PANDA SPACES

'Disentangling Mysteries & Delving Deep: Initiate into an Enrapturing Narrative of Suspense, Retribution, and Divine Paradoxes'

November 13, 2023 Layne Boyle & Guests Season 1 Episode 194
PANDA SPACES
'Disentangling Mysteries & Delving Deep: Initiate into an Enrapturing Narrative of Suspense, Retribution, and Divine Paradoxes'
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Prepare to dive head-first into an enthralling narrative filled with mystery, suspense, and thought-provoking scenarios! This episode of our podcast leaves you on the edge of your seat as we discuss a gripping storyline laced with a mysterious blonde strand of hair, the ominous final words of a dying character, and the enigmatic image of Luna appearing in cruciform. We analyze the fascinating characters of Caleb and Morgan, delve into the uncanny dreams of Caleb, and ponder on Morgan's mysterious longevity. We'll also try to decode the peculiar circumstances surrounding Ezekiel's unfortunate demise and the dark tale of Morgan's retribution.

Our conversation takes a deep plunge into the story's more intense aspects and a potentially bewildering storyline. We reflect on the strange twist in the bond between Morgan and Zeke and the raw intensity of their adolescent emotions. At the same time, we try to make sense of a vividly graphic dream sequence. The discussion takes an unexpected turn towards divinity as we contemplate the existence of two distinct gods, with one possibly being Margaret's mother. The finale of our chat revolves around the curious case of the mighty Orb and Mother and their chaotic offspring.

Lastly, we tackle some brain-tickling questions — Is Claire really Luna, or is someone else maneuvering her like a puppet, much like Zeke? We also consider Anna's role and the potential connection between Morgan's mother, Dr. Michaels, and the Mother. We wrap things up by sharing our thoughts on the enigma of the Orb, capable of perceiving the beginning and the end of time. Get ready for an invigorating discussion that's a perfect blend of reality and fiction, bound to leave you questioning the very boundaries of both!

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

I hope you enjoyed this video. I hope you enjoyed this video. Bear with me just a second.

Speaker 3:

Someone helped sparky and said there's a bear with him.

Speaker 4:

Someone helped sparky and said there's a bear with him. Someone helped sparky and said there's a bear with him.

Speaker 6:

Someone helped sparky and said there's a bear with him.

Speaker 2:

Someone helped sparky and said there's

Speaker 6:

a bear with him.

Speaker 5:

Someone helped sparky and said there's a bear with him.

Speaker 6:

I'm pretty sure it's the whole thing.

Speaker 2:

The insider, the noose, the package.

Speaker 6:

Maybe the nurse who loved me. It's actually by a perfect circle. You know what. I'm mixing it up.

Speaker 3:

I'm pretty sure it was the nurse who loved me.

Speaker 6:

I'm pretty sure it was the nurse who loved me. The patient is a good sound too.

Speaker 2:

Sorry, this is not functioning for me today. I'm just trying to sort everything out. My wife has been in my area.

Speaker 5:

I heard it, I caught it, daph.

Speaker 3:

I'm relating to that one part in the book.

Speaker 6:

We had some spicy content this morning.

Speaker 3:

I was sitting in the front row at my kids' rugby class. I was like what are you all looking around?

Speaker 6:

I was like what are you doing? I was like what are you doing?

Speaker 7:

I was like what are you doing?

Speaker 5:

I was like what are you doing? I was like, what are you doing? I was like what are you doing? I was like what are you doing? I was like what are you doing?

Speaker 6:

I was like what are you doing? I was like, what are you doing? I was like what are you doing? I was like what are you doing? I was like what are you doing? I was like what are you doing? I was like what are you doing. I was like what are you?

Speaker 5:

doing. I was like what are you doing? I was like what are you doing?

Speaker 6:

What happens if he is chapter and then she goes out and sees him and then she finds a blonde strand of hair, which seems kind of odd, don't you think? Then we get into.

Speaker 5:

Zika's chapter again.

Speaker 6:

It was a long golden. Maybe that's why you thought it was blonde.

Speaker 6:

She found Leland's hair. And then we get into Zika's chapter and he's down in the water and stuff. He notices something on the wall and sees the last shimmering words of the word die. And then he's aware this is at the same part where Justin was when he met the creature. So he's seeing the message that said Caleb must die. Obviously, zika is only seeing a small bit of the words and he's only seeing the die. But that's what kind of ends that chapter. Caleb ends up having a wet dream that ends up being a little too dark for even the book. I don't know if I should go into detail, but we it's not too dark, it was too pornographic, jesus Christ.

Speaker 3:

There were bulges and things you had a lot of Stroking the shaft.

Speaker 6:

It could have been worse. It could have been worse. It was like a teenage orgy. At least, I didn't do that. Now there is something to note, though. In the first part of this book, caleb has a dream and he's with Sophia, but his daughter's name is Kelly, which is pretty interesting that he's dreaming about a girl, so, anyways, we go with His daughter's name is the same as the sister's.

Speaker 6:

Yes, that's strange. And then we get into him having the dream, the pornographic dream, and he wakes up on the altar and he realizes that he's been tricked, molested and raped by Luna, who then stabs him and he blacks out. We end up going into Ezekiel's chapter again, and this is when we find out a bit about the meteorite, we learn about the orb and we find out that at the end of this chapter that Leland has been dead the whole time. Then we get into Charity's chapter. She wakes up to find that Ezekiel is dead, skinned alive, with the words false gods be warned, which is a little nod back to what he's seeing in the chapter about the tentacle thing. I don't know if you guys remember that part. We found a squid hanging on a stick that also said false gods be warned. That was a little foreshadowing, I'm just throwing that out there. Claire then wakes up to the sun. She's having a wonderful day. She finds out about what happened to Ezekiel. She rushes to the hospital. She sees something on the monitor. When they get there, the investigation is going on. The computers, the cameras show a little image of what appears to be Luna, kind of in the position of a cross. She's bleeding, kind of like the stigmata, and then the screen kind of gets messed up and we end up seeing Sophia walking Ezek out of the room.

Speaker 6:

So now, with all that going on and then threatening to fire Claire if she doesn't participate, we move on to the next chapter of Maria and we find out that Maria in this chapter kind of seen everything take place. What was standing by the door. This is kind of like the chapter where we're wondering what's happening with all this imaging, but like Maria is kind of what explains everything that happened. And our last image that she sees before seeing Luna is an image of Morgan Michaels. Then we get into Morgan's chapter. We find out about the pervert who ends up dying. We also find out that Morgan has lived over 180 years. I think that might be a little mistake from prior where I said she's like Ian's old. She's 180 years old but she wasn't born. I think I went on further for that. That was a misstep in the writing so I got to fix that.

Speaker 6:

She ends up killing Huey Baker who is a pedophile, and then, kind of like Carrie, she ends up just destroying the place. It gets rebuilt. Obviously I think if you guys read prior in the earlier chapters. She's the one that describes how there used to be a criminally insane building that was destroyed and then it was turned over into the garden where you see the well and stuff. So yeah, this is the building she was housed in. And there was a reason she was housed in because she has killed people before with her powers, so she's been locked up in there. That place gets destroyed and then they start making sure the medication works to keep her powers at check, because clearly she has a lot of power going on.

Speaker 6:

Then Morgan is confronted by Maria. Maria tells her that you know we're going to have to have a discussion. Morgan's trying to get her not to say anything. Yet, as she does, she wants to talk to her first, but you know what talk means in mafia words. I think she wants to murder Maria. So then we get into Justin's chapter and he's still struggling with the idea of killing Caleb. He doesn't know if he should.

Speaker 5:

I really love that, by the way, you know on the fan of the redemption moment for Justin. I think he's going to stay good. Come on, keep him good.

Speaker 6:

He does sucker, punch Caleb in the face and they get into a scrap.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, but no death yet that's just a schoolyard scuffle. No harm done.

Speaker 6:

So they get into a little scuffle and then he knocks out Dr Freeman. Dr Freeman gets a broken nose to go with his black eye from when he first met him. Dr Freeman gets really bit up in this and then that happens and we realize that charity has snuck off. Then we get into our final chapter of Maria. Maria's goal is to figure out what's in the room. We realize this has been a ruse, that they are the distraction, while Maria breaks into the office of Dr Freeman's because they want to get that book that they were talking about. Obviously there's stuff in that book and they need to find out what's happening. And there's some answers.

Speaker 6:

Maria had recorded their conversation with Morgan that she had prior. Obviously she doesn't trust Morgan, so she's a little sneaky spy herself. So she's playing double agent by the sound of things. And then she's trying to unlock Dr Freeman's door. It seems to be locked but Morgan's kind of in the background watching and with her powers she unlocks the door for us. When she gets in she finds the book, takes a pile of pictures, then somebody comes in and she sneaks in quickly into the desk. This last image that she had seen was Morgan Moguls pressing a baby girl that looked remarkably familiar to the painting hanging from Dr Freeman's office wall and that, folks, is a long winded explanation for what happened.

Speaker 5:

That was great. That helped me clear up a few things and I have questions. Absolutely I don't want to just jump the gun and jump in line. Does anyone else have questions, or should I just kick it off?

Speaker 6:

Kick it off, baby.

Speaker 5:

Okay. So last time I asked, I was like, is Leland really dead? And you're like, yeah, she's dead, bro. And I'm like now like damn it, you told me the truth and that was true, but I didn't clarify does she resurrect? Or, like I was so stoked that she's back. Right, I knew that I was excited to find out more about her and she was another one of my favorites so far, so I was really stoked, bro. Is this? Is she really resurrected, or is this dream shit?

Speaker 2:

No, she was being manipulated to look like it was the lizard. Did you not read the part where the lizard person with the raincoat was there and pretending to be her?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, but is she somewhere resurrected?

Speaker 2:

She's dead. She's full undead.

Speaker 6:

Okay so that chapter with Zeke. Right at the end, before Charity wakes up, he looks over and sees a body on the floor with the head missing, which is her Leland's been dead.

