love that. I love that you threw us off.

Speaker 6:

That's all he cares about. Is that he?

Speaker 5:

was right If I felt so good for Sparky in that moment, though, because I was just like, oh damn Edward, he not only did he like throw me off, I really believed it but he was really like I can like go back in time now with during those spaces where you're probably just smiling and you're like, ah, sparky doesn't know, he's actually right. I loved that. That was so fun for me, yeah.

Speaker 4:

So everybody dies. Claire turns out she's not Claire. Claire is a fake personality that she put on. She's actually was it Diana, the dead child, and somehow she's older than her sister. Her sister stopped aging. I didn't catch that. I didn't know if that was explained, why she looks older and why her sister stopped aging. But she basically used the shapeshifter guy who was the fish dude to poses her much like he posed as her mother and several other people while she controlled him throughout the years.

Speaker 4:

And the gist of the ending is they created a new God that was supposed to be the evil entity that now Morgan has to not Morgan, sorry that Sophia has to keep at bay and please. So she's now in charge of this new entity where the old mother is dead and Diana is now free to go live her life and be the good side but also be kind of at ease. The books kind of trying to be like about balance and good versus evil. Someone always has to keep evil at bay or evil satiated, but that's now falling on Sophia's lap. So that's the gist of that. I got out of the ending when I read the last little bit of it.

Speaker 5:

That was good. That was great. That helped me feel good about my reading and how I understood things and I kind of came to one big final question of like okay, so who the hell is the protagonist then? Sophia? Is it Sophia, Would we say that?

Speaker 6:

I mean, when I was writing it I didn't really have a protagonist. But if anyone would be, it would be Sophia. But the whole intention of the story was that every character was kind of their own protagonist.

Speaker 4:

Until they all died.

Speaker 6:

Now that whole until they all died. We don't know that Caleb Maria or Justin or Morgan actually died.

Speaker 4:

Well, there's no bodies, but the gist of it is that they're dead. That's the summation of the story. Nobody's seen them. Actually just like their physical dead bodies, though.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, and because they were immortal, the likelihood is they're not actually dead.

Speaker 5:

Okay, wait, are you maybe giving us some foreshadowing into some future stories in the next book, book four.

Speaker 6:

Not the next one, but book four. It's going to be those four characters trying to find Sophia.

Speaker 5:

What that's dope.

Speaker 6:

Oh, that's great, because there was just to me when I finished it. I did want to open it up to the idea that there's going to be more to this story, which is why I didn't want those characters to die and why they obviously all came back to life in some capacity. So that was an intentional kind of make it seem like they were dead. But they're not actually and I want to bring them into the fourth novel because the third one is going to happen a year before what happened in Keepers of the Late House and then those characters from that book will probably come into, like the fourth one, fifth one, later on down the road. But the whole idea is that I'm going to tie all these books together. A character that's going to be popping up in the next book is actually Dr Whitman. He's going to actually be helping our protagonist, Andy in this story. So I'm looking forward to how this story is going to progress.

Speaker 6:

And it was kind of funny because when I wrote Keepers of the Late House I always didn't tend to down the road, write a sequel to it.

Speaker 6:

I wanted to leave it ambiguous, kind of like Winter's Eve, but this one a little bit different, because I obviously kept several characters alive Kelly, the new baby, you know Diana's alive, still Sophia, and now whatever the hell our demon child is.

Speaker 6:

And the funny thing is I didn't know what the demon was going to look like until the end, when I realized who has been wearing this mask the whole time and it's like why? And I was just like what a brilliant idea that she foreshadowed what the demon would look like and that the whole point of the mask is to tame the beast. And I was like it came up to me like right at the end of the book and I was just like why did I not think of that? So yeah, that was, that was the intention of the whole mask. It was kind of foreshadowing the beast that would eventually come to fruition. The mother that everyone was seeing, or so called seeing, was actually Diana creating the monster from 10,000 Leagues under the sea. It was just her way of manipulating people to think that there was this actual deity and there wasn't.

Speaker 5:

Okay. So question Edward we didn't necessarily need to read Winterseve to get any context that was necessarily important for this book. Will any of the future books depend upon reading the other I guess predecessors to grasp the full understanding, because I guess I could watch Back to the Future 2 and still have a good time without watching Back to the Future 1 really to grasp the whole Marty McFly story you should probably start at the beginning and then you'll really they kind of do depend, but not really I don't know on that level. How dependent upon one another will any of your novels be?

Speaker 6:

You know I thought about that too and tried to make every novel kind of independent on its own. I don't know if I'll be able to do that with this, so I kind of do think you do need to read Winterseve and Keepers of Lighthouse to kind of get a better grasp of silent when that comes out. As you know, I'm bringing Dr Wip and back 10 years later after the incident for Winterseve. So he's much older and now he's finding another character in this book that has very similar characteristics to Evelyn, with the power to be able to see the dead. So I wanted to kind of bring him back because I think it's going to be really cool to give him kind of a redemption story, hopefully seeing how the last person died which he was trying to help, and now he's no longer going to be practicing as a psychiatrist but rather helping with criminal investigations as a psychoanalysis.

Speaker 6:

So I'm liking the idea. I mean, he's kind of like he's much older, he's kind of on the verge of retiring and you know he's looking out for this girl that just had a huge tragedy happen in the story. So I'm really excited for the next book. But yeah, I don't want to go into too much detail. I do think you kind of do need to read Winterseve and Keepers to kind of keep up with the rest of the story. But I don't know, I was kind of hoping that each story would kind of tell something a little bit different.

Speaker 5:

I love that. Oh, that's exciting, my friend. Okay, so what questions do you have for us? That's my question for you. What questions do you have for us after we read that book Are you interested in, are we curious if those characters are still alive and we are interested to kind of jump into something in the future. What is your ultimate goal, maybe at the end of this book? Or yeah, just what kind of questions are on your mind for us as readers?

Speaker 6:

Well, I really like that. Like Caleb, morgan, justin and Maria, they're kind of like they have a little bit of animosity, some more so than others. I mean, obviously, morgan's protective of her daughter, which you know Caleb was with. Caleb doesn't really know what's going on with Morgan. Is she good or evil? When you had Maria coming back, justin was obviously going through a lot of trauma and stuff and whether or not he should do what he was set out to do or not. So I feel like I really want to like change the script on all these characters and have them kind of trying to, you know, work together to figure out how to stop the apocalypse.

Speaker 5:

So that's great to have a little bit of animosity overcoming trials together, the whole like survivor effect of, you know, people being pissed off and hungry and dirty and tired and they're going to go through struggles together and friendship overcome. I don't know, that's exciting. I like that whole idea. That's cool.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I think it's going to be good because, I mean, you know, caleb and Maria have issues with Justin. Justin has issues with, like, morgan because you know he was in love with her. Now he doesn't know, and now he realizes that Maria was actually the one that was, you know, coming to his door all the time and she just kind of tried to kill him. I think it's going to be really interesting storytelling, if I can really like bang this together and put these characters kind of in a confined space and where they have to try and like work together to, you know, get out of a situation. But you know what I was going to ask. You know, one of the questions that I've brought up several times to everyone is who's their favorite character so far in the story as it is now. I think I've told you guys, maria is my favorite character. I'd love to know what everyone thinks. Lane, are you still a favorite favoritism towards Justin?

Speaker 5:

I was always. I was always really excited to find out what was happening with Justin, what his mood was going to be. On an entertainment level, I really had a good time with the ups and downs of Justin. As far as like, yeah, the characters who I actually genuinely like Maria was great, Caleb seemed like a pretty great guy. I don't know like there's some good, some good characters that, but in terms of like, when it came to Justin chapters, I was kind of drawn to him and whether he was going to explode or listen to the serpent or you know, manage his anger or I was always hoping for a good guy turnaround and so, yeah, I did enjoy from that aspect that. Yeah, probably my favorite character would be Justin in that aspect.

Speaker 6:

I mean, he had one of the biggest struggles at all the characters, I think, like just what he went through, you know, having, you know schizophrenia, or we, you know, at this point it was probably Luna the whole time, you know, controlling him since he was a kid, you know it's. It's kind of interesting to me to see, you know, even though he had the voices in his head, he still tried to resist them to the best that he could, and I think he I do have a soft spot for Justin, but yeah, obviously, you know Maria is my go-to. I was going to ask something else. What was I going to ask? So, yeah, sparky brought up. Why did Luna look older than Morgan? And the biggest reason behind all that is that Morgan was still, you know, drinking mother basically, and keeping herself youthful.

