Ever wondered how technology influences relationships, global communication, and even the ancient past? Fasten your seatbelts as Edward and I take you on an exploration of these themes through the lens of our gripping book discussion. We unravel the fascinating developments in Justin and Caleb's dynamic, the puzzling circumstances surrounding our friend Sparky's health, and tantalizing revelations about Luna's true identity.
This episode isn't just about character analysis and plot speculations; it’s also an invitation to ponder the transformational power of technology. We debate its impact on humanity, from uniting the global community to influencing the lives of the tech-immersed younger generations. Delight in our deep dive into the teachings of 'Mother' across cultures and their potential future implications, all against the backdrop of our scrutinization of the intriguing book we’re currently reading.
Our dialogue doesn't just end at innovative tech and intriguing characters; we also delve into Edward's journey as an author. We dissect his unique writing style, the compelling structure of his book, and the exciting potential of reader involvement in shaping the narrative of his third book. We then switch gears to discuss the game-changing impact of technology on communication and connection, and we wrap up with a fun Twitter Picker session. Don't miss out on our appreciative nod to the service horses rendered throughout history. Join us for the insightful, humorous, and thought-provoking ride – there's something for everyone!
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Ever wondered how technology influences relationships, global communication, and even the ancient past? Fasten your seatbelts as Edward and I take you on an exploration of these themes through the lens of our gripping book discussion. We unravel the fascinating developments in Justin and Caleb's dynamic, the puzzling circumstances surrounding our friend Sparky's health, and tantalizing revelations about Luna's true identity.
This episode isn't just about character analysis and plot speculations; it’s also an invitation to ponder the transformational power of technology. We debate its impact on humanity, from uniting the global community to influencing the lives of the tech-immersed younger generations. Delight in our deep dive into the teachings of 'Mother' across cultures and their potential future implications, all against the backdrop of our scrutinization of the intriguing book we’re currently reading.
Our dialogue doesn't just end at innovative tech and intriguing characters; we also delve into Edward's journey as an author. We dissect his unique writing style, the compelling structure of his book, and the exciting potential of reader involvement in shaping the narrative of his third book. We then switch gears to discuss the game-changing impact of technology on communication and connection, and we wrap up with a fun Twitter Picker session. Don't miss out on our appreciative nod to the service horses rendered throughout history. Join us for the insightful, humorous, and thought-provoking ride – there's something for everyone!
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Speaker 3:Good evening, my friends. Hello, hello. We got a nice little quaint, little intimate group starting off the night. I like this, I'm gonna say hello to everyone. Hello Edward, hello Dap, hi Ryan, hey, might man Demerice CA, jacqueline Ivan. Oh, the sneaker guy just left right as I was saying hi to everyone, he just dipped out. I was gonna ask him what was up. I was curious about his sneakers. Edward, what's going on, my man?
Speaker 4:how you doing, brother. I am man, oh man, am I exhausted? Uh oh, I don't know what's happening. Can you guys hear Edward? Can you not hear me?
Speaker 5:yeah, I can hear him you're gonna have to drop down oh yeah, I can't hear you.
Speaker 3:Edward, I'm sorry, I want to hear what he's saying.
Speaker 3:I think it happens to if, like you, send out the co-host invite before they get up here and they accept it oh right like invite them up and then, once they're up here, invite them to co-host is like the safest way that I've found yeah, you might be right, my friend, because I usually do that just out of what ifs, and and that's interesting that you say that now, because that's that's crazy I try to do that and I didn't. Edward, how are you, my friend? Can you hear me now? Yes they're loud and clear how's it going?
Speaker 4:yeah, I was just saying I'm feeling a little bit tired today. Did I just get kicked? No, no, you're good, you're good why am I down to listener again?
Speaker 3:you're a speaker right now and I invited again the co-host, so it's all. It's all walkie here. I'm gonna cancel the co-host. Oh and uh, you should be good. It shows speaker on on mine this is, mike is off. Twitter is. Twitter is freaking out tonight. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4:I can't even mute my mic. Can you hear me now? Oh my, gosh yeah, okay, hold on, I'm gonna leave and come back like maybe don't make the co-host so I got the co-host invite coming his way.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah about 10 minutes before the space started, I noticed Twitter was freaking out, so I wonder if something's going on tonight. Oh, now I've lost Ryan. I can't hear Ryan now. I'm still here. Can you hear Ryan still?
Speaker 4:oh, okay, okay, I can hear you yeah, okay, everyone's here maybe, maybe we'll just stay here let's try it again.
Speaker 3:Ever how you doing doing great man enjoying.
Speaker 4:We see people popping out, in and out. It's so crazy. I think, yeah, I think there's a lot going on. I don't know if you need to restart the space. Do you think Lane or do you think it's?
Speaker 3:restart the spit. You think something wonky's going on? I don't know. I think sometimes we might just have a little slow start. That's alright.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm not sure, is Dap able to talk? I wonder.
Speaker 3:Dap, are you here with us? I am.
Speaker 4:Dap, I can't hear you say I said something.
Speaker 3:I can't hear him either. This is crazy. Well, it doesn't want me to have a co-host tonight. This is.
Speaker 5:I can hear him, I'm the only one. I can hear you guys.
Speaker 4:I'm just messing. I can hear Dap, that's why, so, so I can't hear
Speaker 3:you, I'm not joking. Yeah, okay, I get, I'm gonna remove him from co-host.
Speaker 4:No more co-host for pay to mania.
Speaker 3:Dap, will you try again?
Speaker 7:we're experiencing this is like musical chair trying again yeah, he's a listener, but he's speaking.
Speaker 5:That's weird he's a listener, but he's speaking.
Speaker 4:This is freaky yeah, no, you see, he's kind of a speaker for me, yeah, well, yeah, it's those hilarious. So you know, you know what's probably going on.
Speaker 7:It's probably Luna missing with us it's cuz Sparky's not hearing nothing's working yeah, luna, yeah Sparky.
Speaker 4:Luna and Sparky are up or something yeah, luna's fucking maybe he's literally you know he's always trying to you know shift, to blame someone else, I'm certain.
Speaker 3:I think it might be sparky it's louder hey, how about Mike man, you coming through loud and clear too, but I'm here, me too just one of those days, I guess I'm. Yeah, I've got a little burst of energy, so I'll carry us through, you guys are you saying yeah, I believe you, lee, you got.
Speaker 3:I'm I'm pretty exhausted, pooped physically, but yeah, book time gets me all amped up, you guys I'm excited to be here. So I did get a message from Sparky. He said he he isn't feeling well, so let's all keep him and our thoughts and hope he gets feeling better and we might. We might see how we do without Sparky's takes tonight. See if, if anyone else steps up to the plate with some theories, I've got some definite thoughts on the reading tonight.
Speaker 3:Edward, I was really stoked, I knew it was gonna happen. And then you, you pulled the rug out from underneath my feet and I was once again sad. Here I'll tell you what I mean Justin and Caleb going into, I guess in my mind I can't think of the word, but like they went into like solitary confinement, I guess, and they were talking to each other like, oh, it worked out, and they were like buddy buddies and I was so excited like yes, I knew it, the fight was just a show and I don't know. I had like some kind of hope that they were good and Justin's gonna be the good guy. But then as soon as he asked, oh, what was the? What was the specific question? Shoot, it threw Justin off and got him all upset again and Caleb left the room and Justin's back on the.
Speaker 3:Caleb must die and I'm super bummed out, but I I gotta admit it's really good you keep, you keep pulling at my emotions with Justin. I have to give a shout out to charity. Wasn't, wasn't a charity that kicked the guy in the nuts and you Scraped his eyeballs out? Is that right? That was charity, right.