Speaker 5:

It's official, it was fake. It was damn it, bro. She's not really like somewhere else and that was a trick, but she really is resurrected somewhere.

Speaker 6:

She's dead. She was playing on Zeke's mind and it was how they were able to get him to go downstairs.

Speaker 5:

Okay, okay, clarified. Now, towards the end, I need you to kind of clarify the double agent stuff. Can you walk through just that whole setup and the last few chapters where I need to reread them or something, because I just help with clarification from you. Who's watching who again? And because someone's getting the documents, is that really her? Now I'm confused if people are real or so yeah, I'm confused a little bit.

Speaker 6:

Okay. So yeah, maria is in the office looking for at the documents. This was supposed to be Sophia to do it, but because Sophia was sent to, I guess, the county jail, she was detained anyways, maria volunteered to look into it. And the reason Maria is volunteering is because she wants to learn more, because she thinks that Morgan has something to do with all this and by Morgan's chapter it seems like she might be onto something. So that's why Maria wanted to go in there. So when I say the whole double agent is like, yeah, she's working for that, but she's also trying to infiltrate what's going on with Morgan as well, because she clearly knows that Morgan has something up her sleeve. Now there's this thing that was mentioned and I don't know if everyone picked up on it, but Morgan wondered why her mother would tell Maria what was going on. I don't know, I feel like Sparky might have picked up on that, but there's something about that. Especially if you've kind of read the chapters, it seems a little bit odd that Maria was up with Dr Michaels.

Speaker 6:

He's an asshole, sir. But yeah, I'll leave it at that, just out of curiosity is the sound of that coming through too little or?

Speaker 5:

It was real quiet.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what's going on with this stuff. I can't figure it out.

Speaker 5:

Sorry, I'm just trying to mess with it. No, that's okay. Your voice comes through nice and loud. Yeah, I don't get it. So, okay, second stupid question of the night. But this is why I'm really digging your writing, zeke. I was still holding on to that, like okay, maybe we're getting tricked, but they really are alive somehow, and maybe the resurrection stuff is really true, but Zeke's dead too. Huh, zeke really got skinned alive. You did him like that. Huh, that is crazy, bro. I did him dirty.

Speaker 2:

Did I not say that last week it was going to happen?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, you did. We didn't say you were going to skin him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I said he was going to die. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:

Oh man, that was gnarly and really I'm getting like flashbacks to some pretty gritty shows I've watched and I think that's impressive, bro. I will even go as far to say that you know the pornographic moment it was a little much, but it was a dream, and when you're that age, like it's super intense. It's super intense right, like you're figuring out shit, your body's doing things. I mean that's I don't know like you kind of got sucked into like a teenager's wet dream, bro, and that sounds nasty and it was, but like, yeah, you really are doing a great job of making it pretty gritty. I mean, if I'm, if I'm being honest, I like gritty. I watch a lot of like R rated stuff and that's where like a lot of great character development development comes from from people doing terrible things or whatever things. And the redemption and the good guy stuff is like even better. So I don't know, I really think you, you do a pretty great job with the gritty stuff. I don't mind it.

Speaker 5:

Who? Okay, so you guys all kind of joked about the, the wet dream. Who thought it was too much? Can we ask that, edward? Yeah, go ahead. Who thought it was too much?

Speaker 2:

I felt there was a little out of place for the entirety of the book. I don't know, I just felt like we went from like we had that small little scene with with Morgan earlier on where she was trying to get with him, and then we have the whole issue where he's turned off by the whole idea of her coming on to him when she should be mourning her friend. And then all of a sudden Sophia is coming on to him and he's okay with it and then he's dreaming about her and it's like full blown, like I'm reading 50 shades of gray, and then there's like somebody getting stabbed in the chest at the end of it, like it was. Just it felt a little out of place in my opinion.

Speaker 5:

Good take, good take. What do you think?

Speaker 3:

From what I read and what I was reading during karate class. There's two different things. I was like I got to remember this is probably a dream, because we just changed complete timelines like he's married and everything, and I was like, oh, she's wearing a red robe or red type thing. I was like that's like the cult type thing. Now these are real to me. No, it made me feel really uncomfortable and really awkward, given where I was. That one was fine Children it was the perfect place to read it.

Speaker 5:

I know but that's hilarious. I love that you're reading it in public. Can you imagine if you were, if someone was peeking over your shoulder and they're just like what.

Speaker 3:

I know they were like yeah, I'm not gonna say anything this guy has read the smut in karate class.

Speaker 2:

What is?

Speaker 3:

wrong with?

Speaker 3:

him right, yeah, and there's this other guy that's in there too. He's got a shoulder and he's got like what's the fancy mustaches? They call him handlebar mustaches. I curled up and he's got like frilly white hair. It's almost like Einstein. In the back he's got a handlebar mustache and like a straight down goatee or straight down like a like I don't know like wherever the bottom off the chin is. And then he's got like really, really specific. They may be like coach glasses that are like round and everything. Like he looked straight up like a professor. You know what I mean. Like so he's over there reading his book, and then I'm like I was like man, I got you know, I maybe he would want to read it and like join our book club and stuff. And then I was like you know, then I started reading that and I was like no.

Speaker 3:

Well, now I don't feel comfortable in. I don't think Colonel Sanders professor over here could have to see him in a tangle beneath the buckled. But yeah, yeah, I think that I'm hoping that maybe something I said was right about last time, where maybe there's a Someone else thinking that they're a God too or something, and it's going to be like a battle between two different types of gods and we don't.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the fall stuff that's setting it up a little bit yeah so maybe it may be the other one, you know, maybe her mama is one, maybe maybe there's two mothers that are involved.

Speaker 2:

Well, there's mother, mother, and then there's Margaret's mother.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, yeah, it's going to be some. Yeah, I'm not going to say and we're going to have some, some mom on mom action.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and we're getting a little too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's a lot of fun with this anyways, but yeah, I like it so far. I just wish that I had a little more time this time, but I'll get caught back up. It's easier this time for me to come back up.

Speaker 5:

Maybe, maybe Edward needs to give us a heads up for chapters that are not safe for karate class.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, not safe for karate class. Yeah, that was really weird. There's like 100 people around me and then and then and then there's kids that are five and under, like.

Speaker 6:

The guy next to you read like 50 shades of grainy. Looks over. What the fuck are you reading?

Speaker 3:

Well, it's what you're reading is set. Instead of being a red room, there's red robes.

Speaker 2:

And people die.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and there's more.

Speaker 8:

It would be more disturbed by the porno scene or by the boy being skinned alive a few pages later.

Speaker 5:

Right right.

Speaker 2:

Or the pedophile getting exploded and then the guy getting exploded next to him and then skull hitting the other dude said Right, yeah, that's what I'm talking about, bro.

Speaker 5:

This is some gritty stuff, man. I'm curious to hear your level of acceptance with these past few chapters, because I would have to say that these past few chapters definitely stepped it up a notch with smaction.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, I'm a little blind too, so I'm reading as you guys are talking, but yeah, there's something wrong with Edward, like, have you seen help for this? No, it's. Yeah, it definitely stepped up these last few chapters but, like I said, not what I would typically read, but still mostly enjoying it.

Speaker 2:

so Oops, my bad, I meant to hit unmute myself. Were we supposed to be going to 308, because I'm only at like 297.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I went to 308, so maybe that was a good little recap when I asked Edward to kind of explain the ending. Now, edward, I had a question. Towards the end, hold on, hold on, hold on. Didn't maybe the second chapter, third chapter, from the end they're wanting to kill Maria, right? Can you explain? Can you explain that part? Maybe again, and maybe I'm making stuff up again, but Maybe I need to find the part. Maybe it's a little bit further back than I thought. Dang it, okay. So I had another question, though, and while I find this, oh Dap, go ahead.

Speaker 3:

I did have another theory, but now that you guys have talked about Leland being actually dead but it still could be plausible, but I think perhaps, maybe like the, the townspeople or whatever that are part of the cult, was wondering. Possibly maybe they're like people that have actually died and have been brought back by mother, because you know they talk about how, like when Caleb sister died, the guy was like we can bring her back and we can duplicate people. Right, so what if they're all actual clones of people? But then you know there's like some sort of like mishaps or something to, and then it's like mothers, like finally, like starting perfected, like you know, or something. So obviously, like there's a fish type person, so that might have been like oh, you're my right hand person, and then you know you're the legs out of the water to serve me sort of thing and or something I don't know, maybe something like that.

Speaker 5:

Okay, so the orb lands it had, I mean, mother is essentially not a who, it's a, it's a. What right? Is that a good way to put it? Yeah, something like that. Okay, and the power within the orb and mother creates life. Essentially, little creatures were created. Here's my question Is there a species or is it all chaotic? It seems like there's so many different types of creatures that are coming from mother and the powers at hand and I'm curious about is there any order to it?

Speaker 6:

I think I want to explain more through the book. But the funny thing about the orb is that it kind of precedes time in a way that everyone that's like we see Zeke touching it and he sees everything, and the orb is kind of like, I guess, like have time is explained and stuff. It's almost like it can see the beginning and the end of time, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

He sees all time simultaneously, all at once. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

So, you know, he starts to bleed from all like orifices because of like from his head, as the information was so overwhelming, and then he realized what his part was to play in this. So the orb is very powerful and it came with mother. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3:

With, so that means they're separate.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, and Anna, as I'm recalling a part where she's like a lot goes on here. What did we? What new things did we learn about her? Have we learned if she's good or bad, leaning Like where are we at with her? I don't know how to feel about Anna.

Speaker 2:

I feel like she's good, in my opinion, I feel like she's okay. So let's, let's, let's go back to the conversation of what kind of creatures and stuff does the monster beneath our feet create? And there's the premise that that that creature couldn't bring you back to life but also make you immortal. It clearly didn't do it with Zeke or Leyland, but there's a possibility that Morgan's mom, dr Michaels, is a child of sorts of this mother, because she made her immortal somehow, because we now see there's another child, this grotesque abomination in a jar. So there's the potential that Morgan is also a child of this being in a roundabout way, because it's, you know, dr Michaels child, and Dr Michaels is the child of this in a way. And I'm saying child in a sense like maybe she like recreated her, whatever gave her the immortality.