Speaker 6:

That's why, you know, you know, Claire looks a bit older is because, you know she wasn't, because if, if you were reading the chapters when Morgan was in the cell, obviously she was starting to look older as she wasn't getting, you know, from mother and mother was getting weaker. So I, the idea was that being away from mother made them older. It's the same thing with how, you know, dr Anna seemed even older even though she, you know, was so fit because she was starting to stay away from mother. Morgan was the only character to actually be close enough to mother to kind of, you know, continue that youthfulness. Also, mother is just like everyone else.

Speaker 6:

She's made the characters in her image, which is kind of something that I liked from you know, the Christianity and stuff, how God is made out of, like we're made from God's image. I like the idea of making her just seem like a normal woman, obviously the tubes and stuff that she was connected to, she was feeding the earth because she's actually mother nature. That was kind of the whole idea. I wanted to write with it that she was what gave life to the planet.

Speaker 5:

And correct me if I'm wrong, edward, but there was a whole like reveal that the parasite story was just that a story, a cover up of what actually happened, can you? That was one of my major questions. What's the actual, what's the actual doctrine there? How did that go down? It was, it was a council of sorts. I didn't. I didn't understand that that part exactly right.

Speaker 6:

I think it was just a story told to kind of by Luna or you know Diana, to make people believe that there was something beyond you know just just. It's kind of hard to explain because I didn't really make a full on story. I didn't really want to make a story of what Luna actually was or, sorry, luna, what mother actually was. I kind of wanted it to be kind of like a mystery, just like you know, god is a mystery. So telling the story of the whole like parasite, that was more of you know just Dr Anna, just being manipulated by you know Luna and being controlled, because I liked that story.

Speaker 5:

Oh, bum bum. That's not the truth, Dang it. I was going to join the cult, but I'm really reconsidering now, at this point.

Speaker 6:

You already have mother's blessings.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, well, and and you secretly know that I'm already in the cult you already got me hooked and you're like I could be telling us a false story right now.

Speaker 6:

But yeah, like the whole idea is that Diana has such a strong power and will over people that she can control them and bend them to her will and make them believe anything she wants. She made you know Trident, who was our fish fish dude. She made him, you know, bend to her will and use his you know his ability to shape shift as a prop for her to get out of so many situations. And like she used every single character. But the thing is that orb that she found was actually a piece of mother.

Speaker 6:

It's kind of like the negative energy of mother that was just bound into a ball and it it's pretty much what's feeding Diana after the whole Morgan falling in the well, which was why the whole well story was even taught and showed it was the reason to get Dr Anna to come back to the hospital by showing a story that she had seen happened to Morgan, which is why she was skeptical but also thought, you know, maybe Morgan's up to something and this is the way she's trying to like fuck with her mother.

Speaker 6:

So the whole point was Claire wanted to get her mother back to the hospital so she could kill her and she wanted to destroy this whole religion that they had, because they basically tried to, you know, have her mate with her brother. So she knew that she's also has this dark little demon inside of her as well. You know, the power to control people, I'm sure, has a very negative impact on a person's psyche having that kind of power as such a young age. So she made this whole plan to seek revenge on her mother for putting them in this situation, for making her have to mate with her brother in order to keep the so-called bloodline going.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I can see the. I can understand the anger.

Speaker 7:

And I mean I'm gonna say it again, Okay.

Speaker 6:

That's what happens back home. But you know, like if anyone's you know reading the story, they probably I don't know if you guys realize that Sophia's dad is actually Bruno and that Morgan was forced to go Go through that ritual later on and why she also is very bitter.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, those are good. Those are those. Details are big.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, so the whole idea was that, you know, in Anna couldn't have children because she was a God and because she had, she was able to have her children with a human. She thought, like, when her husband died, it was actually, you know, mother that did that to her. So she started working on a way to get rid of mother so that she could, you know, create while keeping the bloodline going, so she could live forever. But she also wanted to stop mother. So they had her kept in this, you know, building down below. So I don't know if I'm explaining this very clearly right now because there's there's a lot of moving parts. But, yeah, so in Anna, because she was a God, she was allowed to have children with other, without other gods. She ended up having it with the human and because of that, something awful happened in which, you know, the kids ended up having powers, they ended up doing things they shouldn't.

Speaker 6:

Morgan ended up showing off her powers. It caused a riot. That riot got one of the boys to go up and start, you know, trying to antagonize Diana. And then Diana used Morgan's power to kill the kid with the, or she used the horse story to kill the kid. And then, when Morgan and her father seen it, she used the power of Morgan to kill her dad. And then, of course, morgan got locked up because of what Diana did to her. All this spiraled out of control, making, you know, anna, paranoid that mother had done something because of her sin, but not keeping the bloodline going. Does that make sense? I don't.

Speaker 5:

That clears up a lot. Yeah, that last little bit. I needed that, bro, and that's not on your fault. I didn't rush through it or anything. I just needed to map it out. And yeah, there's a lot of details and there's a lot of stuff going on. So I just needed a good clear up session. And I'm glad you talked about the orb too. That was. My other major question was like what the what was the orb all about and what? What would have happened if the orb would have gotten destroyed or something? And was there any like? Was that important to like protect it from getting destroyed?

Speaker 6:

Or I had Well, the whole thing is, the orb is a part of, you know, mother's evil. It's a small part of her. So obviously she needed to shed that in order to, you know, be pure and good. Obviously she's, she's kind of like an outsider. She doesn't, you know, she just watches, she doesn't actually do. But in order for her to kind of not be evil, she had to remove a piece of her that became the orb. Now the orb has full knowledge of the whole universe, from start to finish. So when people touched it, they either died from touching it or they were able to see what was going on.

Speaker 5:

Okay. So it's just. It's just super powerful. I was. I was like wondering, is it good, is it bad? But it's just like some people just can't straight, can't handle it.

Speaker 6:

It's like a blast of truth to the brain and they just they can't handle it and you can see that both Leanne and what's his face I can't remember Zeke both of them had touched the orb and both of them went insane and you know Zeke was fully willing to let put himself on the line in order to continue the story that was played out for all of them.

Speaker 5:

Now did Justin? He touched the orb right.

Speaker 6:

He touched the orb. But I think he touched the orb, if I'm correct, when he had Mother's Power, I believe, if that's correct.

Speaker 5:

So does that? Does that have something to say about Justin, about his strength? Can only people with a certain level of fortitude touch it and survive? And whether they?

Speaker 6:

go evil or good, Like. Out of all the characters, he's the only one that had, you know, schizophrenia, so his mind has always been kind of out there. You know, he's always seen things a lot differently, heard things that no one else hears and, who knows, maybe the snake even though I just said it was actually Diana it could have been, you know, the voice of God for all we know and for all Justin knows. You know what I mean Like. So the whole idea was that, even though he had schizophrenia and this mental illness, because of that he was able to open his mind in a way that other people couldn't, and that's why he has the strength to be able to actually see through it and not want to end his life.

Speaker 5:

Good stuff, good stuff. Yeah, I think I have all my major questions answered. Ryan Sparky, dave, do you guys have any questions for Edward that have been lingering? Edward, do you have any more questions for us? I just had a good time with this one man. I'm bummed.

Speaker 5:

it's over to be, honest, I like these characters and I'm glad that they're going to be in another book because you got a good little squad here and I like the age range. They're young adults, they're fully capable of handling themselves. It's scary, makes me nervous. I yeah good. I've really really enjoyed it. So I'm really glad there's going to be some more books with these characters specifically.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I'm excited too. I've even considered because this happens a year prior. I've even considered maybe having a couple little cameos of characters from this book come in as well. Not sure if I will or not, but I like the idea that Dr Whitman did work at this hospital so he might even have a couple of flashbacks to kind of add more of a richer story. But obviously it needs to make sense with the story that I'm writing, so I can't just do it without an actual piece to the story. So I'm going to work this time around. I'm actually writing things out and plotting the story a little bit better.