Speaker 4:That it was. Yeah, this was a pretty hurt-jerking few chapters, I think.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was, and I'm not going to lie. I have been reading through this with ease and excitement, jumping to the next chapter, excited to find out what happens and this particular set of chapters I had. By the beginning of the reading I had to fill up one of my vitamin drinks and I was like, okay, after this chapter I'll go fill it up. And I wanted to have the vitamin drink to be sipping on while I was reading and so I was like, oh, I gotta get to that vitamin drink. Oh, just one more chapter and then I'll go over. It was like 10 feet away from me to go to the sink. I couldn't put it down, bro.
Speaker 3:I was really excited to find out what was going on and there was some action and some and the back and forth with Justin and Caleb. I was really on the edge of my seat with the creepy security guy what's his name? Darryl, and that whole sequence. And so, yeah, you really made me wait until the very end where they all make a pact, and I was like, all right, we gotta put a plan in place. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe I need to go still fill up my vitamin drink. So I read through the whole thing before I even got my vitamin drink filled up. That's how, on the edge of my seat, I was my friend. So I'm excited to hear everyone else's thoughts about the reading. How far were we supposed to read? Okay, let's see, I read two.
Speaker 4:Page 366,. I do believe.
Speaker 6:Yes, that's where I ended up. Okay, so we read about Morgan with Justin, right? Yeah, because that was super interesting. That she's been pulling strings, yeah, what do you think? I just think that she's been messing with them mentally. Like I didn't realize she was doing that until like now. It looks like she's been messing with them the whole time. He's been there and leading them along so that she could use them later. So that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 3:I agree. Yeah, I think this. I'm trying to figure out if I like Morgan or not. Yeah, I can't tell if she's good or bad. I don't know. What do you guys feel about Morgan? And she's the daughter of another person that I don't really know how to feel about quite yet.
Speaker 6:She's giving off serious bad guy vibes because she's kind of being used by her mother, it sounds like, and they're taking her offspring and sacrificing it. So it sounds like she's kind of getting vengeful and she definitely hates her mother Like her real mother, not the mother. So, yeah, she's giving bad guy vibes to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, me too. I'm not quite sure who's good, who's bad with the, with the upper ups, and I'm still also confused about Claire, and I know the group has spoken about how we think she might be Luna. Are we still thinking that? I think there was one chapter that threw me off because they were talking to Claire about Luna and maybe that's Edward just really cementing the twist when it does come, when we find out that Claire is Luna and it's like but we were talking to you about her, you really didn't know you were her. I don't know, I still am not quite sure, but I can see how that will be a big twist. I don't know. Do you guys still feel like Luna? Is Claire as Luna?
Speaker 6:I feel like she doesn't know that she's going to be Luna, like she hasn't been revealed to her yet in real time. Like we we're getting glimpses of it but she hasn't. So I kind of feel like it's going to be revealed later and something's going to happen that makes her Luna somehow, but she just hasn't realized it in real life yet.
Speaker 3:I think it was also the hours, maybe that was throwing me off also that one of the chapters was saying that she was going to be working a 26 hour shift by the end of it. And you know, she doesn't have a union to really help her, so she just kind of has to do it and she's kind of pissed off. She's there in the first place and now all this action, and she's even more like. I wish I never came here. But in, in thinking about the hours that are allotted, I guess I guess she could black out and snap into Luna mode while she's there at work on the clock. I guess that I didn't. Well, how?
Speaker 6:has she actually done anything physically, though? Like everything's in dreams right now, so I don't know that she's? Actually good point on anything physically with the kids or anything. But she's very protective of the kids, kind of like Luna, is always kind of comforting in their dreams at first. So I don't think she's appeared, yeah that's a great point.
Speaker 3:Has she done anything in real life yet with anybody? I can't recall.
Speaker 6:I don't, edward. Yeah, I don't think with any of the kids yet.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, we've had several deaths, haven't we?
Speaker 6:Yeah, but like Zeke was skinned alive by that sea creature thing, has she caused any of the deaths, like physically? I don't think so that's a good point. Leland took her own life, probably under mental suggestion, but I don't think Luna's actually inflicted harm on anybody yet physically.
Speaker 4:Is she like John Kramer from SAW? Never actually kills, only gives them a chance to live.
Speaker 6:I'm not sure. Let's let them decide.
Speaker 3:Okay, I need to clarify another little tidbit I learned in these chapters. It sounds like Morgan has been used over the years to create offspring and not necessarily under her permission. It was not consensual, correct? Or was she going along with it? I can't make out the exacts with that scenario.
Speaker 4:I don't think it was consensual.
Speaker 6:No, they were taking her offspring at the side, whether they lived or died from others.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, that's right. They were sacrificing them too, right, right?
Speaker 6:And it sounded like Morgan's sister was supposed to be the ruler or whatever. And then whatever happened to her, she died. And now Morgan's a little bit resentful that they didn't make Morgan the future ruler. They just said, basically using her to create the next god. That's what she said. I think there's definitely some vengefulness going on there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have to admit, if I were in Morgan's shoes, I'd probably be pissed off as well and want some kind of revenge. A lot of these kids are put into situations. I mean, look at Justin himself. He's just an angry kid man. We've got a big box of tinder and a bunch of matches, I don't know. A lot of craziness is about to happen. I really am still rooting for Justin being a good guy, but I don't know. Edward, should I keep my hopes up or not?
Speaker 4:Well, I'm just wondering well, that tinder, do you think he's swiping left or right?
Speaker 3:Good one. I met my wife on Tinder fun fact. Oh sweet, yeah, yeah, but yeah, so what were you?
Speaker 4:going to say Did you swipe right or left?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, we both had photos of two pittles and a pit bull, and it was an instant match.
Speaker 4:And she looked at your pit bull and said that doesn't match the picture.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I catfished her with the dogs.
Speaker 6:So, I'm wondering why Morgan all of a sudden decided Caleb needs to die Because towards the end there she's convincing Justin to do it. But she didn't even see Caleb. She was watching Darryl leave and that kind of thing. So I'm kind of wondering why Caleb, what he did, that she decided he needed to die for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I too have that question, Dap. Were you able to get through the reading?
Speaker 7:No, so yeah, I didn't have any time to do much of anything in the past day.
Speaker 3:Hey, I've seen what you've been working on and I give you a.
Speaker 7:Oh yeah, I did do that.
Speaker 3:That's awesome, but what do you think about some of the things you've heard? Are you kind of tracking with any of the turn of events that have happened, or is it all just kind of nonsense at this point?
Speaker 7:No, it's not that, it's nonsense. I still understand and I'm going to get caught up. It's just a matter of when. I know that Saturday we're not, there's a birthday party and one of the other kiddos that's supposed to be there is going to have RSV, so we're not going. So I know that I'm going to have some time there to probably do a whole lot of reading. As far as the story and everything I mean, it still sounded great. So I'm really interested to catch up on all the fine details. And yeah, it's really. It sounded like a cool adventure. I did have to go and have something done. On Tuesday. I had to have a test done at the hospital and when I went there I had the book with me and the lady up front was like, oh, are you reading something? And I was like, yeah, and she goes what's it about?
Speaker 7:I was like um, and I was still where I was at Karate Just finishing that up and I was just like I don't know. It was like, oh, okay, well, anything in particular. I was like, no, just this guy in Canada wrote it and I'm reading it, I'm kind of like reviewing it kind of thing, and she's like, oh, that's really neat. And then I almost thought about just letting her read the back of the book and then be like, hey, if you think that's interesting, here you go. But she had like a cross-neckliss on and stuff, you know, and we're in the South, and she was like the same age with my mom and I was like, yeah, no, we're not. I'm not even going to pitch NFT anything and book club anything and crazy wild culture. You didn't tell her there's a cross on this book. Oh well, there's Culted Sex and other things.