Speaker 2:

But I feel like her purpose is to try and stop this entity from coming back to fruition or life or whatever you want to call it, because she's at least the way that it's written. She seems as if she's there to try and stop things as opposed to make them worse. I don't feel like she'd be hiding behind a Luna mask. If she was Luna, I feel like her personality is that she's very out front and tells things pretty much like it is and she's not the type to obviously this is a character in a book and who fucking knows what what they actually are but she doesn't seem like the type to be like hiding behind a mask and pretending to be something else, feel like she'd be out front and who she actually is. And I think Luna I mean we kind of discussed it last week but I think I think Luna is Claire. She's always been Claire.

Speaker 2:

I think Claire doesn't know she's Luna and I think that's kind of why the whole scene with them showing this stuff to Claire and having her kind of see the footage altered and all the stuff that took place with Sophia quote, taking Zeke out and whatever I think all of that was to see what her reaction was, the situation because they're trying to engage where her allegiance is like, because, again, I still don't feel like Dr Michaels trusts Claire, because she senses something inside of her and, as I said last week, I feel like somebody is controlling Claire, much like they were controlling Zeke with the image of Laylin in his head.

Speaker 2:

They were obviously forcing thoughts into his mind to project an image of something that wasn't actually there. Now, it wasn't a full creation of an image, because they still had to have the lizard person as a stand-in, to have a physical body for him to interact with, which, if you think about, it's kind of gross that he was making out with a fucking lizard person who talks with their mouth garbled underwater or whatever. But so clearly there's somebody else pulling the strings. It's not Claire, it's somebody else, and at this point it could be Morgan, or it's not Morgan, could be somebody more powerful that we haven't been introduced yet, I don't know. But that's my take on Dr Michaels. I think she's trying to be the stopper of the coming doom from this entity that is destroying our world.

Speaker 5:

Basically, and good reading comprehension from the Sparky Question for you, sparky, with comprehension of stories and tales and characters and the details, are you pretty similar with shows, television movies?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I tend to pick them apart pretty quickly and figure things out. There was one the other day and I try real hard with stuff like this not to read ahead and find the answers, because we're doing the book club and I don't want to ruin it in that sense. So I'm giving it my best to try and keep my guesses to being guesses and I'm not reading ahead in that sense. But I was watching a movie the other day and I forget what movie it was, but they introduce a character like right in the beginning of the movie and I'm like that motherfuckers get up a chair. And so I'm watching the movie and I'm like I already know how this movie ends. So I went on Wikipedia and read the entire synopsis of the movie and I'm like that's exactly how I fucking predicted it. So I ended up watching the movie anyways.

Speaker 2:

It was a Netflix movie called Kate where Mary Winested or whatever her name is, mary Elizabeth Winested she's like an assassin that gets poisoned in like the first 10 minutes of the movie and she's going to figure out who poisoned her and she's trying to kill this person. I mean the first 10 minutes of the movie. You're watching all the stuff unfold and you're like they already know who the fuck poisoned her. It's pretty plain and simple and it just happens to me all the time where it's pretty easy.

Speaker 2:

There's some stuff that it's hard to predict, but for the most part you can see stuff coming like all the time, some things like they still surprise you. But you're watching a horror movie and it's like, oh, this was so and so all the time and you're like, yeah, we kind of knew that it was pretty much like written in the fucking script. So I don't know why I have this ability and I don't have it all the time. Like I have it for a lot of stuff, but there's certain things that, like I said, I still I don't have it work properly in that sense. But there's a lot of predictability up there with storytelling, I find.

Speaker 5:

That's awesome. I've definitely felt proud a few times, but man, I get tricked. I definitely like, for example, the sixth sense. Now, I was like in middle school when I watched that, but at the end of the movie I was like no, oh what, it was there the whole time and all my buddies, we were all just like, yes, yes, that was awesome, you know, and we were totally tricked. There's other times I've really felt proud of myself, but I definitely think Sparky takes comprehension to another level.

Speaker 9:

And how about you.

Speaker 6:

I have to ask, sparky, when you've seen the first Saw movie, did you know the guy on the floor was dead? Was the killer?

Speaker 2:

Did you know that? I was younger when I watched that, because that came out a while ago. It's been more my adult years that I've been better at seeing the stuff. So it's the same. With like sixth sense, at the time I wasn't able to pick that stuff apart. So even with like Saw 1, I think that was like 2000-ish 2004 actually when it came out, yeah, I was like 15 or whatever.

Speaker 6:

Like the first two movies fooled me, but then after that I knew the killer every damn time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you get to a point where it's the same shit over and over and you're just like, yeah, it's predictable. But, like, even in recent years being older, there's some movies that like Arrival. I don't know if anybody's seen the movie Arrival, but it's an Alien movie with Jeremy Renner and it's probably one of my favorite Alien movies because it doesn't depict the aliens as harmful in any way. And I mean it came out in 2016, so it's not like it's that old of a movie, but the whole movie. There's flashes throughout the movie of the main character and the main characters, amy Adams and Jeremy Renner, are the two main and so you have images of them together. You have images of Amy Adams with a child and going through all these things. It keeps flashing through these memories and you're not quite understanding, like, what the flashes mean. And then it gets to the end of the movie and you finally realize what's been going on the whole time. And I'm going to ruin the movie for everybody, but it's still a good movie to watch.

Speaker 2:

But it's kind of like what Edward was saying about the time thing where he touched the orb and he perceives time simultaneously start like all time in his life all at once, and so the basic of this is the Amy Adams is like a linguist who's trying to figure out this alien language. The aliens are giving them their language. They basically just gave them a bunch of glyphs. That is the alien language, and they don't like the humans, don't really realize what the alien language represents, until Amy Adams figures it out and it turns out that the alien language allows humans to perceive time like the aliens do, which is everything all at once. And so throughout the movie, all these flashes that we're seeing, is Amy Adams like going to her future and experiencing stuff in her future that she hasn't experienced it, and then coming back to the present. So she's having memories about the future and then coming back to the present and you're not understanding this. You're thinking they're flashbacks, but they're actually stuff that's taking place far away from now. And it's a very interesting concept because the way that she gets all the humans to work together is by remembering something from the future and calling someone in the past like her in the present and telling him something about his wife, and it solidifies the humans to work together because there's certain countries, because these, you know, aliens are all over the planet.

Speaker 2:

My whole point was I didn't fucking, I wasn't expecting any of this. It was completely non expecting for me. So to watch this movie and I'm like at the end of it I was like holy shit, that was all the future. I thought it was like they look like flashbacks or whatever. So it was it caught me by surprise, but it's probably one of the better movies that I've seen in recent times. So then there's like other movies, like the one I watched the other night, where I was like, yeah, I know exactly what's happening.

Speaker 5:

I like, I like to hear that Sparky gets, gets not tricked, but get you know he gets to enjoy the, the reveal, like, like us as well. Mike man, what's up?

Speaker 8:

Hey, it's just letting you know that I'm starting basketball season now, so I'm coaching, which means I have to get up early so I can leave work early to get the practice. So I'm only going to be on for like the first 45 minutes or an hour each space for the foreseeable future, till spring probably. So I'm going to jump off now, but I just wanted to let you know before Sparky goes down another tangent and tells us another movie spoiler and runs that too.

Speaker 6:

So you mean you don't want to say that you see all the movies ruined?

Speaker 5:

I love that. I love the little. I love the little back and forth between might man and Sparky it's. If you hang around enough, you get a little back and forth between them. I love it. It might man. That's awesome bro. You know I'm a kid coach and I just that's the best bro. Oh, you got to. You got to keep us posted on how the sun is doing. He sounds like a beast, so I'm I'm excited to keep up the updates. So thank you for the update and I'll keep you on the wheel for the giveaways and announce if you win that still. So thanks for letting us know, my friend.

Speaker 8:

Yeah just just let me know what we decide on, how far we're reading. I'm guessing it's around 50 pages, but if we go further or something, Meet me, man, not to ruin another film for now, just kidding.

Speaker 2:

But if you want to, if you want to move you. That has had me guessing throughout it and you know I could predict some of it, but not the entirety of it. Go watch a movie called predestination with a crap what's name, not going to Google it.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, no, I'm with you, though I don't think I'm as bad as you are with stuff. But I tend to figure them out early too, and I think it's just because you know all the tropes have been done, like there's only so many ways that you can trick the audience, and I kind of feel it. I kind of agree with you with Dr Michaels. I think Edward's trying to present her so that we think she's a bad character because she just rubs us the wrong way. But those characters tend to turn around and be the good guys.

Speaker 2:

So predestinations with.

Speaker 6:

Eason.

Speaker 2:

Hawk. It's a good movie. It's one that had kept me guessing, so I'm not going to ruin that one and I mean I could ruin it because it's been out since 2014. Anything that's like seven years old, like a rival, was 2016. If I ruin it, fuck you. You had seven years to watch it.

Speaker 5:

Very true, just like some obscure, like foreign film that few have access to. Awesome thanks, mike man. I appreciate you fam.

Speaker 8:

I'll catch you guys next time.

Speaker 5:

So, dave, we've kept Dave quiet. I know you're catching up on the reading, but what are your thoughts tonight? My friend, how are you great, to great to see you virtually.

Speaker 7:

Heck, yes, you know, thanks, lane, and yeah, I just have missed all your voices, all these personalities that are colorful I've been, I missed all of. Last week is insanely busy week so much coaching, basketball too. For my son, austin, in addition to work and church, I started a new, a new church calling is what we call them that this executive secretary. It feels like another job because I'm I'm learning, kind of like drinking from a fire hose, all this new info, which is cool to see how my church works better. But anyway, we're all busy but I have not read so much I've read. I keep trying to read at night and that's my problem, you know, because you know I read with what? Do you call it reclined? Yeah, I read reclined and I think I'm gonna stay awake each time. Haha, my, like a doll that you put on his back in the dolls eyes, real backwards in its head, that's me here, doll comfy chair like dad's old chair, oh yeah good luck.