Speaker 6:

I know that this book was kind of like I wrote it from the seat of my pants and I kind of went with the story. Because originally Morgan was supposed to be the villain of the story and the ending was actually supposed to be Caleb stopping Mother from doing what she had planned to do, which I can't even remember what I had her wanting to do. But because he stopped her, it unleashed Armageddon and it was supposed to be Morgan on the altar and then at the end of it, when he wins, she was going to stand up from the altar and he was going to realize that a lot of the hooded figures were all the different parents of the kids and his mother and father were going to be there as well. That was kind of like the idea I had going from the starting of the novel that I wanted kind of Morgan to be the villain, but I just I couldn't. When I was writing it I was just like I don't want her to be the villain. I want her to be the kind of character that obviously she isn't perfect but she obviously doesn't want to see them all die. Claire was actually supposed to be just kind of more of like an on and off character. That was just. I needed a nurse and as I was writing the story I just started thinking how cool would it be to have her actually be Diana. Diana wasn't even supposed to be in the story.

Speaker 6:

The way the story evolved was so interesting to me and I know it can feel a little out of the loop and maybe at times it was like where is this plot going? But I always wanted to have this whole kind of mind control in the story and I had no idea how to actually do that successfully without adding so much to it, so that it became believable in the end, like I wanted even the readers to believe how firefetched the story was, to just show how powerful Diana is. I think even the starting of the book I don't know if it's actually it is in my version the way the son is going in the direction when Caleb is driving with his parents is actually going the opposite direction of what it would naturally do, and the idea was that that actually wasn't happening to Caleb, because if Caleb actually did kill his sister, his parents would not be bringing him to the hospital. It would be police that would be bringing him to the hospital. So or an ambulance escorted with police, so the idea of having them there.

Speaker 6:

When I was writing the story later because I never really had an idea of what was going to happen until later on the story it didn't really make sense why he was with his parents if he had actually killed his sister. So I kind of just made it, I switched the direction of which way the son was going as kind of like a hint that this doesn't make sense and just a little tidbit to know that maybe the story isn't what it actually is going to be.

Speaker 5:

I like that typical Edward fashion. I have come to really enjoy your style and your stories and it's thrilling to me that this seems to be a lifelong goal of yours. I mean, you have these next ones lined up but in your mind, are you like going to be writing your whole life? Can you see yourself retiring and then still writing? Is this going to be something that you love? Is it a hobby? Do you have a certain amount of books that you want to have written, or what's like the ultimate goal? Do you think?

Speaker 6:

My goal was always to write one book a year. Honestly, I haven't been doing that because I started taking over a project that took over my life that was harder to navigate. But I also needed a break from writing that massive book and I don't think I'll write anything that big for a while. Maybe the last book of the five I'll do that and then maybe I'll start doing something completely different. Yeah, I think I only want to write books that are kind of as big as Winter's Eve, something that's condensed, tells the story, gives you some feel of the characters and makes you want to be a part of them, but at the same time doesn't drag on as long as it did. I do find. As much as I enjoyed writing Keepers of Lighthouse, I did find it dragged on.

Speaker 6:

At a point I'm pretty sure I even made the ending with Caleb killing Mother kind of maybe fell a bit flat because I was trying to finish the book. I wanted to actually make that a little bit more powerful. I think when I was reading I was like this kind of falls a little bit short. She's supposed to be this almighty creature and he just stabs her. I was getting tired at that point of writing the story. After spending a full year just at one story, I feel like there was a lot of stuff happening. I did want to write a bigger book than Winter's Eve, but I also realized that writing bigger books distracts people. After a while it cost a lot more to make, which I didn't realize that it was going to cost so much more to make. I could have wrote three books in that length of time. I have three separate, different stories out, but instead I chose to write a full book, if that makes sense.

Speaker 5:

I love it. I love it. I think it's pretty awesome that you writing the book, you get into this space and you meet Ryan. You get on this little book club. I'm not taking credit with the book club or anything for the token coming out, but isn't it kind of fun to think about all these little dominoes knocking each other over to actually turning into a Web 3 project of sorts? You've got LP. In a sense it's going to live on. We can all keep up to date on it. It will be a fun way to extend the memories we've had while we read the book. Give us a little update on mother the token and what you have planned with it. I'm really fascinated and excited about the fact that you turned this into a token. It blows my mind and I love it.

Speaker 6:

I didn't even think I could. When I was talking to Dapp about it I was just like, oh my God, I just made a token using the image you made for me. I was like, hey, you want to make more AI? He was like, absolutely. It started off as that. I know Dapp is super busy. Then we got somebody else named Lovecat that was just helping me make videos and stuff. It took its own life and it was so cool.

Speaker 6:

It started off as a joke just to see if I could actually make a token. At first I was learning how to program it and stuff on that. I was able to make a token on the dev nest and then realized that I don't know how to add the descriptions and the structure that way. Then I found a site that does it just easy without me having to do it. I made it and then it took a life of its own. I don't know. I am sad to say that, as of today, sweets will no longer be worked on. The team is all burnt out from the original. I can't see myself finding somebody else to really build the project now at such a low spot when I'm not in full control of that project. It didn't make sense for me to find another team and I really just can't do it on my own.

Speaker 6:

When we were making Mother as a joke, it took off. People got really interested. I have a lot of communities reaching out. Obviously they want airdrops and stuff like that, but they like the idea as well. They think it's different. I've had people that straight up bop the coin and have told me this is a cool idea and it's not being done. It's just the same kind of derivative of bunk franc, chunk punk People trying to make money, whereas this is written by the author, it's a token made based by the book, and now they're trying to tell a different story. I think I love that idea that I can take my rating and put it into a coin.

Speaker 4:

You want to hear something funny about it. One of these groups that I look at that does shit coins. There's some new coins coming out called Mom, mommy and all that shit. They just started today, but yours is Mother and it was the first. It's funny that now there's all these Mommy and Mom and other shit derivatives basically ripping off. They're higher but they're also shit coins that aren't really built off of anything. They're obviously going to pump and dump, but it's just quite hilarious to see these things on Solana as well.

Speaker 6:

I think it's going to be funny too. I might even do a post that there's only one mother and then put all these other projects there and have ours on the top. I think that's going to be a cool idea just to screw around. That's interesting. I didn't know that there was other people using that mother brand to make derivatives off of. I like that. Maybe we can be the bug of the Solana network.

Speaker 5:

That's awesome. You'll have to. Are you going to create one for each one of your novels?

Speaker 6:

No, I like the idea of just having this one token. I like the idea that mother doesn't follow people. You follow mother, she don't follow you. I like that she calls people little one in my child. I like the idea of just randomly posting videos on these influencers and telling them to be careful little one, I don't know. It's one of those things where it's funny. It's like I can be a troll, like I like to be, and also build on a narrative.

Speaker 4:

It's fun trolling with the scammers that come in and they're like do you want us to pump your coin for you? I had one the other night where nobody else was there. In the telegram I was by myself and the guy was like who's the dev? I was like you are. We had this whole back and forth conversation and me obviously reading between the lines and I'm like dude, your scam is old. We've literally heard it a thousand times by now. We've heard a thousand people come in here saying the same thing, asking for money, and we know well, if we pay you you're not going to do a damn thing and you're going to run with the money. He's like who has hurt you? We're not all scammers out here. I'm like yes, yes, you fucking are. We just had this like tete-a-tete and then I just banned him without a word and then deleted the whole conversation. Nobody even saw it.

Speaker 6:

I did not know that happened. I probably would have been laughing at that if I'd seen it. Sparky is so blunt in there and it's so funny. Elaine, you need to get in there because stuff Sparky says to people is just hilarious. They'll say who's the dev, can I DM the dev? And he's like why do you want to DM the dev? He's just so blunt, it's the funniest thing. There's so many times because I like to try and pretend I'm Luna in the telegram and there's so many times that I've broken character because I was just laughing at fucking Sparky, just grilling these fucking people. It's the funniest thing.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he's asking me to DM me. And he was like hey, can I DM you? Your privacy settings are set to not allow it. And I'm like no, they're not, anybody can DM me. And he's like I can't DM you. I'm like that's your problem. Clearly, people can DM me. My DMs are open. I've never closed them off. He's like well, just DM me, bro, dm me. And he kept saying bro, bro, bro. And I was just like first off, stop saying bro, nobody says it that much. And I was like and second, and I just went off and I was like shut up.