Speaker 7:And yeah, no, it literally has a cult. There's a blood moon, there's talks of satanic things in it and yeah, and there's Gore. And this book was like the embodiment of the opposite of what this woman looked like to me. So I was like I'm going to pass.
Speaker 3:You know, it's actually reminding me of the chapter where oh hold on, is it Sophia, whose grandparents were the cultists? Oh shoot, who was that?
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was correct.
Speaker 3:Sophia. When she finds out it's her grandparents, they take their masks off and the grandma goes from, like you know, animal sacrifice mode straight into like oh honey, go get back in bed. So I don't know that maybe that little old lady was like into some crazy cult stuff and just plays grandma half the time.
Speaker 7:She's obviously in the cult stuff, just not crazy cult stuff.
Speaker 4:Depends how devoted she is really.
Speaker 3:Oh man, that was a crazy part of the chapter as well. So, daph, we got a little bit more information on the grandma and grandpa. Now I'm curious. I'm not as curious as last time when I had that like I'm so dumb moment, where that didn't take place anywhere near this hospital, where things are taking place now. But I do have the question still, edward, does that cult have anything to do with anything that's going on at the hospital? Are they linked or is that just a coincidence that Sophia actually had some crazy cult stuff in her past and now she's here and it's like man, she can't get away from crazy.
Speaker 4:That's definitely linked.
Speaker 3:Oh boy, okay, okay, tell me more.
Speaker 4:Okay, well, the heroes have it in. But yeah, I'll say that it is linked and there is also mention of a queen, I think, in that chapter. I don't know if you've read that or not or if that slipped past you.
Speaker 3:That slipped past me, bro. What is that? The chapter with the grandparents?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's kind of hovering around in my head right now. Help me out. What happened exactly?
Speaker 4:I think the grandmother is just talking to her at the end of it and she says go back up to the house with my queen.
Speaker 3:Oh, interesting.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I figured you would have caught on that. I even put it in italics as well.
Speaker 3:See, that's another one of those little sneaky things that I should have caught on to, but I was taking it as just a pet name.
Speaker 6:That was Sophia, so why would she be?
Speaker 3:called queen. Yeah, and I wasn't thinking anything like that either. So now I'm like the same question as might meant. What does that all mean?
Speaker 4:I guess you'll have to find out the next chapters. You know how I like to shroud everything in mystery and I always leave the devils in the details. So a lot of times you're you'll read by something and it'll actually have a huge importance.
Speaker 6:So yeah, I just really like how they're all gonna quack and fear yeah.
Speaker 4:How are you doing, ryan? I know things are Going to little tough times there now with your mother and stuff. How's she doing, brother?
Speaker 5:Oh, I got her home. That's the makes it a little easier. So I'm Gonna see what kind of Days lie ahead of a bit, but I'm excited to get her back to the house and be able to attempt to her needs, to take care of her. And Kids are grandkids are excited. To my youngest kept saying and asking you know when she coming home, when's grandma coming home? You know, that's so cute, hearing that and the love that they have is just unmatched. It's unmatched.
Speaker 5:And yeah, I'm feeling like Edward, I'm exhausted man, like I was feeling it, feeling it, feeling it like I'm. I Wish it didn't. They get it to work out so early for one. That does not help anything. So I could typically be like playing, you know, and go go out, or your Get active out there, get that energy back that you want, right, man? But I Didn't get to any any reading, honestly, and but I Don't feel bad because I don't want to like get into it and then like get out of it in my mind. I guess never. I'll just dedicate some time. Or you can sit down for a good hour, you know, and retain what I read, and I Think I can get to that point now and and we got just a couple things, you know, go through with the next processes of for her. But yeah, things are definitely Looking somewhat upward in essence, and one step at a time, and I appreciate all the positive thoughts and the prayers and whatnot from everybody's, so thank you for anybody that has reached out and said those things. I've definitely Does wonders.
Speaker 5:I was actually thinking about this the other day and I was like, you know, it is actually an extraordinary time in human history right now because, like we have never, even like when bones and internet and all that stuff came out, we've never like been able to like collectively sit amongst people all at once around the whole world and Communicate, and that right there. I just had this little epiphany in my mind. I'm just like, dude, you know what we could do for the power of just the voice of our energy as humans and Like say, hey, you know, let's send out this massive prayer, or sent energy, or hey, everybody, let's you think about this. And so it's like you could be at all five points of their earth and create this like global, like thank you, because it's a conference, like me thinking to lane, like sending you energy and then you send it to my man and it's like this you know ray of energy that just is, it's just untapped. We've never done that and it's like holy cow. I think that like we as humans are not really seeing the full Interconnect ability between this kind of thing. So I kind of was just I had this epiphany.
Speaker 5:I was really really really stone half this really good stuff, that one man. It was great. But yeah, those are my thoughts. I just wanted to share that with you guys. Hey, I think it's neat that I get to talk to you. You're in Canada, he's in Idaho. I'm not sure my man is. You know, east Coast. West Coast is like you know I'll be. He's across the waters, it's like, you see, I think as well, and breezy as well. It's like, wow, that's so neat, it's just so neat. So, yeah, I'm rambling.
Speaker 3:Hey, that's a good ramble, bro. I love that. I love thoughts like that and you're absolutely right. I mean, look at this as small of a room that we have right now. We have multiple countries in here right now. Yeah, look at this. We got Canada, usa, jamaica, philippines, is that it? Oh, nigeria, that's crazy. That's a really good point. I love that man. That's a really powerful Innovation and I guess I've been in it my whole life.
Speaker 3:You know, even in the third grade the news channels came to our elementary school because our class got to kind of pioneer an experiment with email and we were pen pals with another elementary school in like Poca-talo, and the news came and asked us and I, I remember just thinking and telling the news people. I was kind of nervous there, you know, the cameras were on and I was gonna be on news at seven o'clock that night and they're like so what do you think about this email stuff? And I'm like it's really cool. I have a friend hundreds of miles away and I can talk to him, like he's right here and like I guess I've just been so Consumed with internet since that day that and it's basically been in my life, my whole life, even though I Emma 80s, 90s baby and I saw it kind of have its moment and birth.
Speaker 3:Just think about, like younger kids now. They didn't really get to see any transition and it has truly been in their life, their whole life, and I I do Hope that my kids have that takeaway as well of like, wow, this is Special, this is remarkable, because yeah, and then and then you just look at the specific use case how we can sit down a couple times a week and have a book club Hundreds of miles away from each other. I love that. That's a good, deep, high Ryan thought.
Speaker 3:And if, if, ryan, if you never do the reading and you just bring awesome deep thoughts like that. That's awesome. I love that.
Speaker 4:You know, as I was picturing, you explain that storyline. I was thinking of you, you know, nine years old, with a pandemania jumpsuit and just a shaggy beard and just like yeah, just check out my back door.
Speaker 3:Man, if only I didn't even have to start shaving till I was 22. I was a Late bloomer, so if you caught me in my pre 20s, I was. I was about five foot three and Like 75 pounds. I was so tiny. So just imagine miniature lane was truly miniature.
Speaker 4:Have the gross perk. Are you still five foot three?
Speaker 3:I, luckily, despite all of my like, crying and and pouting throughout my years of being a late bloomer, I did finally grow. My parents told me I would, and it was. It was about the age of 18 to 22. I grew. It was pretty late, but yeah, I can now compete on the basketball court with the bigger guys and it Does me no good.