Speaker 5:

It's game over bro yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 7:

I mean, nothing's more comfy than my bed, and sometimes I do my best work reclined on my bed, but not when it's 11 ish at night. I can't not fall asleep. So I keep trying to chip away at the book. It's really intriguing, but doesn't matter how interesting it is when you're reclined and you're comfy, game over lights out. So anyway, I haven't read very far and even though you guys are discussing it, I, my my brain will forget it. Don't worry, it'll still be exciting, just like the last book. When I caught up at the end it was still exciting and it your guys is talking about it didn't spoil it for me. So, like I love that. Yeah, a whole bunch of reading to do from a guy.

Speaker 5:

Just so you guys know, dave and I would watch Batman, batman Returns. I mean, we had what about Bob. There were a few clashes water world water world. Oh, we had on repeat bro. Yeah, we do not mind repeat content and you and I?

Speaker 7:

what about Bob? Yeah?

Speaker 7:

so that's that's fun when we turn what about Bob on and I'm like, hey, melissa, to our sister, remember, I'm like you're gonna finish the movie. This time she falls asleep after the fish. The goldfish opening credits of what about Bob in the beginning puts her to sleep every single time. So I don't even know if Melissa's finished what about Bob ever. But you're right, like we have these certain movies on repeat.

Speaker 7:

One of them that I watched a lot was multiplicity and I felt like I feel like right now and I bring that up because in my life I feel like doing what he did in multiplicity making a few clones of myself one to do my job and one to do, you know, to go golfing for fun on the side, and then another one to catch upon this book. Like I know everyone's busy, but it's like drinks for a fire hose right now and I and I want to clone myself to catch up because I want to be where you guys are. But anyway, I digress and I just want to emphasize again that I enjoy hearing your colorful voices Daphnations, sparkies, lanes, edwards, mightman, everyone. Ryan Demrease, like he's not speaking tonight Conquest easy is needed tonight, but I like when everyone gets on and talks because you all have like these fun ways that you describe things and that adds a little extra color to the book that reading the book alone doesn't plus.

Speaker 7:

It was fun hearing Edward give the recap this time. That was cool because that was the first time that I've heard the author give a recap. I don't think Xander ever did before. Right, he didn't did he?

Speaker 5:

Hey, that might be my bad, that was phenomenal. Yeah, I'm always opening stuff up like a dummy trying to give my recap. Yeah, you're right. No, no, that was phenomenal.

Speaker 7:

I just couldn't remember like and I missed last week. But kind of fun, you know, to have Edward give the recap that was a good idea. Good call Lane to have him. I can't wait for that one. Go ahead, lane, you think of it? No, that's kind of fun.

Speaker 5:

I cannot take credit. That was all Edwards freestyle. That was perfect.

Speaker 6:

That was like Lane.

Speaker 5:

I'll fuck this.

Speaker 7:

But you, freestyle, rolled with it with Edwards idea, you rolled with it Lane, and that was great. It was fantastic.

Speaker 6:

Love it. I thought it would be kind of fun to do it actually, just because everyone always recaps. So I was like you know what I'm going to do it today.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that was good, and I like how you had put in little lines like oh, and it looks like so and so seems to be dot dot dot, like you're just one of us. That was great. Oh man, dave, congrats on the new calling that my friend I know executive secretary man, that's a full time job. You are going to probably get like a double MBA from that. Though, and do not go stealing the finances, dave, I don't want to visit you in prison.

Speaker 6:

So, dave, is it kind of like being an assistant to the regional manager?

Speaker 7:

Yes, yes, that's it.

Speaker 6:

That's what.

Speaker 9:

I feel like.

Speaker 1:

No one's busier than Dwight.

Speaker 7:

No one's busier than Dwight Shrut scheming as assistant to the regional manager. I am him right now.

Speaker 5:

I love that. I was like proud that I caught that reference and of course, Dave, you catch all the good references. That was money, that was fire, Good little back and forth there. It sure means a lot to me, Dave, that you like hanging out with us. I love that. You've always been just. I don't ever want to get like two sentimental up here or like come across insincere, but Dave really is just a heart of gold. The guy is just a phenomenal big bro and never once you hear like these stories of growing up with big brothers and they leave you out and they pick on you and they I don't know what it was, but I have not ever experienced that once Dave was the big bro that would like let me beat him at wrestling and let me win at basketball and, like you know, give me confidence. So yeah, Dave, you're awesome.

Speaker 7:

Thanks for being here, dude. I appreciate it. You're awesome. You're awesome. Thanks for your kind words, but I wanted to interject with I'd never let you beat me at wrestling. You were a beast Like I didn't let that happen. No, that's you like, remember we broke moms, we broke moms, uh covered.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we've caused it the worst, though I was about to say that's humble, dave, because we know that Jeff, who is the state champion wrestler of the family, the only person that could beat him is you. So I don't want to hear any of this humble stuff, dave. Might he might seem like a nice guy, and he is, but you get on the mat or on the court with him and he'll get you apart. So, yeah, no, we're not letting that slide tonight, dave.

Speaker 7:

Well said, lane. Well, you're a beast and on the court too you're a beast man. You'd scoop by, you'd juke me out and I'm like you and Melissa had the ability to draw a foul from me and I'd be like dang it. Man, these two talented siblings of mine, my sister and my younger brother, they draw my foul again. You guys were. You guys have that natural ability and I'm like dang it. Why can't, why can't I be uh juke and draw the fouls? Instead I do an offensive foul. Anyway, I digress, but like, thanks for your kind words. You know they mean a lot to me, lane, because I admired you man Like you. He had all this talent and I'm like I get to be around my brother and soak up his talent in sports and your freaking charisma where you charm everyone around you. I mean, I mean it Like you're so good at that. Seriously, brother. There's a lot of sappy brother words going along here, guys, and I love it, but I'll I'll not add too much more sappy brother stuff. I'll, I'll cut it off there for myself.

Speaker 5:

Hey, I think I think they're used to it and I I don't see it. You were both busy and so it's a nice chance to catch up. Uh, ryan, great to have you come up on stage. I know you've been busy the past week with some, with some stuff. How's everything going for you, my friend?

Speaker 9:

Hey, thank you. Uh, just hanging in there, man, Just dealing with some family health things going on but just focusing a lot of time with that and trying to manage the children at the same time.

Speaker 9:

But it's been a kind of cool with being a little bit absent, I would say, um, uh, the little bit that I do get to protect, I I scored um. Yesterday I got gifted with PFP by Gary V and I'm just that made my night. I just totally brought the spirit up. It was exactly like, uh, kind of like a goal of mine was to have that interaction with him. I got him to follow me and I've had him now like and retweet my stuff. And then now he just gifted me an FTE.

Speaker 9:

I was just like, oh, that just conquered and made this year everything that I've ever tried to set out to do and it happened.

Speaker 9:

So it's just amazing and I sit in here listening to you guys talk about the, uh, the book and everything, which is really neat because, um, I kind of skipped forward a little bit just to try to catch up and I completely threw myself through at the left field, like, and then I got into the foul foul and then a foul.

Speaker 9:

I was like I could should not have done that because it intense. That's why I had it to work like a little more, like, um, I don't know, I was just like, I felt like I was already ahead of it a little bit, but then I started getting into portions and I was just I can't really understand some of this Now I'm really confused. So I took back to where I did left, left off, and then I ended up leaving the book at the hospital room. So I finally got that back this evening and I was, uh, I'm going to go in, take you know, sit down after this space and catch up a bit and get my. I got a little quarter that I've been setting out for myself, so it's been nice and it was really cool to hear Edwards take in that little intro.

Speaker 9:

I was, honestly, I felt like I was, you know, listening to the narrative of the book a little bit and it was kind of I like it. It was enjoyable and then, um, it was interesting. Yesterday I jumped into one space um had an interaction with another author that's in the space, so it's pretty cool.

Speaker 9:

Yeah, yeah, tell more, tell more. I was sure the book that he he has um written, but it was pretty cool because, uh, he actually back in May I think it was May, no, april, excuse me, april he DM'd me because I was posting on a bunch of author things and saying, looking for authors, hey, love to have an author join us, right. And he DM'd me and I completely you know the message has got lost that Christian QVS is his name. Um, the book is cashmere, heretic. Money is freedom.

Speaker 5:

So, uh, also we're. We're talking about Working a like, a financial help.

Speaker 9:

So yeah, just that was going to be our next catapult.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy.

Speaker 9:

And success is. And then his other book is a foul belief, uh, that I can't see this, the true secrets, um, but he's uh, 27. I think I remember, if I remember that correctly, he's 27 or 37, um, pretty, pretty well spoken individual um, like Edward, um for what I didn't you know. Look over his book. I was really shocked because it just all of these things happened all in one day and it was like we're like talking about self-help folks and and we're talking about new authors in the space and he's in the space. So it was just it was fitting, um, so I was just excited. I was actually kind of glad to share that, because typing that text and that and said discord would be like a fucking story of lifetime more than the daily check. I'm like, okay, sorry, that was just too much for me. That was a shout out to Sparky, I hope you got that. But anyways, back to the back to the conversation here. So I'll leave it at that. And yeah, that was. That was pretty exciting.

Speaker 5:

That's awesome, Just planting some seeds and, uh, yeah, putting in some work and it comes back. Maybe not always the right time. That's like a motivational moment, bro. That's inspirational. I love that. Thank you for sharing that with us. And I was really, really, uh stoked on your Gary V interaction and I think it's kind of cool that he was bummed out. He wanted to just get out of that.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 5:

Now mood. I watched that video and he was just like the only thing I can think of that will really help me sleep. Or he said he couldn't sleep and he just needed to do something nice and he wanted to give out some NFTs and that it, it like, helped you feel better and have greater joy in the moment. And now that's so cool. I really that's a cool story and, uh, congrats on the on the interaction, bro. That's awesome Good work.