Speaker 6:

It's funny too when they call you sir. Oh man, they're driving nuts or they spell sir wrong, s-e-r. I just oh, I just like I wish I could reach through the phone and slap them. I don't. Whenever I see someone say sir, to me it's like it's a trigger at this point because I'm just like you are a scammer who says sir like that, like just 24? How are you sir? Yes, sir, thank you, sir. Can I have a moment of your time, sir? And it's always spelt wrong and I always just want to smack them.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that and bro for me. Bro is like a dead giveaway If they're constantly saying, bro, if you say it like once in a while, sure, but nobody out here just constantly goes bro, hey, bro, can I get that thing from you bro? How are you doing? Bro, I'm good, how are you Like? No, it's just stop with the bros. But we're giving, we're giving the scammers feedback so they'll take them, learn from it, even though they won't. You know they won't.

Speaker 6:

No, they won't, sir. They'll keep calling you bro or trust me. Oh my God, that's another one. When they're like they show you all these pictures that don't make fucking any goddamn sense and they're like look look at all the people that believe in me and it's like I don't know these people that believe in you. You could literally be having a conversation with yourself and sending people this oh, you're doing such an amazing job. You could have two phones doing that. You could have a separate phone going back and forth to counts. None of that's believable. I don't understand why they do that.

Speaker 4:

I'm a caller. No, you're not. I've never heard of you. I've been in the space for two and a half years. Never even seen your name before.

Speaker 6:

Who are you calling?

Speaker 4:

from Crypto investor. These people are hilarious and that's the one thing about being in any kind of project like this. Like I'm just an admin in the telegram I'm not even a part of the project, really, but just being in the telegram and seeing this shit, you see how bad it actually is out there, with scammers trying to like take advantage of people, and there are definitely founders out there that fall for it because they don't know any better.

Speaker 6:

Especially if you're new and starting off, I find like people are always wanting to help you and it's hard to differentiate sometimes who's actually wanting to help and who's in it for themselves. And I have people sometimes telling me like, oh yeah, this guy is actually good. And then I go to work with them and I'm like you're not doing anything, why are people recommending you? And then you start questioning all their relationships, because why were they telling you that it's hard to really find good people in the space and to actually build something with them?

Speaker 4:

That's one of the reasons why I tried not to get too involved with projects and too involved with shit.

Speaker 4:

Because of that reason, I've seen way too many influencers in this space that weren't influencers when they started out and they go down the path of becoming popular and then aligning themselves with projects and then the project being a rug because they took advantage of their friendship and then that person's name has now been dragged through the mud.

Speaker 4:

So it's like you really, as a person in this space, you really want to essentially pick and choose your degree of involvement in anything, and the higher up you become in any kind of project or popularity or any of that stuff, the more on eggshells you're walking, because it gets hairier and hairier and you're just like. I've even talked to some people recently about some other people that I've seen becoming more and more popular and I'm like they got to be very careful because they're getting to a point where they're starting to say, oh, I really like this project and I really like that project, and that's dangerous territory. So you really do have to be careful, just as even someone who's trying to help people out or like for me the articles that I've written not to be too, like this is a great project. You should buy this project because that's you're setting yourself up for potential like lawsuits and stuff where people are like you told me to buy this and they rugged it's your fault. So really gotta be careful. Sorry, I want to know tangent right there.

Speaker 6:

No, and that's good to know too, and I think I've come to realize that I don't want to go down that road. So I'm only going to promote the projects that I actually believe in, that I've actually like got to see the founders working and stuff, and I think that's the only way I'm going with this. Like, if I see a brand new project pop out of nowhere, like I'm not going to be like oh yeah, let's definitely buy this, unless I actually see work and I actually see a work ethic behind it. And even then, like you don't 100% know, because you know in a month or two they're probably gone as well.

Speaker 7:

Well, just so you know, I might have something for you not to waste money on. So be very easy, just to hold it in your wallet. It's beautiful. It's beautiful art Artists, is done with it, so it's ready. It's just a matter of me getting it out to you guys. So I'm just trying to figure out how to do that towards, like here, here you go, and it doesn't cost me a arm and a leg to get it out to everybody. But I'm excited to be able to share some of this artwork with you.

Speaker 7:

And it's been a journey to, you know, needless to say, find a way of direction, you know, because, like being a project or being an artist, or being an individual, just helping, you know, and it's like this is just like a gift, a gift from me to you, and then, whatever direction it goes which that's the beautiful thing it's not going to be something to worry about, you know, and my artist is, he's all of. That's what he wants. He wants his art out there, right? So it's like it's just neat to be able to figure out those directions, to meet those friendships and to know who to like, say hey, this guy deserves it. You know, it's like, it's more or less like you can like, build yourself a club or build yourself a friendship or build yourself enemies right, and it's your way of understanding which way to go to deciphering that. And that's why I always give hats off to Lane is because he's done such a well job of holding on to all those hats throughout these this course of the time that he's been out here with this project, because, you know, it's not just any project, it's also business that's backed up by business aspects and that's the beautiful thing that a lot of people I think oversee when they do do projects and looking to get in into projects. And that's kind of been my you know seat backbone of trying to understand how to successfully beat all of those hats. And Lane is definitely one of those individuals as a project founder and a great individual in the space, as well as being true to those things and being a great individual just giving and helping them.

Speaker 7:

So it's not easy and hats off to that and I'm looking forward to our next endeavor of our financial well being or financial help. How the heck. I don't honestly feel like anybody's got the best, but I can't believe, because there's so many different things in this world, that we can put our toes into and surround ourselves with, like to use, like conquest with him, and the shoes and the donkey kicks. I just admire him with his admiration for it and just need to see that flourish. So you know, everybody's got a focus. Just get it out there, put your head down to the ground and get to it and you know, I think, what we're going to be starting the new book in the new year, right, are we going to be starting before? Because I don't think we even have got any books up for boat yet at all, have we?

Speaker 5:

or, yeah, I think we're going to wait till the new year. It's officially Panda Cub drop season, so this will be a perfect, perfect little timing. I've been saying coming 2023 for how many months now, and so it's really coming down to the very end of 2023. So this is just great timing to have like a little official break and so any spaces we have going on in the meantime, we'll really be focusing on the Panda Cub. So we're just going to hit the hit the gas on Panda Cubs and so, yeah, just be on the lookout maybe for some random little pop up spaces here and there, and I'll be doing some giveaways and drumming up some excitement for this, for this airdrop coming soon. We've got what? 11 days that I've got here, and so it's all ready, I'm ready to hit the go button on that. So, yeah, that that'll be our next couple of weeks here.

Speaker 7:

So exciting. I can't wait for that Everybody's. I've been seeing some posts lately of the merch to which you know guys, go check that out. I'm gonna make myself over there and I don't think you'll get here with some time at Christmas, but definitely going to. I was one of those sweaters for my daughter. I know she was saying how cute the Panda logo is on the shoes and that's kind of my vision is to go grab one of those. And is that? Is that platform when you? What are the payment options? Is it through Shopify? Is it sure through shop pay? How does it work through that?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, you'll have different options there to pay, just different credit card options.

Speaker 7:

That's exciting, you know, and I think you just got that going to, which is really neat to see that happen. And also you've made a post earlier about the sponsorship with the profits shindig that she had. You want to share a little bit about that, lane.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I mean it wasn't like in terms of like, did we get any eyeballs out of it? Probably not Just just to start getting my foot in the door with different, different things happening. I've never really made an attempt to to you know, quote unquote be at these events. You've got NFT NYC, you've got Art Basel. You've got all these things going on that like these NFT people kind of mark as like these main events each year and a you know our community is small. When I think of events, I'm thinking of next summer, that Panda getaway that I'm planning, where it's going to be really intimate and I'm going to be flying people out, because I just understand how hard it will be realistically for most of our community to gather at these events. And I don't know how much of you know party animals a lot of us are. I honestly get kind of exhausted even thinking about going to an event like that nowadays. So it was. It was just kind of a fun way to like oh hey, I hear you got something going on. Any way, I can be involved. So I just wanted to kind of see if it was possible to get get our logo at something going on over there, and so that was kind of fun and I was really happy that our little logo if you look close it's real small on there but yeah, she did give us a shout out. So I didn't do anything major, I just sponsored basically some free drinks. People probably didn't even know that we're taking advantage of that, but it got my foot in the door with some contacts and that's mostly what I'm trying to do with the community and fill people out also.