Speaker 3:I lost out on all the collegiate opportunities. Much joking I. I just like to play sports. I never expected that anyways, but no, I, I, I really think that it's awesome having technology.
Speaker 3:I mean, really that's a good. That's a good point also to like be careful of getting trapped in that also. I think there's a good balance of keeping real-life interactions and even like books. You know, like I, I think if you look into studies and of screens and different lights with how it affects your eyes and even physical, you know Things that your body can can experience from screens. I think it's it's awesome and I love technology and I love that, that opportunity. But it's also really cool and important, in my opinion, to take a little break from that and Consume something on paper and have conversations face-to-face and have that nice balance. But gosh, a Lot of people don't Just don't even have that opportunity to meet face-to-face. Yeah, good, deep thoughts. Now you got me thinking all over the place, ryan Dapp. What do you, what do you think about those deep thoughts, and is there any way you could tie this back into the book? I Enjoyed going off on that tangent.
Speaker 7:I Don't know if you're gonna be able to tie it back into the book other than its location. It's next to the sea and the sea is what connects everything.
Speaker 3:I Knew you could do it. I knew you could do it. That was perfect.
Speaker 7:But the deep thoughts. Imagine how many years it would have, it would have consumed, traveling via horse or whatnot to transport a letter to and from someone. And you take the amount of hours that we have put into the book time. How many times we would be dead already probably.
Speaker 3:I Like drop. I love that. That is really true. That kind of gives me anxiety, thinking about the olden days when you had to deliver a letter by horse. Yeah.
Speaker 7:You're like well, did she find someone else? Is she's still waiting on me? And Then you die at war. And then she continues to think oh, he's still out there, he's pondering about me, I Will wait for you. And Then, four years later, I wasted all my life, you know imagine that at least now. It's like you know someone. You know someone blocks you or something. It's a sigh. Okay, I get it. I get it. Cool, We'll move on.
Speaker 5:Well, honey, I'm still here.
Speaker 3:I like the voices. That's hilarious. I think you know I have to comment about the deep doctrine, if you will, of this book the mother, the asteroid. I really enjoy, edward, how you have kind of taken this mother doctrine and kind of twisted it into human history. It's like because of mother we went from basically hunters and gatherers you didn't say that but small little huts to buildings and things that we never would have been able to do without the knowledge and inspiration that mother passed on.
Speaker 3:I think that's so clever because that's actually pretty close to a lot of mythology and beliefs and different zones around the world. I mean, you look throughout Central America and South America and the story of Quetzalcoatl. You go across the ocean and Asia. They have different stories of ancient beings that came across the water, came to them, taught them how to do agriculture, taught them how to plant seeds, taught them how to essentially fast forward their civilizations. That is how the Incans and the Mayans came to be and their pyramids came to be so wonderful. It was so eerily similar to what was going on in Egypt at that same time. Well, it's because they got a visit too. There's all those legends of how the Egyptians gained their power and wisdom. It's all legends and myths. Right, it's perfect. It's so cool because now you can come in and be like you know what that was.
Speaker 3:Mother. You're not making reference to that, but that's just where my mind goes with all of these different legends I've heard of. I love that. I love how almost all cultures and religions have some sort of flood story. A lot of cultures and religions have some sort of father to son to. There's a lot of similarities and it's really, really fun. It does make you think, it does make you wonder, it does make you look at the pyramids and look at what humans have done, and look at even ancient Rome and fast forward a little bit more and look at present-day Amsterdam. Look at Holland it's under the ocean. For heaven's sake, what the heck. Humans are amazing. How did we come to be so wonderful? It had to been mother. I just have to touch on that that you've got some pretty deep doctrine that, if you wanted to, edward, are you thinking of starting your own church?
Speaker 4:Who knows, it's probably already started.
Speaker 3:You've got a lot of answers to some deep questions of life. My friend, where did we come from? Why are we here Now? I'm just wondering where are we going? Are you going to answer that?
Speaker 4:Who knows? We hope I mean that's bookends, so I hope there's something at the end of it. But yeah, the whole idea with mother I was looking up Egyptian goddesses and stuff. I don't know if I actually touched on it, but Anna is short for Inanna and that was actually one of the goddesses of the Egyptian times, yeah, so I wanted to really dive into Egyptian religion. And then also there's also some stuff about the Philippines and stuff you'll read about later.
Speaker 4:I wanted to connect everything together and just do something fun. I looked up a lot of facts and stuff as well. Just make it feel more believable than it actually is, because I want you to be in that world and realize that this stuff is possible, even with the superpowers and stuff. Everything is slowly introduced to make people that are reading it start to believe it as well. It makes the crazy stuff make a little bit more sense as you go on. I mean, that was the intention. I don't know if it came off that way when I wrote this. Like, reading through it now, there are a couple of hiccups where I'm like I don't know if I should have added that, or looking at it and thinking, yeah, that isn't very consistent with how I had it at first Because, like I told you before, a lot of this was wrote kind of as I wrote it as what's that term? I let the kind of the story guide me when I was writing it, as opposed to Winters Eve, I had the whole story like planned out.
Speaker 3:Could you call that improv, or is that just acting?
Speaker 4:Probably improvisation Improved.
Speaker 5:More so.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah that worked.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was definitely improv, like a lot of the story as I was writing it. It was like okay, so what would this character do? Okay, so now we're coming back to this character and then after I was finished it like the stuff that didn't make sense. I completely took out like there there was even more chapters in this. I think I said before but I had to just cut it because a lot of it didn't make sense.
Speaker 4:But I'm seeing like trails from like my previous thoughts still lingering in the chapters so there might be some inconsistency. Like I'm pretty sure there's inconsistencies with Morgan, because I think at one point I said she was super old and then, like I said she's 400 years old and so I get pretty sure she was like the way I was talking before she was. She was there during like the building of the Egyptians and stuff. Like I had stuff like that in there as well. But yeah, I took a lot of inspiration from the like Egyptian hieroglyphics and stuff about that and how you know gods came to be and how they believed in gods. So I kind of wanted to go with that and then that whole idea of you know some supernatural stuff going on as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's that. That really took me back to some fun stuff I've researched and looked into. Now I I at one point really got into my ins and the whole 2012 end of the world Mayan calendar thing really was interesting to me. Back at that time, I literally stood outside in the middle of the street waiting for the waiting for something to happen to the moon and I was like damn it, if the Mayans can't be right, what? What are we doing here? No, I wasn't.
Speaker 4:And meanwhile, while you're out there, Evelyn Winters was dying.
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Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly. So I'm really loving how you're you're mixing some fun. I don't know what you call that, just yeah, theology you know different belief systems and different world theories. I like how you're mixing that in there. So I was curious if you had maybe taken a dive into some Egyptian history or Mayans or Incans or anything like that. Does any of that stuff interest you? Have you? Have you looked more into that other than just the. Egyptians.
Speaker 4:Well, not only that, but me and Caitlin got the pleasure to go down and see the Mayan temples as well, so we were down there hearing their stories and stuff that was only in was last year, and man, it's just crazy, the stuff they believed in and the human sacrificing and stuff that they did for their gods and they have like tournaments where they would play this sport, where they'd have to hit a ball up into like the side of a wall and and from what they read and what they're describing, the loser lost their head, like you imagine. Playing that kind of a sport, like tournaments, must have been like wild back then.
Speaker 3:Oh man, yeah, I just have that Mel Gibson film Apocalypto running through my mind. Now Go ahead, Mike man.