Speaker 9:

I'm stoked because I've been kind of tapping into the whole, you know, for a while.

Speaker 9:

I've always had that everybody's got the opinion and whatnot, but I, I, I just adore the whole little characters they have and the way that they got this game with the cards and stuff, because I've been going on thematics live and watching them do their little live stream where they open the packs and you actually can like purchase packs and then you know they'll ship them to your house.

Speaker 9:

So I've actually bought a couple packs so I'll, you know, hold a couple Gary V little what do you call those Gary V friend cards? You know, for the card game and the kids. You know my boys, they just love it, like they, they think it's so cool because the Pokemon stuff, right. And then we got a little uh, what are we can't really name the character but some kind of a hat that there's like some hats mold, and got one of those and it's like it's smooth to have that come together and then have the NFT that I honestly never would imagine of owning or being able to get to the point of, yeah, I mean, it's been that much on NFT again. So I was, I'm stoked.

Speaker 5:

That's awesome. We'll keep us keep us posted on the author stuff and scary scary V right, does he have a book?

Speaker 9:

Actually, he does have a book, hey okay.

Speaker 9:

Different book that, like some, I don't even actually know what it's about, but he does have a book. I'm posting the links to the book that he shared Christian shared. So I was going to I was actually going to message him from the PAN account they had this with Ryan and Lane and introduce you through the message. But we'll figure all that out and whatnot. We'll try to get him on a space. So he's also said that he does late night space is like oh well, perfect, we do a clock, whatever you know. So it's like you know it'd be cool, just check us out, come in and hang out If you got time. I did deal with him about it to make it as anything of his who. So yeah.

Speaker 5:

I love it. Thanks for the update, good sir. Well, edward, I am curious what your thoughts are on the page links. As well as everyone else, I've been super pleased with the amount of pages. Are we going to stick to like a 40 page, 45 page-ish range this next before Wednesday? What do you think?

Speaker 6:

Well, I mean, I find I can read this stuff like I can read 80 pages in like two hours. Honestly, if you have the time to just sit down, you can bang that out pretty quick. It really depends. I mean, everyone's reading speeds are a lot different. I'm sure people can read fast for me, people read slower, so I don't know, if you guys want to do 50 more pages, if you want to try and do a bit more.

Speaker 6:

I mean it would be nice to get this book finished before Christmas, Maybe read something a little bit more late-hearted afterwards. What do you think?

Speaker 5:

Okay, so if we bump it up just a little above 50, we've got the 366 mark, or we bump it to like 358. 50 pages or a little bit more than 50 pages.

Speaker 6:

Okay, so we're at 308, right? Yes, sir, let me just let my sway here. Let me sway. Why don't we go to page 366? I know that's a little bit more.

Speaker 5:

No, that was my initial mark. I thought it was good. I think I agree. Anyone have any issues with that? I hear no nays, no naysays.

Speaker 6:

We might be okay. I've got them on. You know what hold on one second. I'm trying to figure out because I think if we bump it maybe a little tight a bit more. Let me just see If we did 366 now, do you think we could finish part two by Monday at 441? Easy, Easy. You think we guys got that, Because I think that'd be really cool, by Monday to be able to finish part two.

Speaker 5:

That's perfect. Okay, let's do that, because that's about an 80 page range, like what we did this last time, right?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, so if we do 366 now, then we do the 80 page range. Then we should have part two done. Does anyone have any thoughts of what's going on now that we're halfway through the book? Are people starting to figure stuff out? Are people still completely lost?

Speaker 5:

Bro, I'll be honest, I'm still collecting data. I am just blown away by some of your reading comprehension and ability to think outside of the story into the future. It's like my style of viewing art I just consume it and think about details in a form of video. So I really get caught up, I think, in the visuals and your storytelling and it kind of pisses me off that I'm not. I don't know. I always used to think my reading comprehension in this category of like oh, I bet I know what's going on. I am constantly realizing I suck at it. So I'll be 100% honest, like I could go off some theories that I've heard so far. But no, bro, you're really keeping me on the edge of my seat, so to speak.

Speaker 6:

But it is like people following the story to the, because the biggest thing with me too is.

Speaker 6:

I want to make sure that the story is not coming out too confusing, that there's like there's obviously some hints of what's to come. I do like to use foreshadowing and stuff like that, and you can probably see that I don't know if you guys realize that, but the foreshadowing of Zeke's death was kind of played in his chapter when he looked up at the cross and the exact same thing was going to happen to him. So like I do like the idea of foreshadowing and kind of adding some elements, that, because I don't think I really was right, I kind of caught that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I've guessed a lot in the first book in this one.

Speaker 6:

You're stillers Berk. Yeah, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it. I always guess, I always get the.

Speaker 2:

Well, you have a lot of things that make it somewhat predictable, like you said, with the foreshadowing, and you you're just admitted to it, so it makes it kind of somewhat easy to guess things that are going to happen. So, like I said on Wednesday last week that you know Zeke's going to die, I said you set it up in a way that he's pretty much set up to be this lovable character that you're going to kill off. So I don't know it's. It is easy to see some of this stuff. So it's, it's, but it's good foreshadowing too. It's clearly some people aren't picking up on it.

Speaker 5:

Well, I think that's where it's like. First of all, to answer Edward, it's not confusing, not in that sense, but like, yeah, foreshadowing, for example, it's like dummy lane, pick up on some of this. But if I'm watching a film, I think I, I think I go to this discussion in my head like the visuals are there. I don't think in terms of like, I just love being behind a camera, I love how lenses work, I love how they do the lighting I love and all of that's there for me and I get to just take that in and think about my theories. Versus reading, I've always had just like my mind goes crazy with the visuals. So any foreshadowing that's happening, I'm probably sitting there like visualizing the, the scene and how it might be lit, and like picturing it in my head and that's like where my brain goes is the, I don't know I, I, I don't think it's on purpose.

Speaker 5:

I think I truly get caught up with visualizing it and loving it and, and you know, getting caught up in the story. So, yeah, I'm, I'm the guy. That's just like you didn't pick up on that. It's like shit. Maybe if it was on film I would have gone to the next step, but I just really get caught up on. And then I'm also like the this, the story guy that, like I, like Justin, I think about you know his past and I might be like a couple of chapters past Justin's chapter and I'm still thinking about Justin or Lee Lin or Zeke, and I don't. My mind is like doing two things at once and if I add a third and start to think about like theories, I I don't do it. Yeah, so I don't know. Just interesting to analyze my, my reading style. I guess I really visualize it and I get caught up on that.

Speaker 2:

Look at. Look at some of the stuff that he's shown in the book already, with just different flashes of visions that certain characters have had. We look at, even with charity and what she went through in the recent chapters, she's already envisioned the deaths of several people. There is even a point where she envisioned Zeke dead with, you know, his black glasses or whatever, and she envisions Justin going up in a blaze of glory. So the kid's going to burn the place down. Clearly there's going to be something around that. They've even talked about the building going down in rubble. So there's a lot of stuff that if you're not kind of reading between the lines, you're missing quite a bit.

Speaker 5:

So that that specific example I definitely was. I did have the foreshadowing conversation in my head, but I thought it was too direct and I I feel like he might be setting up maybe a possibility of a future change, like a back to the future moment where can we change this from happening and is that what's actually going to happen? So I did. I'll give that one to me. I did heavily pick up on that one, but almost cause it was too direct. You know what I mean. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's going to be some of the stuff that probably does take place, but some of the stuff that he's not going to spell out directly or there's going to be a twist to it to some degree, just because you don't want to set stuff up like that plainly as a writer. But I mean, there have been instances where he, like I mean with Laylin, he told us before she died that she was dead, so you knew that she was going to die, like like there's certain things like that that have happened. So I don't know. I feel like he's setting us up for certain things here and there and again, if you're not paying attention or not reading it, you're just missing out on it entirely.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, Okay, I guess, Edward, I've put my first theory on the table is that we will have a back to the future Biff moment Marty McFly socks him in the face changes the whole direction of his mess up and he rectifies it that he's going to change. Someone change in the future.

Speaker 6:

You got to be nailed it. That's what it is. It's just a big back to the future spin. In fact, Marty McFly is going to be a native with Duck World.

Speaker 5:

The fish guys are going to come. You're going to see them off in the distance, arriving by sea on hoverboard.

Speaker 6:

Marty's going to be like Doc. How do we get to 88 Gignuettes?

Speaker 2:

So here it is. Here she saw Laylin fall to her death as blood erupted from her neck, splashing over the crowd. That said, before the girl, she saw a boy with black rimmed glasses as a heal being sacrificed to demonic looking monster, as his body was put on display for all those to see. I mean, that happened a couple of chapters later she saw a girl stabbed to death and a boy with red hair explode in a fiery ball of flames. So Maria, we've already had the whole thing with her being stabbed to death and her intestines being out on display, that vision. Here we are having Maria being stabbed to death, in my opinion, and then Justin, who has red hair, explode in a fiery ball of flames. So there's so many things that he's kind of foreshadowing.

Speaker 2:

Now what might actually end up happening is not going to be the exact depiction here, but two of the things have already taken place. One she saw a boy die as the world crashed down on him and a red haired girl die as the very same lighthouse crumbled the dust around her. She saw the death of a god and the birth of another. She saw the horrors of man and the downfall of a world. So we have one, god, die, and the other, god, come into life. We have that image of Morgan getting pregnant earlier on and instantly birthing stuff. We had the talk of miraculous virgin births. So these characters who are female, are obviously there's the potential of one of them giving birth to an entity or some sort. So I don't know. He's writing things out for you. If you're not paying attention, you're not paying attention. In my opinion, right.