Speaker 5:

You know what I mean it's. It's really really hard. It's fun listening to Edward and Sparky talk about that, this space and just who to trust, who to put your money behind, who to you. Know it's. It's the wild, wild west and you will get your heart broken just left and right by people in this space because you know, I think for the most part we're a group of like real life people with families and like I don't know, like some people are just like what the hell did you just do to me? Are you? You're not human. The humans don't do that shit to each other. What, like I don't know. You will come across that time and time again. So I definitely kind of put my feelers out there, out there with that Because honestly, there's really not a lot of voices in Web three that I'm like do you like, do I?

Speaker 5:

So I don't know. There's there's even like experimentation and stuff. But for the most part you come to kind of realize, like a lot of this Web three stuff, there's a lot of rigged stuff going on and what you see isn't really what, what you get and what you know you'll. You'll get people up on a stage ramping up a project and they got paid to do it and that they're all just rug and I don't know. It's just a really interesting space. And so, yeah, I'm definitely not tossing sponsorships like that out left and right just because there's not a lot of opportunities to like work with real individuals.

Speaker 5:

But yeah, that that seemed like a really good case of like hey, real life event. It seems like it's really going down and I was. I was actually really impressed with the party thrown. It looked like a really good time. I was like, oh damn, maybe I, maybe I should have gone down. They had like a weed cannon gun and everything Break dancers, and so, yeah, it looked like a pretty good time and I'm really, I'm really glad I ended up reaching out and making that happen and so maybe in the future we'll make real life events at those things. But man, it's just that I need like a two year calendar event planned out to like make things work with with my life. So making it to parties and events like that is really kind of out there for me. But yeah, thanks for thanks for bringing that up. That was fun.

Speaker 5:

Ryan, I'll have to start giving you guys details about our pan to get away this next, this next year I'm thinking late summer and I'll get, I'll start getting details out there because, yeah, those party events that just seem so exhausting, our little getaway I'm hoping to be kind of peaceful and, yeah, just a good, good time for someone my age group. So some of you might think that's boring, but no, I'm going for kind of a different vibe for any events that we're actually putting together or throwing, and I'd really like to make our first one real special and that's going to be kind of starting to creep into the language. I'll start explaining the panda cubs and why, why people want to hang on to those and why they'll want to get the original collections and yeah, that that yearly I want to make that an annual getaway where there's just a few of us and anyone's invited and I'll I'll, you know, compensate for different ranks, roles, categories of that sort. And, man, I'd really love to just get together Just a few of us. Would be amazing, it'd be so cool. So, yeah, I've definitely got plans for the real life events, but, yeah, don't, don't think it's going to be anything looking like the weed cannon event. I've got some calmer, a little more 30 to 40 year old age range activities planned out. But yeah, my friends, I just want to thank everyone for another great round of bamboo book time. I'm going to bring this back to keepers of the lighthouse.

Speaker 5:

I just have to note one of my favorite parts of this whole book, maybe because you've really been ramping up this marketing with the mother token, but the very last line of the book, I just loved it. Ever they're there. My sweet child mother is here. That was so great. I loved that. That ended on that and I love that we've now got a token to kind of rally behind and I'm excited to stay up up to date on that. And and I've got to maintain my friendship with you in the space. And what a great, what a great opportunity we have after reading a book that we can maintain friendship through the web three space now. So that's awesome. I feel like Xander. He was a friend for a minute and now he's out of my life and I feel like that's not going to happen with you, edward, or is it? Don't break my heart and and leave me. That's why I have to get involved in mother also, so that I can maintain friendship with you.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, after this I'm going to have to start playing badminton in between the air times, so I don't think I'll be able to make any spaces for the foreseeable future. Badminton is just a number one for me right now, so, and I'm staying up late just to get ready to play badminton. So I do apologize. Come on, lane, you know I'm sticking around, brother. I've been, I've been bad ass.

Speaker 5:

actually, I love badminton.

Speaker 6:

Maybe we'll have to go a few rounds Lane's, like you know what. Let's just end the space and start going to badminton. We'll start our own badminton team. Bamboo badminton book time team.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, if we do a live Twitter space about it, you're just going to hear me huffing and puffing and, out of breath, out of shape, running around playing badminton.

Speaker 6:

Wonder where the back door is.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, exactly I can't. I won't be able to control any sexual innuendos that come out of my mouth, for sure, playing sports.

Speaker 7:

That was so perfect way to word it right there.

Speaker 6:

That's great, but you know I'm going to hold on to those pandas, for I, you know, if anything is, I've sold like some of my stuff.

Speaker 6:

I thought that my contract was going to be up recently and where my license wasn't what do you say, wasn't accepted or activated for next year, I was a little worried that I wasn't going to be able to work in BC and have to go back home and have to take a few months off. So I sold a lot of my NFTs and the ones that I just I could not sell. There were the pandas. I just I couldn't and I don't think I ever will. Those are just too precious to me and I think the fact that you gave them you know you bought one and gave it to me I just it meant the world to me and I don't think I could ever, you know, sell it. I don't. I think it's going to be one of those things that you know that I'll lose the wallet before I'll sell it, like I'll forget the dab key and it'll just it'll be there tucked away somewhere for all eternity.

Speaker 5:

Well, hey, that those? That's awesome. I want you to know you can always do what you need to do. I tell that. I tell that to everybody. I'm always excited about any kind of come up and however it helps in your life. But man, that right there probably scorches some karma points. Make sure you enter any giveaways. I promise you, bro, this has happened a lot of times. People who told me that they're like oh, I made it another month. I was this close to selling my band. I've been telling you that and I'm like hey, you bought yourself some karma points and they win one of those giveaways. And they're like Yo, hey, that money I needed. That's, that's what's up. So make sure you enter those giveaways, because then you'll be like I wouldn't even be able to sell it anyways.

Speaker 6:

God damn, fees are like $80. What the shit? What's going on with Ethereum guys? Why can't you be Nichols and and like half a cent to do a transaction? What is up with $60 transactions?

Speaker 2:

Yeah that's not that special.

Speaker 6:

There's nothing. There's nothing going on. Why? Why are you charging me so much? I could buy a pair of sneakers, man, like that's Canadian, that's like $300, man, I don't know what's going on over. I mean, figure that out.

Speaker 5:

Oh boy, I always, I always have, two years ago, that bull run to go back to, though, and remember those gas prices to always feel bad. Oh God, those are harsh for me. Bad, it was so bad, oh my God, that's why I'm staying Right.

Speaker 6:

People still invest in a project that the gas fees will only get more expensive as the value goes up, like Solana is still, even though the price is up to like what is close to like $85 now.

Speaker 7:

Bro, we're right there, we're still fractions of a cent.

Speaker 6:

We're still fractions of a cent.

Speaker 7:

It's adding up, though, like imagine when it does get up to like $1,000 for one Solana, you know.0005 is that standard traction.

Speaker 6:

People are going to be like oh my God, I'm giving off a Solana because it's still a fraction of a cent.

Speaker 7:

I think they will optimize it, because there was just a actually statement about that composing the and getting the transaction fees down to a smaller, smaller amount, so to like.10 of you know decimals. So it's way, way down there.

Speaker 6:

But what's funny now is happening is that the price of Solana is going up, but people's NFTs prices are going down because everyone's selling their NFTs and they're going to get on the Solana, which is funny, because they didn't, their value would still be higher. The people in Solana are just weird. They are very weird.

Speaker 3:

I think it's the fee.

Speaker 6:

I think it's the no fear of gas fees that make people in Solana so weird, because like we don't give a shit, like everything's free, it's free to do transactions. Basically, like you could do a thousand transactions, you might get to $5 after a thousand transactions, like it's just a weird, you know.

Speaker 7:

Well, you can get go back and claim.

Speaker 6:

I don't think I'll ever be able to fully be an Ethereum. I might be able to, like invest in a third party and you know, buy it through there and take the 1.5% off or whatever, but to buy it through like the blockchain and stuff I think is, I don't think I'll ever be able to do that.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it gets expensive, that's for sure. It's yeah. No, I got no argument for you. Got no argument for you. I Enjoy making transactions on slain talking.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, Edward, I think you can't hear anybody.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, we're talking.

Speaker 6:

Hold on, I come back again.