Speaker 6:Hey, yeah, I'm going to jump off for the night, but your writing styles that you were talking about, edward, I think you're referring to plotter versus pancer style, where plotters plot out the story in advance and kind of stick to it and pancer is kind of right by the seat of their pants and let the story dictate where it goes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I wasn't thinking the term writing by the seat of my pants. That was the term I was thinking about. Yeah, so the first book was potters and then, yeah, pancers was the second term. Yeah, I just wanted to write something that was different, just go out of my comfort zone all together and try and develop a world. And now, the fun thing about it now is third book. I'm trying to tie both of those books together. They're like two completely different stories, which is kind of fun.
Speaker 6:It is interesting because I think this book is better written than the first one. So I don't know if, like maybe this is your style of writing that seems to work better for you, or if it's just more practice and a symptom of that. So it'll be interesting to see how your next book reads.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I appreciate that and I hope, once I get a few more chapters, maybe after this, we don't have to do it as like a book time or anything, but we could like maybe start just reading some of the chapters on our own, maybe give me some pointers, or maybe even like everyone, pitched in and helped with the story too. I think that'd be kind of fun. Where they would like to see the characters go oh man, wouldn't that be a cool idea. They're like I'd write a chapter and then you guys would like give me suggestions on where the story goes. I think that'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 3:Hey, that's not a bad idea. Future, a future round of book club, that's awesome. Hey, might man. Thanks for coming through. My friend and you just blew my mind with that those terminologies that you just dropped on us Plotters and Panthers. When you first said Panthers I was like what the hell is a panther and fly by the seat of your pants. I love that. I love that. I've never heard that. I like that a lot, thank you.
Speaker 6:Yep, I will catch you guys next time. We'll see what crazy stuff Edward has in store for us for the next pages.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think we're reading to the end of part two now. I think, that's the next thing to go. Just finished part two. But, man, it's always a pleasure, my man. I even like you when you pop into the other spaces. You know you can always pop up and chat. It's good to have you, buddy. Yep, I'll definitely do that more.
Speaker 6:We'll just talk to you guys. We'll catch you later.
Speaker 3:Thanks, my man. Tell the team good luck on your games, bro. That's awesome. Hey, edward Shoot, I had something I was going to say. What did you just say right before? I said something.
Speaker 4:I don't know, I'm so tired.
Speaker 3:Oh no, oh man, It'll come back to me. It'll come back to me.
Speaker 4:Was it my writing style about choosing our own story?
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, what was it? That's what you were talking about. That's what we were talking about. Oh man, damn it. It was a really good thought. It'll come back to me, though. I promise it will. Okay, so, edward, now that we are gearing up for the end of part two, I am curious what is the defining separation between these chapters? If you could name these parts or categorize them, are they fitting with the parts of a story? Can you separate them with the plot, the different parts of the story? Does part two or does part three? Where is the culminating point? Does any of that line up, or can you separate the different parts in your head in certain ways at all?
Speaker 4:Lane, I don't know if you're high. I don't know if I'm high. I don't understand the question.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it's a terrible question.
Speaker 4:Where are you going with that? You've got four parts.
Speaker 3:At what point? I'll break it down into questions. Here we go. When are we going to run into the culminating point? Where does the climax happen? Are we close to it?
Speaker 4:Okay, so each part has its own little plot story line, as you've seen. The first one was all about Leland. It was very heavily focused on what was going on with her.
Speaker 3:The second part Okay, that was part of my question too. Part one now you've got Flower of Hope. That left my mind that you have labeled these. But what was part one? Mostly Leland, right, that was like a flower hope.
Speaker 4:If you look up Leland, that's what flower hope means.
Speaker 3:Wait, okay, okay, keep going. Yeah, my terrible question. You're answering it perfectly.
Speaker 4:When she dies, all hope is lost. That was kind of like the whole point. She was lost in the well. That was kind of. The whole idea of her name was that all hope was lost. The idea behind that they find her, they see her. You think things are going to be hopeful again, that she's going to be okay. She loses her life and then all hope is lost.
Speaker 4:The gods false gods the whole section is about what's going to happen. What are the gods? Who are they? You get a lot of detail from that. Each one's also broken down into days. The first part is just one day. The second part is two weeks later. The third part is a month later. So it really separates with each section. You'll see what I'm talking about. Not only that part three. We're going to be diving deeper into the whole cult and the ritual. It's going to be exciting to see what happens. Then you have our final part. It was meant to be an epilogue, but I just kept writing it more. The last part was just meant to be a chapter, but it ended up being, like, I think, five. So that's a very small part, but I feel like when we go to read it, we're probably just going to read that part as its own thing. Part four you could probably read on its own.
Speaker 3:Hey, we got there, See. My question produced the perfect answer. Those were the answers I was looking for. That was amazing. Now I have another question for you. Have you ever, in this book, specifically killed off a character and you actually had a hard time doing it and you're like, should I be doing this? This doesn't feel right. I actually really like this character, but it was so perfect as far as writing goes that you couldn't help yourself and you had to kill them. Have you had these thoughts at all?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, pretty much every character I struggle whether I want to kill them off or not and it is definitely tough, and some characters I had a really hard time. I even dragged their story out even longer because I just didn't want to. I think that was kind of like the same with Evelyn, like I just didn't want to kill her off but, you know, had no other choice. It kind of wouldn't have ended well if she didn't.
Speaker 3:Okay, now I have a very similar question. It's almost the opposite and I'm getting this question is inspiration from Breaking Bad. I might be wrong on this, but I was told I need to look this up. But Jesse Pinkman's character, aaron Paul, aaron Paul's character, jesse Pinkman I guess he was only supposed to be maybe an episode or two and then he wasn't even going to be a main part of the character. He got such great reviews and people love the character that they wrote him in and he became like a staple, huge part of the show. And that was obviously if that is true, that that comes down to ratings and viewing numbers and all of that television talk. But have you ever had something similar happen with that, where you liked a character so much and you had a plan for them but then you're like, no, I do, and you kind of said that you would kind of keep their story going. But have you? Has it ever changed the story dramatically for you in that sense?
Speaker 4:With this book. There were so many changes to the ending. I don't think. Did I tell you this that this was supposed to be? I think I did. I told you that this was supposed to be kind of like Evelyn Winter's story, right Like this was supposed to be the book she was writing Asylum.
Speaker 3:You've told us now that's so crazy. So you really?
Speaker 4:did? Did I also tell you that the characters were also supposed to be her different personalities?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you mentioned that. Yeah, Are you? Are you still going to like make use of that idea? I don't mean to tangent already, but no.
Speaker 4:I liked it, but I just I didn't really want to retell her story, especially like story within a story. So instead of that, I she's been in that hospital, like it's the same hospital that she was, in which I'm pretty sure I told you guys about that as well, did I?
Speaker 3:I can't remember if you told us that detail, but that, yeah, that's an awesome tie-in.
Speaker 4:So yeah, like. So in the third book we're going to get Dr Whitman come back and he's going to be like. We'll know some more about the fact that he worked at the Asylum as well before he left and took up his own practice, so he'll also have known some of these characters. So it's going to be cool. I'm going to be able to go back and discuss some of these characters and, as we all know that Morgan lived a long life. Evelyn actually knew Morgan, so that's something else that's going to be brought up in the next book.
Speaker 3:That's great. Oh, I love how you're piecing it all together and in a panzer style, but it sure does sound like you're plotting it out, though you know that it is a.
Speaker 4:It's becoming more yeah, like I've potted out the next three books but like, how that direction will go will probably change as I'm writing, because I might not like it when I get to that point. You know what I mean. Like it, just it always changes. But I decided I really wanted to plan out. So there's going to be five books. Then they're all going to be different kind of categories. First one was a haunted house. Second one was a cult. Third one's going to be about serial killer. The fourth one is going to be more about like time and a sci fi kind of, you know, going through time and stuff. And then the last one is going to be a apocalypse. So I don't want to go into too much detail and stuff because I don't want to food.