Speaker 5:

I'm hoping for some change. So I don't know what if they're off? What if the visions are off? You know what I mean? A couple of them are right. Is there any chance that a few of them might be off? And I don't know. I don't know what the ultimate goal with a lot of the entities are still. So I like it. That's just my way of saying like I'm ready to get to the next chapters, because I need it kind of. I need the story to go on. I like it, man, and I do think the last book and this one would make tremendous visual content as well. Really gnarly, our rated stuff. I think it's sweet Speaking of visual Panda.

Speaker 6:

Did you see what Dap did? Dap sent me a picture there today.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, me and him worked on it together. I went ahead and showed it to him of Luna.

Speaker 5:

That was so cool. Oh, you liked Luna, bro, yeah.

Speaker 6:

I mean it's not 100% of what I would have seen. I mean, obviously, but like definitely a good, solid 75% of Nice yeah.

Speaker 3:

It'd be cool if, like instead of the sun shining through, if we had red from like the morning shining through. It'd have been pretty good then, probably.

Speaker 6:

Is there a way to like make the image like, similar, but like change the color? I feel like you could do that, bro.

Speaker 5:

Dap. Do you see what's happening? Our fan art is being appreciated by the author. This is amazing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're inventing it correctly then, and then we're able to create it, and then I'm glad somebody's giving us feedback. Finally.

Speaker 5:

We would love to have any feedback on them.

Speaker 6:

Well, that was the first time I even seen anything. I mean, you guys sent me the butcher, which I thought was cool too.

Speaker 5:

We don't have a final butcher, do we? I think we scrapped that and went on to some other places.

Speaker 6:

You guys moved down pretty quick from the butcher.

Speaker 5:

We kind of jump around because we've got a few chapters of content Dap we got to get to. We only knocked out three this last one hour session.

Speaker 3:

It's hard working on a squid baby in a jar or something.

Speaker 6:

Yes, I need to see it.

Speaker 3:

That'll be a great one.

Speaker 6:

But yeah, okay, I've asked this question before. We're about halfway through the book now. Characters have been developed and are developing. Who has a favorite character? I mean, you could even talk about Reston's piece, leland and Ezekiel, but do you guys still have favorite characters or are there still characters that you're not too sure about? I'd like to hear from David on this, see what his thoughts are. Who's his favorite character? I know he's not as far as we are right now, but, as he's been reading through the story, who's your favorite character?

Speaker 5:

He might be reclined.

Speaker 7:

I'm reclined, but not asleep yet. You're right.

Speaker 6:

Wait to drool off your face. Man, wake up, get the sleepiest thing out.

Speaker 7:

That's right.

Speaker 7:

No, you know I'm not tired right now Because of all your colorful voices. Sorry, I'm getting sappy again, but no, I'm not really tired now. I'm just soaking up through you guys' wisdom and really, so far, what I've read. I've read a fairly good chunk of the book, not nearly as far as you guys, but I really like Charity. You know, on the surface she may seem like a ditzy. She seems like she'd be a ditzy freak, not a freak, it's my turn to say Just a ditzy girl, a valley girl, but she has quite a bit of depth, it seems, and kind of a sad background, of course, but a lot of depth to her, some real character, and I think I keep finding myself rooting for her to be a hero, a heroine to be exact. That she's going to pull off these great feats and maybe I'm way off about that but there's more to meets the eye to her. Basically is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 5:

I like that He'll get some charity revelations in the next few chapters. We didn't really talk about charity, much did we.

Speaker 6:

No, we haven't. I know you've lost one of your favorite characters, Lane, but you've been talking about Justin a lot. What about Justin do you like so much? What's captivating about Justin?

Speaker 5:

He's angry. I think my brother can recall my temper tantrum as a kid.

Speaker 7:

I relate with that Right, dave, I was just going to say, as I would use to say you sing with passion, you have passion and that's why I love you, because you're not what some refer.

Speaker 6:

How does this always?

Speaker 7:

happen.

Speaker 6:

Why does it happen? Every time it's like, hey, what about this character? It's like you know what?

Speaker 1:

Let me go back and talk about my brother for a second.

Speaker 7:

You know, to me in books, in books we find characters that we relate to in real life at least I do. I don't know why, but if I were a girl I'm a boy, last time I checked and if I were a girl I would be like charity Edward, because Lane says he has a temper tantrum. I was always kind of quiet, right, lane. As Billy Joel would say, silence was my self-defense. I just kind of suffered in silence sometimes during those awkward school times, like these kids aged in these books.

Speaker 7:

I would be kind of like the quiet one that would just absorb everything, going on and survive. That way I kind of see charity, that way that she, I hope, becomes a hero by absorbing. What am I trying to say? I keep saying absorbing, but playing her cards right. You know I may be way off about what happens with her, we haven't talked about her but I keep hoping that she plays her cards right and really is a huge asset to this group of kids. That's what I'm pining on, you know, hoping on, and please the stars and destiny, tell me I'm right, tell me there's some hope in that, some shred of hope, silver lining that I'm not way off about that.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's how I feel about Justin. I'm really hoping that he makes some wise moves. He got in a scuffle. I think you're trying to trick us that it's going to get bad between them. I think they work it out. I think Justin tells the serpent to go catch a bus and he gets free of the serpent. I don't know. I'm hoping that the angry guy softens up, finds his heart, listens to that instead of this serpent stuff. I really feel bad for his upbringing as well. So, yeah, I am extremely sad that Zeke got killed, especially the way he did, and so, yeah, I'm trying not to root for anyone that I think is going to get killed off next. I think Justin's going to survive for a while, so I think that's kind of a root of my rooting for him as well.

Speaker 7:

So I'll say Lane.

Speaker 6:

I don't know if we've discussed this or not. Probably have, but yeah. So Justin actually has schizophrenia and he has hallucinary auditory kind of what is that term? I'm actually having a brain failure but yeah, it's like the hearing part of schizophrenia, because normally you don't see and hear. Like if you have schizophrenia you either hear voices or you see things, but you usually don't have the two. So Justin actually hears voices through trauma that he had with his father and the serpent is just the auditory hallucination.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's a rough go and I'm hoping he, I hope someone in the story finds some kind of relief. They're all you know. This is sad stuff on top of sad stuff on top of sad stuff. Like none of these characters really have happy chapters so far and this is just them being tossed from pretty terrible to pretty terrible, to like what, and it's. I'm really trying not to feel too empathetic. I can't help it, but I know that they're going to get killed off, so I don't want to, I don't want to get too attached, but I'm also trying to play, you know, play the game. So I do think Justin will last a while. I think if anyone survives it's Justin. That's my guess. I have no, I have no. Is that why you're taking them?

Speaker 6:

Is this like survivor?

Speaker 5:

Yeah well, it's like hunger games at this point.

Speaker 6:

I'm taking that we should have done that. We should have put bits down. Yeah.

Speaker 5:

See who survived.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 6:

Sorry, justin, you have been voted out to survive. Pack up your bags. It's too funny. But yeah, I'm getting excited for the book. We're halfway through now. I mean that's pretty cool. Maybe not halfway through, we're pretty close to halfway through and it's kind of cool to see you guys depicting the story. I find it interesting that you guys aren't a fan of the sexy. I don't know why. I'm shocked by that, but I. It does play a valuable role in the story and yeah, I'm sparky, not knowing. That was kind of a great light to me to throw them off and think that it was out of pudding.

Speaker 2:

So, while you're making it sound like as if we're going to have a baby happening between him Sophia and Caleb now so I don't know, we're going to have a baby named Kelly. Happen in somewhat the point in this in this book, because you're obviously hinting at it the more you speak about it.

Speaker 6:

So yeah, but what was happening in the dream, though, sparky you're? You guys seem to have missed a lot of that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they were fucking, but it was actually Luna that was fucking them.

Speaker 5:

Oh, I found. I found Sparky's kryptonite is Edward. You just got to write a few more sex chapters and he'll get all discombobulated through those ones, and DAP also, because he'll get karate and they'll. They'll miss the foreshadowing then Nice.

Speaker 2:

Caleb's getting it stabbed through the chest by Luna while she's riding him and getting pregnant.

Speaker 6:

You even said yourselves that the chapter didn't seem like it was necessary.

Speaker 2:

So I said they'll virtually sexual aspects of it, where you're talking about the shaft and all that didn't seem necessary.

Speaker 6:

Kids with dreaming.

Speaker 3:

It was because they were married and older. Like I'm not saying that because they were married, but I was saying because they were in the dream, if they had a job and stuff. It seemed like they were portrayed as older. At least you did that instead of just being like hey, here's people under 18 sex, so you got away.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's true, that's true. Yeah, you did keep it age appropriate for now. Here's. Here's a thought. You know, controversial art can stir up some discussion and sex sells. I don't know, you might, you might find a crowd with that chapter.

Speaker 3:

We'll be able to do anything with that, unfortunately.

Speaker 6:

You know, the thing is Luna's still raped a boy, I don't know. It's still a bit messed up.

Speaker 5:

Yeah that that had some serious handmaid's tale vibes to it. That whole the cult scenes and the non consensual stuff that's going on, that's terrifying. And now I'm trying to think about how the townsfolk are linked with all that craziness as well. And if, who was it that said before? Are they just a product of the mother as well? Is the whole, is the whole town on it?

Speaker 6:

That's what I said, maybe the whole town's probably talked about a town, though this is just a place in the outskirts. There hasn't been any town talked about.

Speaker 5:

Oh, okay, maybe I'm confusing myself, because I'm thinking about the scene with the old people and that wasn't even in the physical vicinity of this location. Then Is that correct?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I mean, that happened somewhere else.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's right. Okay, I'm getting. I'm getting. Yeah, this is the middle of nowhere, type.

Speaker 6:

I was also super young when that happened.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so then we change it to the people in red robes. Then Are possibly products of mother.

Speaker 6:

You never know. Sparky already knows, though, so just let him finish it for us.