Speaker 4:

I think you you lost, ryan, you lost.

Speaker 6:

Son of a year and that finally comes back to laugh at me son of a bitch.

Speaker 5:

Well, my friends, that's a good. That's a good timing to make a little transition to a giveaway. I've got a little wheel here prepared and I will bring Edward back up and just kind of let anyone With any final thoughts have the mic. This is always a better, sweet moment coming to the end of another book, so I wanted to, just before I run any giveaways, and tell everyone happy, happy holidays and do any kind of wrap up. I'd love to have Anyone have the mic.

Speaker 6:

It's kind of funny. I just I just spent like ten minutes just bashing a theory of it. It's like, all right, we're gonna do a theory of giveaways. Oh, how much you spend to send people that, like, is it worth sending ten dollars to pay 20?

Speaker 5:

Oh, ethereum is a real expensive shame right now. It's probably what's gas at right now 39 is probably a dollar, 25 dollar 45 to send a 30 Bad bro.

Speaker 7:

So what you know?

Speaker 5:

that's the crazy. That's the crazy thing is like right now.

Speaker 6:

I'm like oh, so what you should do is you should send out ten dollars but take away the gas fee when you're sending it. So I mean, why do you have to pay the gas fee all the time?

Speaker 7:

I got a valid transaction.

Speaker 6:

Yeah. So yeah, I know, but why not charge a little bit less to take out that gas fee, like, send a little bit less.

Speaker 4:

Is that because then you're gonna get the people that are like why, why didn't I get the full amount?

Speaker 6:

Say man gas is up, man crazy.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I appreciate the love and care though it's. It's definitely a an expensive chain. But, yeah, that makes the the reward that that much you should pull a friend in bridge to polygons. Yeah, no, don't do that. Is he bridging back to something? That's great.

Speaker 6:

No, he's made more bridges than London is.

Speaker 7:

Hey, he's not the only project that done that. He's not the only one.

Speaker 6:

He's like the pioneer of making bridges. They literally should have him as an engineer for making bridges, because how many bridges is made? Yeah, he's a bridge builder, but yeah, I think the more that's what I get keeps going up, the more I think he's tempted to go back to Salana and like, so bummed I was looking at the yeah you, why is it so expensive to trade a youth right now? Why is it? Is it 30? Expensive but the trade them. Maybe it was a joke, but he had like gas fees or on the magic Eden was like 33.3%.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, on Salana, yes, they are up, because it was called the bitch tax. After that, to force people to bridge over to ETH, they put and then place the bitch tax, which is thirty three point three percent tax. So if you sell it for a hundred soul, you have thirty three percent off of that is really going to the youth.

Speaker 6:

That's insane to me.

Speaker 7:

No, it's. It is insane, definitely, but it would. You don't remember when they did that back when they launched and you know original collection and then got that they there's so much crazy fun for that on timelines and it was just a force people not to? Well, no, I was. I don't even know.

Speaker 6:

I don't want to go into it but can you imagine, though, like having a piece of art and Giving it to someone and they say I don't know if I really like this, I might send it back, and you're like, yeah, but you're gonna have to give me like 30%. I.

Speaker 7:

Don't know. I guess that's some of the artists is out there. They they list all their stuff on Tezos and it's that 25% to 10% secondary fees which I am. I'm for artists, you know doing that because if sells secondary gives more life to the, to the value of an artist and rewards them as well. But when you're a project, yeah, yeah, it's a whole nother story.

Speaker 6:

Like it's different if you've got like 10,000 of them and Every one you sell you gotta pay a thirty three point three percent like that. To me that's just like.

Speaker 7:

That feels like what. That's a lot of money yet if it's, you know, say, 18,000 dollars to purchase it. 33% of that is not cheap.

Speaker 6:

Yeah it's, it's insane, but I digress People out here trying to make money, that's all that's happening.

Speaker 5:

And we're off to the book club here and then on me if you've got to take into account the gas fees, sorry, any, any yeah there you go.

Speaker 7:

There is not the only one with gas fees. I was like, oh, we're over playing about gas fees, but all blockchains have gas fees.

Speaker 6:

Some, some people's gas is just more expensive. Yes, ease, ease is I'm like supreme, while everyone else is using regular Nice, that's a good dad joke.

Speaker 5:

That was great. Hey, viper, welcome my friend. Hey, what, what's what's with the Famo? To viper I know you've always been viper, but you were Famo also and now it's kind of tripping me up, bro. I'm missing the famo with just a little bit. I like viper, but I love Famo also.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, I Don't know. I I think most people call me viper because that's what I've been using for a while, and I Think some people find it hard pronouncing the formal one. But my speech bats, which my speech bats, it's dope, I think, lailin.

Speaker 6:

Sorry, viper, stop. No, I'm, I see watch the door, oh guys.

Speaker 8:

I'm a. I'm a speech back to Famo. Well, that's not actually the pronunciation, but I I do love it when Lane pronounces that family. Only only ladies are to pronounce it very rarely. Only only lane gated every damn time Other people try to murder the name because I was in the space actually like a week ago and he found it very difficult to pronounce it in the end.

Speaker 5:

But I think Lane got the pronunciation instantly from the first pronunciation to only I probably, I probably do it so wrong, but it's just, I'm great to see you, my friend, and that toast, that toast will always be a staple. So if you ever change anything else up on me, you'll start to confuse me.

Speaker 7:

But how are you?

Speaker 5:

still rocking that thing. I made that Dope.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, ryan, ryan and we definitely some time ago, and I've been working that ever since.

Speaker 6:

It's actually pretty good. It's not dope, it's bread, come on.

Speaker 8:

Dole bread. Yeah, I've been good, I've been doing okay, just that it's the Hamilton season here in Nigeria and it's very, very cold, I think. I think it's more cold over the way you guys are, but and this is just a time of the year whereby for like a month, from December 3 down to January, it's always cold and it comes with his also. But If it is this cold, I wonder what you guys are experiencing over there, because this is nothing compared to what you guys experience a lot of the time over there. So I think it's just like a preamble to what you guys are experiencing over there, because my throat is actually messing me up right now. I'm having no medications for like three days right now. So you guys are really, really trying over there with the snow and everything.

Speaker 5:

Well, hey, stay safe, stay healthy, stay warm, my friend, make sure you drink lots of water. I hope you feel better soon. And, yep, it seems like it's that time of year DAP seemed to have caught something sparky, had something Last month. I've been catching stuff. We all got kids bringing stuff home. So, yes, stay safe, take your daily vitamins. What else, what else are the standards? Get your sleep, get plenty of sleep, everything that that our moms told us. But, yeah, great to great to see you here, viper. We're just kind of wrapping up. We've had a great round of bamboo book time. This, this last novel, really really just helped end the year Perfectly. Edward, I can't believe the timing, how we, how we got through this one and it's just setting it up for a great holiday season and I couldn't be more thrilled about the whole experience and being able to end the year with your two books. So I just want to give you a huge, huge Thank you. Big round of applause, viper. Go ahead, my friend.

Speaker 8:

I'm sure does anyone have an idea that today's actually done right now.

Speaker 5:

Say that again. What was the question?

Speaker 4:

There's a bit of a port that. Twitter is. So we're on a space right now, on a platform that's supposedly down.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yes, but no, so Twitter.

Speaker 4:

Twitter's apparently having connection issues. There's been people reporting it in discords that I'm in, so Twitter's apparently down we snuck through.

Speaker 6:

That's awesome.

Speaker 5:

That's pretty great, only spaces go or what I.

Speaker 4:

Don't know, I looked up.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I see some other spaces happening, so maybe maybe it's not the spaces that's getting affected. Hey, that's good we didn't get rugged. Well, I am going to run a wheel here. Let me make sure I've got everyone on here. I appreciate you guys for coming through and and, like I said, we will take just a little bit of a break over the holiday season and we will be back to some bamboo book time. But we've got some pretty juicy airdrop Awesomeness happening here pretty soon, so I've got to start pumping out some cheesy Videos with me and my, with me and my family. We got some fun little videos to help explain the gifts and the airdrop and and just the ins and outs and it's gonna be real, real simple and, yeah, we've got it just coming up. So let's just take a little bit of a break from our book spaces and we'll rock those.