Speaker 3:Can you at least tell me what time period the apocalypse will take place?
Speaker 4:I don't really want to say too much, but this book is kind of leading into the apocalypse.
Speaker 3:That's cool. Oh, you're hitting some really fun categories with all that. Those are all like those draw crowds. Haunted house check, cult check, serial killer. I mean just look at like the top trending shows. You pull up Netflix. I mean those, those are hits, that's awesome. And time travel. And what was the last one? Again the apocalypse.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So it's kind of like if you ever watched American Horror Story. Every like story is completely different but it all follows this like a timeline of sorts. I always liked that idea and when I was doing these stories like, I wanted to like have all of them kind of in the same timeline but I wanted to write different genres each time of horror. I'd never really planned a time in this much, but now it's kind of like you know, it could totally be done and I like that idea of even bringing characters back from this book into other chapters. I think is going to be pretty cool.
Speaker 3:Oh man, that's really great. I was thinking of Black Mirror. But they don't tie any of their episodes together, do they? They're, they're all.
Speaker 4:I think so. I think they're all like one offs.
Speaker 3:One offs, yeah, I mean, that's a lot of Black Mirror. Right, yeah, that's that. I mean Edward's style leans Black Mirror too, just with the. I mean, now that you're talking about time travel, yeah, you're hitting some some Black Mirror vibes also with your writing, I think.
Speaker 4:Yeah look, so we've. We've met a character that can like use telekinesis, I think. Do you guys know what Luna's power is yet? I'm not sure if you guys have kind of come to grasp with that yet.
Speaker 3:I'm not quite. I'm not quite sure, other than maybe manipulation.
Speaker 7:Can she replace herself with others?
Speaker 4:Almost like, maybe mind control. I'll say yeah, yeah, so yeah, and then you have characters that can read minds. So we're also going to have a character in this story that can actually travel through time. I love that how. I don't want to say what it is. Instruments yes.
Speaker 3:Can you tell me if they use instruments and tools and devices? Or is it pure like open up a portal with your mind and hands, type stuff and, like wavy lengths of light, start opening up? You know what I mean? Like is it tech or magic?
Speaker 4:I guess it would be more like magic than anything else. They just have the ability to go through time, but they don't know that power yet. So we'll get to see that in like book four, because like book three actually takes place before book two. And I'll explain that as well, because obviously I don't want to go too far in it. So yeah, so book three is kind of just takes place just before book two, and then book four takes place like after book two, and then book five takes place after book two.
Speaker 3:Now, let's say you have all five books done, they're all published. Do you have future plans to kind of like bundle these together and market them as a series, or do you want it to be like oh, Stephen King's book just came out. You read it and you're like holy shit, this has something to do with Stephen King's last book and kind of a surprise.
Speaker 4:I think I'd like the surprise more so than anything else. I kind of like them to be separate stories so that you can actually read it, but anyone that picks it up and has read prior will be like oh wow, like that's really cool. I think two and four are really going to tie really close together, so they're going to be kind of like sequels to each other, but the other books are not so much.
Speaker 3:Have you by chance read any Dean Coons?
Speaker 4:I've tried to read Dean Coons, but I couldn't really get into his books.
Speaker 3:Which of his did you try?
Speaker 4:There's a winter one. I tried. I can't remember the name of it. I honestly got through part of it and I was just like ugh. And there was another one. I read where the house is alive and it's AI.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm talking about. I've only read a couple of his Odd Thomas series and that one it's actually a pretty clever idea, the one that I read I think the first I can't remember simply Odd Odd Thomas I forget what the titles of the books were, but he communicates with the dead and there's some humor throughout the book and all of this lets to come visit him and he has the sheriff of the town hits him up for help on different cases and murder cases. He can obviously help because the dead are there. So, anyways, that led me to ask do you have any plans of like zombie or speaking with the dead, like anything in that category? I mean, you kind of have a little bit.
Speaker 4:We'll perceive. Yeah, so Evelyn's able to speak with the dead. That's like her superpower.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's right. That's right, okay. Last question you did. You mentioned AI. How about that? Any AI within, like the apocalypse? Is that going to be a part of it at all?
Speaker 4:I don't know, I never really thought of that, Maybe not. I definitely do want to write an AI story, but I don't know, I don't think AI would be. I mean, who knows? I mean the apocalypse could have some sort of AI technology. I was thinking more biblical. You know where, like the four horsemen, and then, like you know, one third of the population dies. You know the whole Genesis.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I hear you. Okay, I'm excited about all the files of Lotus, I don't know. So what's your, what's your timeline? Do you think from book five? Do you? Do you think like that, like set a timeline at all and go, go, let out like that?
Speaker 4:The worst thing is, when I wrote the other two I was like book focused, but now that I have a project it's really hard to make time. It's like I'm I'm spread out too much. So like every day I do put some ideas down, but like I don't get to write like I used to, and that's a little bit unfortunate, but I'm trying to. I'm hoping that once you know we get a few things done with sweets, I'll be able to kind of like let other people run, you know, take the reins, while I can work on more of my stuff, you know still be there but be more of like the figurehead sort of thing, as opposed to, you know, running the whole thing.
Speaker 3:Speaking of which, edward, I just remembered my question and it had to do with spaces and just what you're talking about running, running stuff and I noticed that you've been doing some spaces. I missed an invite to one of yours. You sent me a message, so what are you doing?
Speaker 4:Yeah, so we're just having some fun daily spaces. We have people come up and just, you know, talk about crypto or whatever it's more. So, just to kind of keep consistency and, you know, have an audience built, we have the guy from Wabalabaland come in tomorrow to pop into space with us. That'd be fun and I'd love to have you guys come in as well. We can definitely do a Panamania space. I think it'd be just fun. You know, like whenever you're free, but it's going to be, I'm going to try to do it daily. It's just it's hard to like find a perfect time because of my work schedule is so all over the place. But you know, even if I can do an hour a day or even have somebody else use the account and, you know, pop in, do spaces to keep it consistent.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. I'm going to keep a look out for your spaces. Pop in.
Speaker 4:That's exciting and well yeah it's, I think, 12 PST tomorrow. I don't know what that is. Are you CST?
Speaker 3:I'm a mountain time.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, so you're actually the same time as me right now, because apparently in Dosset Creek we don't have daily savings, so we're in the same as mountain time right now.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. That's a good time zone. Yes, that's a good time zone.
Speaker 4:Tomorrow it's one o'clock for us, Okay sweet, that works out perfect.
Speaker 3:I'll hop in.
Speaker 4:Wee yeah, come in, man. I don't know if you met DeMarco. He's a pretty cool guy.
Speaker 3:That's exciting. I like making new friends.
Speaker 4:Shout out to chat too, Like you don't have to just listen. Come up and chat and ask some questions and stuff.
Speaker 3:I think it's a pretty cool project. Okay, cool. You said Wabalaba, is that in reference to Rick from Rick and Morty?
Speaker 4:Yes, it is. Yeah, like is art work and stuff. Is that all just like that? But he's got that kind of like vibe. It's pretty cool man, I like his stuff.
Speaker 3:I'm a fan of Rick and Morty, anything, anything.
Speaker 4:Have you been watching Rick and Morty?
Speaker 3:I have like two seasons that I can binge and I've just been waiting for the right moment. I need to catch up. I'm so excited.
Speaker 4:You've got to start watching it. Put the books down. Stop reading the books. Start watching Rick and Morty.
Speaker 3:I don't know what's happened to me. It's like I'm too busy reading books to watch TV now. That's the worst.