Speaker 5:

Well, I'm always going to play the card that you know I'm. I guess I host this and I can't, I can't come out and guess everything. I got to play dumb sometimes. That that's what I'm doing, guys. I'm playing dumb just for you know to play that guy. No, I'm just joking. I definitely get caught up in your tricks, edward. I love it. I'm really enjoying it. What about you, edward? Can you? Can you give us your prediction of the book, as if you were one of us, without giving anything away? Like, give a fake prediction. You want me to give a fake prediction? Yeah, yeah, let's see if you get, if you kind of catch yourself up and reveal something on accident. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 6:

So what happens is that there's this young boy he's probably 18, 19 just got out of school. He really likes this girl. He's you know, he's he really wants to go out with her. He's got his dad's truck. They're racing on the tracks and stuff. He ends up getting into an accident, really ruining his vehicle. So he goes back and he's okay. I was trying to talk about the back of the future, but I love it.

Speaker 5:

That's great, that's perfect.

Speaker 6:

He finds a.

Speaker 5:

DeLorean.

Speaker 6:

He ends up changing that future, do you remember? That when it started off with the race and he ends up it. Does he get pulled over by the cops, or did he hit a vehicle or something like that, I can't remember, but they, he ends up stopping. Do you remember that? Was it the first one or the second one?

Speaker 5:

When he loses the first race and then he comes back and actually and then beats, beats him again.

Speaker 6:

No, he stops, he doesn't even drive, do you remember? Because he's gonna hit another vehicle. Is that what happens?

Speaker 5:

Oh boy, yeah it's fuzzy for me though.

Speaker 6:

Dang it. I just I don't remember the first part, but I always remember the second part, where they're doing the race again, but instead of him racing he just doesn't. And then the other car kind of goes up, but he almost hits another vehicle and apparently they would have gotten into the car accident.

Speaker 5:

That's right, okay, okay, because it kind of shows the maturity growth in Marty. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, like it didn't happen in that order, did he read an article that said they get into a car accident?

Speaker 5:

Oh, you might be right oh boy. My back to the future. Trivia game is not good. Oh boy, yeah, I remember right.

Speaker 6:

Sparky, do you remember? Does he read an article that says he gets into a car accident?

Speaker 3:

I don't remember.

Speaker 6:

I just remember that scene where he's like he stops and then the two vehicles go and the other vehicle comes out and they almost get hit.

Speaker 3:

Let's remember number three kind of sex.

Speaker 6:

Oh man, the train Einstein stayed with him forever, though I always thought that was kind of interesting, I started to wonder if Einstein is like a variant and he's actually paired with the timekeepers. That's a Loki reference. Okay, before we go, though, has anyone seen Loki season?

Speaker 5:

10? Oh, I hear the Loki series is pretty fun though, isn't it oh?

Speaker 6:

it's really fun.

Speaker 5:

You recommend it.

Speaker 6:

Oh, definitely, 100%. Probably one of my favorite end of the series like Marvel series, like TV shows.

Speaker 5:

No, I don't follow it real close, but I did see something on one of my timelines that he is coming to an end with his Loki character officially sometime soon. Is that done? Is he done?

Speaker 6:

From what I've heard, loki won't be another season till possibly phase six, but I'm not 100% sure because the way this ends it kind of feels like finite, like it's over. But I was a little saddened by it because I don't know if anyone's going to watch it. But I really wanted him to have a kind of like a moment with Thor, to kind of rekindle and maybe just realize that, like, what he did was awful, because he kind of has that kind of revelation through the whole of Loki. He's obviously not the God he thought he was. It's a really good show, though, and it was so done. Well, and they actually have who was it? Owen Wilson, which was pretty cool. So he's in like both seasons. And Owen Wilson man, that guy can, he's just so funny. Wow, wow, that was good.

Speaker 4:

That was good.

Speaker 5:

Wow, that sounded like him. Do that again, wow, man. Yeah, that's a good, that's a great Owen Wilson, nice.

Speaker 6:

He's got a poor nose man that is a boxer nose from, yeah, Poor nose. But like he is so good in that show though, Like watch him in the wit that he has with like Tom Hiddleston, it kind of reminded me of like Shanghai. Do you remember the Jackie Chan and Owen Wilson?

Speaker 5:

Yep, oh yeah, there's a skate video it? What skate video was it? But Owen Wilson makes just this funny, random like appearance and escape video and he's like hey guys, what you doing? Oh, you mind if I give it a try. And they did just like a silly camera trick where you know he grabs the board and he starts heading towards the rail and they cut it just enough time for like a real skater to fill in and do this gnarly hand rail and he does like some ridiculous flip into a backside and then it cuts to him again. He's like how was it? It's just so random. I like Owen Wilson.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, oh, wilson's probably Luke is funny too, and I never knew that they were brothers until they both were in a movie together and I was like, oh, wow, you can really hear because like Luke Wilson sounds just like Owen. But you don't really think of that until they're actually together. And then I think they have a third brother too that doesn't really look much like him and they're all like actors, I don't know. But yeah, definitely I'd recommend watching a little bit. Really good so, but I'd love to hear your honest opinion at the end, like how you felt about it.

Speaker 5:

Okay, I will absolutely binge that when I can.

Speaker 6:

for sure, I liked it but I also I'm torn a little bit by it because it's just like it almost feels like the character is done.

Speaker 5:

Oh man, all right, that's a good recommendation. I've been really impressed with all of our different different content and shows and books and movies that we've talked about tonight.

Speaker 6:

Very seldom do we actually talk about the book. So many tangents, 13 different, shows brotherly love. It was great.

Speaker 5:

Hey, but yeah, we talk about the book. I'm very impressed with, with the book club talking about the book. We're good at staying on other than a few tangents. Tonight was one of those, but hey, I've had a great time.

Speaker 6:

No, I did too. Thanks for always host these spaces. It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 5:

Well, I appreciate everyone for coming through tonight. We've got our reading assignment for next week. If you haven't picked up this book, do it. You're behind on the book club but it is a little daunting. It's a big book but we are cruising through it. I'm looking at it right now. Just like Edward said, we are at about perfect. If we're cutting a deck, we're cutting it just 50-50. We're about halfway and I'm really surprised how fast we've been flying through this. I know before the year ends. Yeah, I'm just kind of thinking of the weeks. We've got plenty of time to finish this before the year ends. I think we're reading more than we initially thought we would. I'm real impressed with the pace.

Speaker 5:

Pick up the book. As you know, if you're a holder, you get reimbursements. We've got lots of books. I just get so excited for any tickets to reimburse books, for these ones specifically where we've got the author on the space with us, like Edward. Please show some support to Edward. I'm going to reimburse you, so please take advantage of that. We get to support Edward a little bit that way. I really love that. Apparently, the Kindle, which is cheaper, he gets a bigger cut. That's pretty sweet too. Am I correct on that, edward?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, just because I don't have to pay extra fees for making the book as well, to actually make, I think, a dollar or more. Even though it's cheaper for you guys, I make more. That money goes right back into sweets as well. We use it for our liquidity pool, so we're building it with that. If you're into sweets, no brainer. Also, look above. I just found Daph did this. I was just like this is actually sick.

Speaker 5:

That's great. Nice work, Daph.

Speaker 6:

I'm going to post the Loon as well.

Speaker 5:

But that's really good. Is that about what you envisioned? Yeah?

Speaker 6:

honestly, horns, I would have said more in the front frontal lobe area, Maybe not as big, but pretty daring clothes.

Speaker 5:

That's awesome. Well, you're going to have a fun time, I think, once we present our. We've got the stills, but we're also tweaking them with some motion. It should be fun, bro, see, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, daph and I will continue hard at work on our fan art. Hopefully we'll be close. I'm excited for the revisions. I have no problem, I would love, man, for you to be like. This is so fun and watch it every now and then.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, that'd be really cool. I definitely would love something to promote the book, a little video. If you guys could do something with these images. Oh man, I think that'd be really cool. I'd actually pay you guys if you could pull off something. It kind of represents the book as well. Once we're done, so we can use for promotions.

Speaker 3:

That'd be, a fun idea. That's not my way.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it's fun, it's really fun. I like that was one of the images that Daph and I were working on. We got close on a few others, but we didn't have the gold mask. This one had the gold mask. We can tweak. It's fun to come up with what we do, but man, I want you at the end of the day to be like oh, that's pretty damn close. I'm having fun with it. Daph and I do it on Sunday. If you ever have some time, come on in and tell us like yo, no, do this, and we can streamline it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that would be the best way to do it Honestly.

Speaker 6:

The thing is it depends on when I work and you guys do that at like right in between both times. It's kind of hard to do it on a Sunday because I don't get any weekends off.

Speaker 5:

I'm kind of okay with that Daph. It would be kind of fun to present him the surprise video and for him to be like, oh, that was fun. And have a surprise reaction that would be cool.

Speaker 3:

I like it because it's like oh, I know who that is. Oh, that's who that is. Yeah, oh, I like that kind of thing. It's starting.

Speaker 6:

But having this image now, Luna, will people's image of what they had in their head change? Because that's kind of a thing that happens, though with movies. Like you watch a movie, that image of that character in a book suddenly becomes that image when you're reading. Some people don't like that. Some people like the idea of the imagination taking away what they think, but I don't know, I'm totally down with it. I always like that. I always visualize the like. When I read Harry Potter the second time around, I visual Daniel Redcliffe just mulling about.

Speaker 5:

So yeah, I think it does affect for sure. You know, like I read the Hunger Games before I saw the films and there were a few characters I was just disappointed with. I was like, ah, but I am losing. As time goes on and the more clips I do see, it does fade like a dream the original character. If I went back and read it again, I'm sure that character would come back in my mind. But you know, like the Pita character, that wasn't what I thought Pita was, but okay, and I went with it. And now I'm losing the original Pita that I had in my head and it's the new guy and I don't mind it, though I do like to watch who they cast, if you read the Jack Reacher books and then you're like, oh, let me pot a Jack Reacher book or a movie.