Speaker 5:

I'm really excited, you guys. I can't wait for the art. Honestly, the and okay, I'll tell you guys, I've been dying to tell someone, but the red panda cubs art is done also, it's all done and it's amazing. It's so good. The little red panda cubs are so wild. The art just keeps Each collection. He's just having more and more fun. I just love our artist. If I haven't, if you guys haven't been told this before, I guess he's 18 now. When I met him he was 16, but he's a kid from Venezuela. I have just the best relationship with him, joy and we. We just have a just a fun time creating these, these cute little characters. So I am legitimately excited for you guys to see which little, crazy, wild little cubs that you get with this panda drop and Honestly, we can. We can start hyping up the red panda cubs drop Shortly after. So we're just really gearing up for a fun 2024.

Speaker 5:

Interestingly enough, the the Panda fam newsletter is Just working awesome. I'm driving Sales on the website. People love pandas, you guys. They love giving back. We've got just a really, really great future ahead of us. I I think it's, you know, awesome and impressive. A lot of the, the big names and big partnerships that some projects are are making happen and I Just, I just think there's a lot of missed opportunities Also just playing the simple game and there's a lot of just money out there to be made to keep projects afloat just by playing the good old standard Marketing and and have something to sell. But what's really fun about our project is we have a feel-good aspect. We do legitimately donate to pandas and the more we are on the market doing that, it will just be easier and easier to sell cute little panda gear to people.

Speaker 5:

So my big 2024 goals with the project are our Children's books. To get that Going, which will mean that we'll need to get the red panda cubs dropped as well as the bamboo shoots. So, yeah, 2024 should be awesome. We should also be doing our first Get together. I'll start getting Details out about that. I'm excited to start doing some spaces here over these next days leading up to the panda cubs drop, to just kind of talk about this stuff and Remind everyone that we're here. I'll try to get some exciting giveaways to start drumming up some eyeballs and I'm excited and at the end of the day, I just appreciate you guys so much.

Speaker 5:

Oh my gosh, I just feel like I Really really lucky that that this is working, that we are functioning to the point where we can have book club spaces, just makes me so happy that things are. Things are functioning with the program, the whole project, the whole Brands to where we can. We can sit down and talk about books and not stress stuff. You know I that that's. My big goal is that we can always Be doing real life stuff working on our health, working on our minds, working on our our reading, our connections, our friendships and the. The health of the project is just kind of not a Question or or a fear. It will always just kind of be a standard, that pandemania will always be around doing cute fun Stuff and and if you really dig into the project and get to know us, we're pretty badass too, you know, and I love that. I love that we're we.

Speaker 5:

We have something really awesome to offer and I hope we can catch some eyeballs with this panda cubs drop. It's not easy in this space To get yourself out there, even being in the space for two years. So I'm really really Hope when we catch some eyeballs. I don't have, however, you know I don't have crazy expectations. I know this space well enough to Really just kind of understand it is what it is. But I I do have a feeling that these little cute panda cubs, and especially the prices, they'll probably start being listed on the floor. That will, we might get some attention, we might get some volume going. So I'm excited, but again, no, no expectations. I'm just here building and staying in my lane and and Growing it more in confidence to be able to do that and and I love that. So good year. Those are, I guess, some of my yes.

Speaker 6:

What happens if Lane is in his lane? Is that like a double lane?

Speaker 5:

Yes, a double, it's a. It's a high occupancy vehicle lane you get to. Motorcycles are allowed also. So, yep, I'm with the. I don't get, I don't know, I don't know where I'm going with that. Damn it. See, I'm not funny. Yeah, no, I appreciate that I need to Work on being as witty and clever as Edward. I always get stumped. I'm like I should have something witty on the tip of my tongue, and it just never comes out. You'd think with, with my time of being a dad, I'd have like a bunch of dad jokes too, and I'm not. I'm no good at those either. So Come on, man. No, it's bad, it's poor performance.

Speaker 6:

How can you even call?

Speaker 5:

yourself a dad, but I've got enough cheesiness and you know I'm confident enough to embarrass my kids in public that I'm. I think I make up for it.

Speaker 6:

You know what I mean at least you got that going for you. I mean, it's if you were one of those cool dads that have to be like I don't know something fishy he's can't be.

Speaker 5:

No, I am not cool. No, my kids my, you know. But I think that makes me cool at the end of the day.

Speaker 4:

He's a lame dad.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I'll take it, though I like I like my kids to be able to be like ah, just my dad's kind of crazy. Just watch out for that. I want to be that. I gotta ask though.

Speaker 6:

How come your, your name isn't like road or like highway?

Speaker 5:

Well, I do have the why in there, so it's technically not like you know it's been like roadie true.

Speaker 6:

I'm gonna call David roadie for now it might Speak, but I'm just our column roadie.

Speaker 5:

Dave, dave, what do you got?

Speaker 6:

Oh no, he's coming up, we got it Go ahead, dave.

Speaker 2:

What was the question?

Speaker 4:

Why isn't your name road?

Speaker 2:

road way. Road house. That's what I wish. My name was Road house. Sorry, that was a Patrick Swayze movie, good one, I Don't know, I mean make one of that house as well.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, that's a. I think it was actually the guy who does Gregory house actually played him to you, lori, in that scene, and he's just like I Don't look at the rule. He throws the Look at the window house and then Peter goes around.

Speaker 2:

Nice Such class of Patrick Swayze movie. I mean, if I could have my wish that would be at least my middle name road house or something I Don't know. See, I'm not. I'm not any good at the dad jokes either. They just they fall flat. I'm about I'm on the verge of being close to giving up the dad joke, things like a road. Flat fall flat like a road there we go there, we go.

Speaker 5:

That's that's Dave, and I's Quick wet. You're seeing it in action, Dave. Dave and I together, together, we're super witty together, dave, you and I can bounce things off of you know, but no one sees it. No one's there to witness it. We got a crazy thing about this whole space. I think we spent 10 minutes actually talking about a book.

Speaker 6:

We've literally talked about everything else.

Speaker 5:

You know, hey, I okay. Yeah, this today's space we veered, but I think, I think you know, overall we do a pretty damn good job.

Speaker 4:

We changed lanes quite a bit today.

Speaker 5:

Nice, these guys. I do have a friend, that was perfect.

Speaker 2:

timing is everything in comedy.

Speaker 5:

Nailed it, Nailed it. Well, my friends, I am going to be wrapping up the space. I am starting to get a little sleepy and delirious. I'm doing so so much better on my getting to bed on time that these hours, when I start to get sleepy, I'm actually impressed. It means it means my, my patterns are working. That excites me. But that doesn't mean I'm getting old. You guys back off. I do have gray hairs. I'm getting old. I'm getting old. Oh, Dave, what's happening?

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the club I'm getting. I'm getting them, brother.

Speaker 5:

Everyone, everyone start. Everyone thinks I'm the older brother. Now, dave, that's kind of that would have impressed me 10 years ago or 15 years ago. But when people ask when we're together and they're like, oh, you've gotten, at a couple of times they think you're the younger brother and I'm like what the heck is going on here? I've got that bad of wrinkles on my face. I got that many gray hairs. I'm starting to feel, I don't know, I feel like I skipped any kind of adulthood. I just went from a puny wimp to an old man. Is that? Is that how it went? Is that my life story, dave?

Speaker 2:

Not even You're. You're so young.

Speaker 5:

That just means you have to say that, because that means that you're young too. So I appreciate it. Dang it, you're on to me, edward. Do you have any any last thoughts about the book? Let's bring it, let's bring it back. Any last thoughts about the book or books in general? Or please actually, will you give us a little taste of what's to come and when it will be here and when we'll be able to read what was the name of it? Again, silent, silent. I got it.

Speaker 6:

I'm going to have to keep it silent, no, but I'm all serious aside, I feel like yours and David's banter at the table must have been a real hoot back then. The way you guys crack jokes at each other, I'm just flabbergasted. I'm, I'm. I probably would have just busted a gut the whole time I was sitting around you guys eating my corn flakes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, edward. One time we got going so well that Sprite was shooting out of our noses. A kidgy knot He'd up Sprite shooting out of our noses, yeah.

Speaker 5:

We'll have to prove it to Edward that you and I can can provide some fun in real life banter at the table. Edward, you'll, you'll believe us.

Speaker 2:

Let's do it.

Speaker 5:

Oh, man, but no, but in all seriousness, you can't go silent on us. Give us, give us some details of what's to come, my friend.