Speaker 4:Oh, man but. I really need to go to sleep. I am super tired. I don't know. You finishing the space sooner.
Speaker 3:I appreciate you greatly. I will wrap it up. Yeah, we've got, we've got. It's a Wednesday and we're all feeling it, it sounds like, and we need to get some rest so that we can finish out the week strong. I just wanted to shout out Jazzy with primates, Thanks for coming through. You can always hop up to speaker as well. I'll shoot a invite. We're just going to be wrapping up here, but if you'd like to say what up, that goes for anyone. And Edward, I'm going to give you the privilege here, good sir, of giving us our number for the giveaway tonight, if you would be so kind, before we let you run off 13, because that's how many people are in here.
Speaker 3:Oh, I like it. I like it 13. We're going to run it.
Speaker 4:I like when he's tapping buttons because apparently he feels like he's just.
Speaker 3:He's just hitting random things to make it sound like I'm running the wheel. Let me run in the wheel. Congratulations to CA. Yeah and hey, for anyone that is curious oh, jazzy's come up. Okay, I'll catch up here with Jazzy. Edward, I won't let, I won't make you stick around. Let's, let's all get some good sleep tonight and we'll catch up next Monday. For the end of part two. We're reading to the end of part two.
Speaker 4:Come on in tomorrow. Primates, love to hear from you as well. Pop into her sweets chat tomorrow. Thank you.
Speaker 8:Sorry I'm jumping in late guys Now, I always try and jump into this one but I'm all. It's literally a time that I'm in between things with the wife and stuff, so I'm really glad jumped in the end. But I certainly will. Edward, I'll jump into your space tomorrow, for sure. You know, and I much love everyone, like I fucking love the Panda family. I just want to get into your spaces a lot more, so I will be trying to tap in a lot more lane, for sure. Hope you're well, brother.
Speaker 3:Same to you, bro. It just, it just brightens my day to hear your cool ass accent, your awesome vibes. You're always bringing some great vibes, my man. Thank you so much, and hey, I've got to get with you on on some stuff you told me.
Speaker 8:Yeah, man, you got some free minutes for your community brother.
Speaker 3:Yes, so I got it. I just we got a link up. So if you're busy, I appreciate you so much. Thanks to you.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I love the Halloween mint you had and the art was so fun. My family were all such lovers of that genre and scary movies and stuff, so that was so fun.
Speaker 8:Yeah, man, just it spurred out of like a six days back and forth with my new creative artists from the community. I was like, hey, bro, could you do these little masks? And he came back with absolute killer ones. I'm like, oh, this is too good art. I'm like, do you, could you do me 10 more traits? And then he just smashed it. I was like, ok, in six days time it's Halloween. Ok, let's do a community vote.
Speaker 8:And we did a community like free, free claim for any private holders and then a D gen price 0.0066. And the benefit of it is, if you mint a paid mint, you actually get free t-shirt as well, which is a holder's only claim. It's pretty dope, I think. And it's also a free claim to our next season collection coming up as well, which is spent a lot more time on. There's a little bit of a little bit of a few things there, but make sure you get those that claim, brother, for your, your primates. And then, yeah, I'd love to share maybe a couple free mints to the Panda family. You know, maybe do a holders holders giveaway and stuff like that. You know, share back, as always.
Speaker 3:That's amazing, awesome. Yeah, let's, let's catch up and I'll get. I'll get the details for me in the DMs. And I just am in love with your decks also, bro, I've got to get myself because I've I got a new deck. It must be 10 years ago now and I steal this is how little I skate now is I still feel like that deck is new and it's like no, bro, it's been 10 years. I need a new deck. I've probably lost my pop, you know, and so I need to figure out how I can get my hands on one of those sick decks, bro.
Speaker 8:Anytime, man, just just tap me, tap in with me, you're all good. We've now actually got nine new sizes for decks as well, including longboards, kids kickers I'm actually in talks with an electric skateboard company as well and a one wheel. So I know you, my brother loves your one wheel One. I do have the opportunity to do some graphic stickers for it. So, no, like an actual vinyl for your one wheel, like specific to your one wheel design and everything like that. So I've got an opportunity to do that for you. But yeah, our boards we've got nine different sizes.
Speaker 8:I just done a post actually of two of the new boards that received. I received two days ago, freaking dope, the Halloween exclusive, and the mental health awareness board as well. Yeah, man, we've got lots coming and I've also got something to do. A lot of projects might be interesting soon, which is going to be one of our like print on demand board shops that I've created. So then you know, partnered projects like yourself would be able to submit some designs and we can make some one of ones or some bulk order formats for communities and stuff.
Speaker 3:That's great, bro. I'm so glad you popped in and I got to catch up on a little bit of primates action and hear your voice. And yeah, tomorrow. You know Edward, he's got a lot of you know soul communities and projects that he's kind of hanging out with, so that might not be a bad idea if you want to pop in your space tomorrow.
Speaker 8:Yeah, for sure, man. And if you're after a skateboard, a bit of alpha for the room, although it's recorded so good. Our next little collection is going to be a Christmas collection, and if you mint three of them, you'll be able to get a skateboard.
Speaker 3:Oh, you're doing it, right Doing it right, I love it. That's so cool. That's almost exactly what we're going to be kind of doing with our little panda cubs collection, is it comes with physical products? That's. I love that, bro.
Speaker 8:That's so cool Way forward for all of us real builders and real fucking utility out here. We know we can provide for our community. What a fuck. Not, you know. I sit back and I see all these projects meant out and go, oh, I've got 200 from the meat now. Great. What did you do for everyone? You didn't do shit. So it's time for us to really push and show. This is what we've done. Look, you know I've always said, mate, you're an inspiration to me for everything you've ever done. And your whole, like your utility, gets bigger and bigger. And that's where, you know, I like to base my bits on that. And as we build, I don't like just one, one option for our holders. You know, if we can move in multiple directions and succeed in it, why not? You know that's what we're three is all about, isn't it?
Speaker 3:I think so. I think so, and I have to tell you I spoke with my buddy, truss I still can't say his first name properly like he wants me to. Truss brattas, from Norway. He owns a really cool bag company and I think I mentioned that to you last time. Yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah, he, he would be down to have a conversation and he's got really cool products. It's it's expensive products, though, but, man, like they've put like it's into protecting your surfboard.
Speaker 3:You know, you fly from California down to Hawaii expecting your surfboard to make it safe and it shows up broken. I mean, that's like. That's like heartbreaking for for a true surfer with their surfboard, with memories. So yeah, they put a lot of time and research into getting your board, whether it's a surfboard or snowboard. They've got all sorts of different cool products. So I'll have to get you in touch with him.
Speaker 8:Yeah, for sure, man For sure, I've, with our new Web 2 focused website. That's literally the one of the main reasons why I redesigned the website so we can approach those sort of companies. I'm already talking with Billabong and Ripcar at the moment. I've got to hit a few targets with them guys. But you know, these are the sorts of avenues we're going in. I've got a one of one like a limited edition surfboard factory in Byron Bay that I'm working on that. They do literally $20,000 pieces as a one of one. We're talking with them on doing a limited edition acrylic style with them. So might be some decent there. But yeah, that also gets us into other avenues with skateboards and or snowboards and surfboards and yeah, and then bags mate is the next avenue as well, because it's all brandage. It's all brandable and you know the the lifecycle of boarding is exactly what we're trying to do.