Speaker 6:

And then you're like, oh, Tom Cruise is five foot two. It doesn't look anything like the character in the book. And then you're like, okay, well, I'm going to watch the TV series. And you're like, okay, this guy looks a lot more than my pictured Jack Reacher look.

Speaker 5:

So yeah, could do that as well, okay, you guys, I do have to be careful about how I speak about Hunger Games. My son and my wife are currently what book are you guys on? Catching Fire? And she did not like my opinion on Pita. She likes what's his name? We just saw him in Five Nights at Freddy's. Oh, that guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys got to see that. It was fun and it's totally fitting with, like these books, just the whole genre and weird gory fun. It's a lot of fun, dap what's up.

Speaker 3:

So in my head I see Caleb, as I think his name's Dylan Minnet. He's one of the main people in Thirteen Reasons why, and he's the boy that was in the Goosebumps movie.

Speaker 6:

Is he the main character in Thirteen Reasons why?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, that's who. That's yeah. He's in Goosebumps, the movie with the black.

Speaker 6:

Oh, the movie. I thought you were talking about the new TV series. That's out.

Speaker 3:

No, he's in the Jack Black Goosebumps movie.

Speaker 6:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 3:

But that's what I see Caleb being and that's what I envision him as basically. Oh, that's pretty good.

Speaker 5:

That's pretty good casting, bro. But don't you think he's kind of older than that character now?

Speaker 3:

Maybe, I guess, maybe yeah yeah now, but I'm saying, like you know, the 2015 of him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's pretty good casting.

Speaker 3:

So 15 would have been. That's eight years ago. So yeah, that's pretty close to what would have been in Goosebumps man.

Speaker 5:

That's really close, yeah, or like a young Joseph Gordon LeVette kind of that character, like the him in Ten Things I Hate About you. Maybe not, maybe not. Yeah, he's 40 soon, yeah, yeah, yeah, not the current version, the high school version. Edward, do you have any casting requests for your upcoming series on Netflix? Oh, okay, Morgan.

Speaker 6:

I had a picture of who Morgan was. You know what. This is going to be kind of embarrassing, but I pictured. What is her name on Mean Girls? Why am I drawing a blank? Do you know what?

Speaker 5:

I'm talking about the blonde, the main mean girl.

Speaker 6:

No, no, Morgan, she's redhead.

Speaker 5:

What is her name? Oh gosh, why Lindsay low?

Speaker 6:

head. Lindsay low head. Yeah, that's actually who I pictured when I was writing him.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, the young Lindsay. Oh, speaking of Mean Girls what a funny video.

Speaker 6:

Girl interrupted Angelina Jolie, maybe.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, man, I just recently watched that for the first time. Actually, I had never seen that until recently.

Speaker 6:

I would picture her in those days as Maria, if I could age the character, the actual people playing it to the right age of those movies. Definitely have her as Maria.

Speaker 5:

Who else would I picture? What about that same age of Winona Ryder? Does she fit in anywhere? Winona Ryder, yeah, wasn't she in that movie as well.

Speaker 6:

Was she in that? She was in Beaglejuice, she's in Stranger Things. She would be a good character. She would probably, if we could use her age, be, I think, claire. If anyone, no, yeah.

Speaker 5:

I guess, claire, I might be off on this. Didn't she have blonde hair, or Winona?

Speaker 6:

No.

Speaker 5:

She didn't have you heard of her.

Speaker 6:

Actress can die there. Here she's a brunette, okay Okay. Yeah, winona Ryder got brown here Just because I feel like she would be a good actress for that role. But if the age, if we were able to move her age, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5:

That's fun to think about One day manifest that Right.

Speaker 6:

I mean Will Smith and Jim and I man, so you never know.

Speaker 5:

That's what's up. Well, Edward, thank you for your wonderful space. My friend, I'm excited for Wednesday. I'm going to do my best to not read ahead.

Speaker 6:

And you know what I would pick Ron Weasley to do, justin, I feel like he could play a good Ron Weasley or not. What is his name? Rupert Grint.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that would be great. Yeah, because he does mention red hair also for Justin, right.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, and you know what? Rupert was actually in a movie I watched recently. It had Batista in it, and it was. What was it? It was an M Night Shyamalan movie. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, nobody.

Speaker 5:

I'm trying to. I feel like I watched an M Night movie recently. What was it? On Amazon or Netflix?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I think it was on Netflix. Can you not hear me? Can you hear me? Can anyone hear me? I can hear you. You can't hear me either, I can hear both of you.

Speaker 2:

I can hear both of you too.

Speaker 6:

I don't think.

Speaker 5:

Lane can hear me, I can hear you, can you hear me?

Speaker 6:

Yes, I can hear you, we're good, go ahead.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it's the second talking to one of you.

Speaker 6:

No, but okay, what was that movie it was? There was a Kevin movie. It was an M Night Shyamalan. They have to kill the whole family or something like that, or the apocalypse is going to happen. Do you remember that movie? It's pretty new. Stranger in the woods.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, knock on the Camindor or something.

Speaker 6:

Yes, that's it. But yeah, Rupert Grint was in that for like a small bit. Do you remember that? Did anyone see that movie? It was?

Speaker 5:

Ron Weasley yeah, and it was like. It was like really confusing and it's like why do we have to die, I don't know. Yeah, I feel like I have seen that, bro. Maybe I saw a trailer.

Speaker 6:

If they didn't choose to die, then they had to like slowly kill each one of them like the four, and then they were like the four horsemen Because they had it like in a pitfall that all this stuff would happen and then a big wave crashes over that. I actually hold on, I'm going to show you that there's a wave that crashes over this huge rock. I mean, caitlin, we're actually at that rock. Hold on a second.

Speaker 6:

If I put that video up, I know we're on another tangent right now, but it's really cool Like we've never been down to like the USF fire and it was in Oregon and we had this really cool video. Let's see if I can find it. It might take me a minute.

Speaker 5:

Well, I've got a will of names here. While you're pulling that up, let me run this real quick.

Speaker 6:

I will pull up my screen record. Take me a minute.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, this will take me just a second and I still have not resolved the super spaces. We're in communication though. Until then we're, like I say, running it manual. Appreciate your guys's patience with all of that, but it's fun to do the wheel. I like loading your names up and picking the number. What number do we got tonight?

Speaker 6:

The number that makes me win, because I still haven't won yet. What do you think that number will be? Let's say I'm going to say 35, because my age is solid age. If that doesn't win me anything, then I think it's weird.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I wish I could rig it. I don't know how I can do the shuffles. We got the number. No, I can't rig it. Here we go. We got it closing in on. Oh, it's slowing down. It's one of two. It's going to be close. I think we've got a winner. Jack is the winner. I hope that doesn't bother you that I don't. I think it's because I've heard Dap call you Jack and so I just say Jack. But if Jacqueline is what you prefer, I will make that switch. Congratulations, Edward. Did you find that clip?

Speaker 6:

I did. Now I got to figure out how to post it because I went through my. Can I save it again? I don't know? Hold on, I really you know what. If you guys are sticking around, I'll show it in the after hour party. If anyone's around, that would get people excited.

Speaker 5:

Not really, Guys. Hey, I think maybe if Mr Sparky, did you figure out your music Do we have? Do we have a outro song, perhaps?

Speaker 2:

I can try it. I don't know if it'll work.

Speaker 5:

Give it a shot and maybe, maybe Edward will have some time to find that. Oh yeah, it's coming through.

Speaker 4:

Awesome because it looks like it'll work.

Speaker 9:

All right.

Speaker 4:

A groan of tedium escapes me, stuttering, fearful. What is this a test? It has to be the other way, as I can go on, training patience, train vitality. This paranoia, paralyze and fire racks live long. But I'm still right here, giving blood, keeping faith. And I'm still right here, the way I am, the way I am, the way I am.

Speaker 4:

Yes, I will know if war's too near, knowing it breaks the spirit of love. Because tedium has my children here. Certainly it would have worn no way to find out the way I am, the way I am. Looking up there, one knows it's lighter to heal. The devil has broken that alarm. Because tedium has my children here. Certainly it would have worn no way to find out. I'm still right here. I'm still right here. Divisions, divisions, divisions. I'm still right here. I'm still right here. I keep hoping they will break this crazy spirit in me. How many more do I even have? I wheel and time. You better, you better, you better. Gonna wait it out. Gonna wait it out. Gonna wait it out, wait it out, gonna wait it out, gonna wait it out.

Speaker 6:

Gonna wait it out. That's just. That's Caitlyn just dancing.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's a gorgeous shot, really cool, and I love that spot. Man, I was there as a kid with my grandpa, tom, and I got great memories. Awesome, Just brought back a flood of memories. I love that.

Speaker 6:

The flood Cause. That's what kinda happened in the movie Ha Get it.

Speaker 3:

There's a bunny.

Speaker 6:

But I remember, yeah, when we went there Cause that was only in March To see that that was actually really cool. The beach was so beautiful and it stretches on for miles, which is really cool.

Speaker 5:

And you've got really clear blue skies, which you know that's hard to catch sometimes, and even in March, we dipped our toes in the ocean.

Speaker 6:

It wasn't that bad.

Speaker 5:

I would need a wetsuit to hop in that water. Great space tonight, guys. Thanks for providing the tune. Sparky and I liked, I liked. That was Edward's choice, right.

Speaker 6:

It's been my chance a couple of times. Now I do have a really good choice for the end of the book. Oh hell, yeah. So I'll definitely throw it to Sparky, but I don't know if I want to tell him yet, because it might spoil some stuff.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, you can't give too many hints to him.

Speaker 6:

No, I mean he predicts too much. He's like Nasser Damus over there, yeah.

Speaker 5:

I love it. Awesome. Well, I can't wait. Wednesday it is Same bamboo book time channel. Ah, it's got time in the bamboo book time so I fucked it all up. Good night, you guys. Have a wonderful rest of your Monday. We're just getting started. Hope you have a wonderful week.

Speaker 1:

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