Speaker 6:

All right. So the story is about a girl named Andy, which is ironic because my brother's name is Andrew, I I think he's a bit of a girl, so I named my character after him and the the story is about this girl who gets into a traumatic accident, kind of similar to what happened in Winterseve. The Dr Whitman ends up trying to help the girl go through these, these difficult times. At the same time there's also a serial killer on the loose on this island Actually the island that I had recently just came from.

Speaker 6:

I decided to actually kind of bring a real world island and build a story around it. Um, the idea is that she's going to be able to see these murders and take place because of her trauma. And it kind of resonates back to Dr Whitman, who, you know, dealt with Winterseve and the fact that you know these cases are very similar in the fact that after serious trauma they were able to see something. So it's going to be kind of like a tale. I feel like it's like supernatural plus, you know, serial killer. I think it's going to be an interesting kind of dynamic.

Speaker 5:

Well, I love that. Thank you for the little preview. I'm excited you'll have to keep us posted and I can only imagine you'll use the mother account to you know. Update on your books and stuff too, right.

Speaker 6:

I do hope to do that, yeah, and use Dennis kind of like one page just about our books coming out. So I mean it's two at 1130 at night.

Speaker 5:

Nice, nice, I'm a complete animal.

Speaker 6:

I was in the Newfoundland because I was worried about not having a contract. I took one immediately, so now I'm stuck doing a contract for three months. I'm going to be alone on Christmas, which really sucks, but notice what it is. Yeah, do what you got to do. So, yeah, I got kind of in panic mode.

Speaker 6:

I was like I need to take a job and, yeah, I'm working in a nicer part. I'm going to actually be closer to Ryan. Actually, I think it'll only be like a few hours away. So we might have to, we might have to visit, we might have to hit up his bank. See what that's saying Go to go to a trip with Ryan.

Speaker 5:

That sounds great. Hey, that's awesome. And if you're saying you're that close to Ryan, that means you're really not even that far from me. I'm not. I'm not too far from there. We're talking Washington.

Speaker 6:

Well, let's do a road trip.

Speaker 5:

There we go, road trip. Book club road trip.

Speaker 6:

Right Road house.

Speaker 8:

And then we go back to the takeaway.

Speaker 6:

And now the story ends. You can end space. There we go. That was perfect, bro.

Speaker 5:

I love it. Whoever said that was awesome Road house. Okay, with that being said, my friends, I'm going to get the video going and here let's see who's got a fresh number for us tonight. Who's got tonight's number?

Speaker 4:

In like an hour of you, of you doing this, trying to get this friggin gift given away. So let's, do let's do 60 seconds. So that's 60 seconds. 60 is here.

Speaker 5:

My as well. I got it on longer. I got it locked in. Here we go. That just gives us some time for some extra conversation. The wheels spin. This is going to make the slow like. Who's going to get it? We'll see how long this goes. Oh boy, yeah, we're only at like 45, 45 seconds at the most. No, we're. What's my counting? My timing is off. Oh boy, see, it's already slowing down, but I don't. I don't think it's really slowing down and we've only got eight contestants tonight.

Speaker 5:

If I missed anyone because you just hopped on, I even gave some of the late comers a little bit of a chance. Viper, it was so good to see you tonight. I threw you on the wheel. I think. Okay, it's slowing down, but, ryan, I think you've got it tonight. My friend, there's no way you're halfway through and it's going so slow. Yep, finally, paul Ryan takes home the 62nd draw.

Speaker 5:

Congratulations, my friend, and little update on the super spaces. It is official, my friends their TOEAP campaign. As eager as the Panda fam was to use it, they are bringing it to an end so officially. I wanted to wait till it was official from them. I will be getting out your new TOEAPs to you. I will get those out here shortly and let you each know individually once you've got it, and so that reminds me to tell anybody else that doesn't have that. It will be a manual process. Just let me know. I can see a couple of you here that don't have that TOEAP and you might be getting closer to it. Just let me know and we'll get you a TOEAP sent to you. So I'll be getting those all updated here shortly and we'll get back to being able to have the actual NFT to everybody. So I appreciate you guys. Sparky, I've been waiting this whole space to see if we've got another song from you. My friend, did you have a final song of your own picked out?

Speaker 4:

I do have a final song of my own. Yeah, let's rock and roll, but there's a kicker to it. Oh, okay, and you'll see why when I play it.

Speaker 5:

Oh nice, okay perfect.

Speaker 2:

What other book club does this? I mean, this book club rocks.

Speaker 6:

Wait, am I gone again?

Speaker 1:

Don't tell me the music stopped. A merry little Christmas Hello.

Speaker 5:

You're missing some beautiful Christmas music.

Speaker 1:

It's your happy life I feel like you're pulling a lane on me From now on our troubles will be out of sight. Love yourself a merry little Christmas.

Speaker 4:

Make the yuletide gay.

Speaker 1:

From now on, our troubles will be miles away. Here we are, as in olden days Happy golden days of yuletide, faithful friends who are dear to us.

Speaker 2:

Gather near to us and smile.

Speaker 1:

Through the years we all will be together.

Speaker 2:

Let the faiths align.

Speaker 1:

Hang a shining star upon the highest bar and have yourself a merry little Christmas. Now, faithful friends who are dear, to us.

Speaker 2:

Gather near to us once more.

Speaker 1:

Through the years, we all will be together.

Speaker 4:

Let the faiths align.

Speaker 1:

Hang a shining star upon the highest bar and have yourself a merry little Christmas now.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, I didn't choose a song that was related to the book. I figured Edward's last song was a pretty good song to end the book theme with, and I figured it's our last space before Christmas. We're literally four days till Christmas, three days till Christmas Eve, based on where you are time-wise, I'm 21st right now for me technically. So you know, I figured why not wish everybody a merry Christmas? That's here and just have a nice chill song. I don't really listen to a lot of Christmas music. I think a lot of people get turned off by it because it's in all the stores, it's in all the radio stations. I also listen to radio stations in the car and you know I like Michael Buble, so I figured I'd play a Michael Buble Christmas song and round out the Christmas space for us.

Speaker 5:

I love that. I appreciate that and fun relevant commentary. Sparky, I am one of those people that's very picky with Christmas music for whatever reason, like a thing, and I don't know why, but I'm just like ugh, so much Christmas music happening and that one I just really love. I love that one and it brought a really nice vibe to my heart and my mind. Thank you very much. That put me right in the great spirit of giving and love and kindness and good vibes. That was perfect. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4:

I think there's too much Christmas music out there that's the same stuff repeated over and over and I feel like it's just forced down your throat way too much.

Speaker 4:

Even Michael Buble, like I like his music in general, but his Christmas stuff is just because of how popular he became, it became very forced, but still it's, I think, some of the better Christmas music that's out there. I just think he's got a really good voice and sings really well. So I felt like it just, you know, I went through maybe like six different Christmas songs and I think the one that I was going to do before this one was the Christmas song by Nat King Cole. And then, you know, I saw Michael Buble and I was like, okay, let's see if he has any better, not too harsh, like I know he's got some more upbeat ones and everything. But yeah, I just wanted to round out the book time and the Christmas time with a good, good Christmas song and just wish everybody the best Christmas this year and have a good, good New Year. If we don't see you before then.

Speaker 5:

I love it. Thank you, sparky. I echo that. Happy New Year, my friends, happy holidays, mary Christmas, whatever this season brings, make sure that you reach out to some loved ones, tell them you love them. That can go a long way for yourself. That's so, so good for your soul. I can't say that enough. Reach out to people you love and tell someone you appreciate them and just spread some love. Love you guys. Oh, you guys are the best. Have a good holiday season. Thanks for that. Ending, sparky. Perfect Love it. Thank you.

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Book Time and Storytelling Discussion
Writing and Critiquing Books With Author
Book Ending and Future Story Discussion
Character Dynamics and Story Mysteries
Book Writing, Characters, and Future Plans
Scammers, Promoting Projects, and Building Relationships
Panda Cubs, Merch, and Event Sponsorship
Book, Friendship, and Ethereum Fees Discussion
Crypto Transactions and Gas Fees Conversation
Pandamania Project Discussion and Upcoming Events
Book Discussion and Preview, Christmas Wishes
Christmas Music and Holiday Spirit