Speaker 3:That's what we had to. We had a great book space and we got to top it off like a cherry on top with primates catching up with Jazzy. Thank you, good surf, for coming through. I appreciate it, surf, surf. Yeah, ryan's, a big boarder. He used to be a big time snowboarder. Ryan, have you ever surfed, or or? I don't know if I remember.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I used to go out to West Point or Westport and hit the corner here in Washington Some brutal waves man and tell you what. It was cold, so cold. But when I ventured over to Hawaii got to experience that, that was like beyond anything I ever could imagine. It was the joy of my life. I would just like when I put myself in my happy spot. That is my happy spot.
Speaker 8:Beautiful. That's so great to hear, you know, and it's that. It's that sitting on the water out there and just the calmness and waiting and just being patient, you know, meditate it's beautiful way of form of meditation out there, you know, and having that peaceful and the water is lovely. I can't do recently because of my injury, but you know, one day I'll be getting out there and it's enjoyable.
Speaker 8:I was actually down in Byron Bay last week and then I was in Sydney and one of our Surfers he's a world's freestyle surfer who's actually done in Sydney and Bondi doing a competition. It's beautiful, but the waves just weren't with him and it is like if this wasn't a competition I really wouldn't be out there. But he went out there and killed it, did a load of flips with the board, like he's a freestyle Surfer, so he leaves the board and the board spins and all it's. He's freaking insane. It was wicked just to sit there and just, you know, take it in and really watch some cool athletes just come together. It's great. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 8:And guess this? I even used my pandemania voucher and discount in Byron Bay because there's six locations in Byron Bay you can now get hold of. So get on it and when you anyone Wants to come to Australia, there is now 52 locations available on the holiday form To get amongst it and massive savings. I'm a big advocate for looking for great deals and, to be honest, pandemania has converted me away from the corporate crap, so thank you.
Speaker 3:Yo, that was amazing. I I have to let everyone know I paid him to come in and say that that was all planned. No, that was. That was off the top of the dome. Thank you, jesse, that was awesome bro.
Speaker 8:I might you know it's got it down. It was amazing, my wife, you, you're one of the people that converted my wife to see the benefit in NFTs. Yeah, honestly, like we, we have shares in Disney. I have the same process with Disney. I have shares in Disney and we've got like a time seeing and they've got their RCI, which is a form of like this, and I'm telling your discounts, blow that shit out the water. And to a point, my wife's like I'm only holding Disney because it's Disney and that's it. And now she's seeing this time. Okay, hmm, he's done it. Well, man.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. Oh, thanks for the thanks for the review. That was a really good two thumbs up. I appreciate that. Good sir, I might. I might clip that and ask for your permission to share that You're allowed it.
Speaker 8:I give you permission.
Speaker 3:Oh, my goodness, you're. You're one of the good ones, jazzy. Thank you, my friend, for always Reminding me that the space has some really good people in it. All you guys, ryan, dapp, dem, reese, mochi, arthur, ca, jack, ivan the goat, jordan, ryan, who is this down here? Mr Snorlax, thanks for joining us. I like your cute little PFP I don't know what that. That is cute, that's adorable. But I just appreciate you guys for coming through. I apologize for those of us that are sleepy For extending it a little bit. I had to catch up with my man, jazzy. That was worth it. I just really appreciate you, my friend and Ryan, I appreciate you. Thanks for your deep thoughts and Dapp.
Speaker 8:I'll do a quick Twitter picker for the room and someone's gonna win a primate Halloween.
Speaker 3:Let's do that, hey, yeah, oh my gosh, you're crazy, you're amazing. Thanks, jazzy, actually you have low.
Speaker 8:We've got five retweets. Do you want me to reach a picker winner from the five or everyone in the room you choose, brother oh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'd say someone here in the room if there's any way you can do that.
Speaker 8:Yeah, I'll quickly do a name name spinner in my discord. Give me two seconds, I'm gonna screenshot it. So now I can write everyone's names down, all right?
Speaker 3:Dang, you're awesome. Yeah, as he thinks, and then I'll link up with you on on those other awesome Offers you you gave. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 8:Anytime, I Just run the picker now for it and then you can close down amazing.
Speaker 3:And Dapp we've. We've kept Dapp over there quiet for a little bit. You still with us, or do you doze off my friend?
Speaker 7:I'm here.
Speaker 3:Do you have any any final inspiring thoughts to leave with us tonight?
Speaker 7:Just think about the horses what they did for us back in the day and they don't do for us now. It's it for when people money lose, people money. Give rich people things to do and and stand up for legs and look pretty Instead of you know. Cross-country male service.
Speaker 5:Now we have 18 for that yes, so there is a.
Speaker 7:Every day you can find a memorial to those horses. It's called horsepower. It's somewhere on your car, I'm sure shall be our mustang.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I am going to take a few moments out of my day, every day, to thank the horses of the past. Thanks for reminding me, dapp. Yeah, I.
Speaker 7:Get on Facebook you'll be like how many damn horses, all this data, my god, I Can just message my mom. It was a took in two months for a damn horse to go across the country. And think about the things rattlesnake, infant tiger, alkaline water, whatever it is all that stuff that was an organ trail.
Speaker 3:You had to cross the river on a ferry and shoot buffaloes and prairie dogs with a mouse.
Speaker 5:That was a fun game.
Speaker 7:It was. Yeah, I don't think I ever made it, never. There was another one came out Amazon Trail. Did anybody ever play that one?
Speaker 3:No that like, yeah, like the.
Speaker 7:Amazon. Yeah you, you were in a boat and you had to like. You had a spearfish, see like there's stingrays and Whatever else era want us. That's not to be confused with a plant. Yeah, Erdogan the one that jumps like six foot out of the water no, oh, sounds like we it's something for calories, you can consume it. I Guess it's similar there. But yeah, I ended up learning about like Theodore Roosevelt through that, because he had to do a lot with, like, conservation of stuff, so he actually went to South America.
Speaker 5:Can't tell me education about him and teddy bears.
Speaker 7:Oh Well, I thought I thought that teddy bears were derived from him, correct? Yeah, okay, so well, there you go, teddy bears.
Speaker 5:Thank you, thank that president over here laughing yeah.
Speaker 7:Well, and then, yeah, and then you learn about all these horrible diseases, really bad stuff. That like what is the one oh, what's the really bad one that you can get in South America? That like you just have like diarrhea until you die, basically.
Speaker 5:Does it start with it?
Speaker 7:malaria, it's malaria. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, malaria. You learn about it a lot and like, if you ever got in that game, you're pretty much just toast, like you might as well, just, you know, delete your say file and start all over again and then it's cool. You like you took pictures of different things. You learn all kinds about different animals, like you know. Probably about you learn about the 90% of stuff down there that will kill you and the 10% of stuff that's okay.
Speaker 7:So, like leaf cutter ants, they won't really hurt you army ants, yeah, goliath bird eating spider of them, spider that eats birds. So there's a lot of like the world's most deadliest stuff down there, and there's a lot of like the world's largest things there too, and they still talk about how not everything's discovered there too. So it's kind of like the Land's version of the ocean as far as like species of things and diversity. So, yeah, back to the horses. Yeah, respect the horses.
Speaker 8:Oh, go ahead, see a.
Speaker 3:See a taking home wins tonight. She is a great community member. To have jazzy, that's amazing, there we go.
Speaker 8:Please DM me your wallet so we can get you a fresh mint over. Hey, sir, you know. Thank you, brother.
Speaker 3:Thank you, brother, and Thank you to everyone and jazzy, all hop in your DMS and We'll we'll keep chatting. I appreciate you, bro, and appreciate everyone. We'll catch up again for the next discussion of keepers of the lighthouse next Monday and I hope you guys have a great rest of your week. Finish out strong. Much love you guys. Have a great rest of your week, good night to the horses and yeah, thank you. Thank you, the pandas of the past. Let me guess.
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