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Giving Back & KINDNESS with Vince Warnock of Christmas Ninjas NFT

November 13, 2022 Vince Warnock Season 1 Episode 15
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Giving Back & KINDNESS with Vince Warnock of Christmas Ninjas NFT
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Giving Back & KINDNESS with Vince Warnock of Christmas Ninjas NFT.

Vince tells us his story of growing up in an abusive home and being bullied.   How he overcomes difficulties and acts with love and kindness.

Author, Marketing + Visibility Strategist, Podcast Host, + founder of #KanjiClubNFT + #ChristmasNinjaNFT 

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good afternoon good evening wherever you're joining us from I know me and our co-host Vince are on different sides of the world as we speak so I'm sure the audience is somewhere in between and I really appreciate you guys being here I'm extremely excited to have a one-on-one chat with Vince and I've been wanting to do this for a long time and we finally nailed down a time and I'm just really excited to dive deep into the mind of a genius Mr Vince Warnock and find out as much as we can about what he's up to and how we can become more like him I'm just so excited I love Vince with all my heart and I feel like I haven't spoken to you forever Vince how are you oh my I just I the feeling is absolutely Mutual honestly man I've I feel like you and I have just both of us has been so busy plus being circled this kind of stuff impacting us I just haven't caught up with you for way way too long although I did laugh when you were saying the genius I was like oh damn is it going to be another co-host yeah um now looking forward to this looking forward to just hanging out with you and everyone else joining us as well yeah no that was you I was I was speaking about you my friend I know you are not just in the nft scene you are an author you have uh spoken a little bit about your resume before and I know that you're a marketing genius and you've been all over the place with that and you do uh just an incredible podcast with tons of views and so there's all sorts of things and then just the nft stuff as well I mean we we really have a lot to discuss and catch up with but really more than anything I I like this hour to be uh getting to know you a little bit and then really just kind of seeing where the conversation goes but uh Vince before we dive into any of the the current event stuff what I really like to do is kind of rewind a little bit get to know you and if you don't mind I like to even rewind all the way back to like when you were a kid I want to know what little miniature Vince was like and what he was into and what you grew up doing and I if you don't mind would you would you uh give us a little Vince story of course I can man now them yeah one warning for some of the listeners this might be slightly triggering for you all um but I've grown up in New Zealand and I grew up in a very impoverished area of New Zealand like a lot of people when they think of New Zealand they think of this beautiful Lush Countryside I think a Lord of the Rings what they don't realize is that we actually have a lot of issues over here as well and we have one of the highest suicide rates in the world we have one of the highest child abuse rates in the world and I was a product of a lot of that um the area I grew up with we grew up in a very poor home um I had five sisters and a brother in a two-bedroom house um with my parents in fact they when I was seven they put me in the backyard uh my dad got a hold of an old Caravan with no power no hitting no nothing no insulation and thought I could go and live in that so I got my own little basically my own little flat but unfortunately that would mean that I'd wake up in the middle of winter in the middle of the night with ice on my chest and all sorts of stuff which is not healthy for a child but also my my father was a ex-convict who got out of jail and then they weren't my real parents I myself and one of my sisters were taken out of a um a very risky situation that's all we know about it we don't know any of the details and we can never find out um they took us out of that situation education and found us a foster home and and as is the case in New Zealand foster homes in New Zealand were like hey he's just got out of prison he's a drug addict she's an alcoholic yeah they'll be perfect perfect couple to look after some children um so so there we were um we ended up in that family as a result by the way I have no photos of me as a child um neither myself or my sister were allowed to have any photos taken of us so it's kind of a surreal situation um but anyway so I grew up in that and uh what I was into was anything that would help me to escape from the reality um so I threw myself into three things one of them was music I absolutely loved uh punk I love jazz um I loved whatever I could listen to at the time but also was obsessed with movies and comic books and at age age seven I was in that Caravan because I had no power there I had to get very Innovative and this kind of started my journey into entrepreneurship because I had to learn to solve problems so I middle of the night when my parents were all asleep I got up and I dug a trench underneath the Caravan all the way to the house underneath the house and I wired up the Caravan to have electricity so that way I can at least have a little light and have some kind of warmth in there blanked out the windows so my parents would never find out and then by age 11 I had started my own company my first business and that was and by the way please no one judge me on this as an 11 year old I had no moral compass my father was you know he was a criminal and he used to send us by the way down as kids I used to have to go down to the back of supermarkets to steal food so that we had food on the table for my family so I really didn't have a moral compass about what was right and wrong so my first business was selling pirated video games I discovered that the Commodore 64 which it had most of the software and the games were Commodore 64 were on cassette tape and I'm like hey this is just a ferrite-based system this can be copied so I used to get a whole pile of blank types and I used to go into a department store that had um like tape decks with high speed dubbing my friend would distract the person behind the counter and I would go up and I would hire these games and software out of this coming you pay like 50 cents or a dollar and you could hire this piece of software and I'd go in there and I just copy it like 10 times and I get the next game and I copy that 10 times and you do this really quickly with this high speed dubbing they don't go and sell that to all my friends I ended up making so much money from my first business I bought not only a heater for my Caravan I bought a TV I bought a VCR which back in those days was incredibly expensive uh it started my comic book Obsession I put every comic book I can get my hands on so so yeah so that was that was little Vince little Vince was a little tick guy that used to like making crystal radio sets and bugs and all sorts of things and was basically on his journey to be an entrepreneur oh my gosh I didn't I don't know if I've ever heard that story Vince that is really inspiring I cannot uh even imagine being in that in that scenario that you were in and so so you got your TV you got your heater and and then how long did that phase go did you stay out in the Caravan for years or well until I was uh 15 and then got um well essentially booted out of home which you know when you're 15 you had to go and fend for yourself so um but yeah it was also it was something else significant that happened at age 11 actually uh Lane which um eleven for some reason is like this magic number for a lot of entrepreneurs um but for me as well as the start of my first company it was also the start of another part of my journey because I went to so we have what we call primary school here which is age five to age 10. um I don't know what they call that in the US but then we go to an intermediate school which is a transitional school for two years so age 11 and 12 before we go to what you would call high school we call College um so this transitional school was a very impactful school for me because going there two things happened one of them I found a bully and and when you have like for me when you have a bully at home when you have an abusive household school was my safe space it was a place for me to escape where I could be myself I didn't have to be fearful of standing out I could actually help other people and you know like one of the things I love doing is helping some of the other students to learn math and things like that um but then at age 11 I suddenly at school it wasn't safe anymore I had a guy there who made my life hell for two years and he used to try and beat me up every day and all this kind of stuff um but the other thing that I found there was a teacher who was one of the most inspirational people and certainly one of the foundational people in my life his name was Mr few and he is I did get to tell him before he passed away how much he impacted me it was quite incredible but I remember I was I was a real smart-ass kid Lane because I was quite an intelligent kid in a very low decile or a low you know poor school and he was talking to us about this project we were doing he said right well you know we had to do a project all the boys did things like sharks and spiders and the girls were doing horses and I don't know something else unicorns but he said you've got to do an oral presentation part of your of your project and I was like why why do we have to do that and he goes oh it's going to prepare you for when you have to do oral presentations in real life it's and I said when are we going to get the opportunity to do that I was very aware of our situation I was very aware that you know as you know all from poor homes all the kids in the school we didn't have the same opportunities as the people we saw on TV you know the people that were wealthy or you know anything so he said he turned around and called my bluff and said well how about now what he goes come up the front and he pulled me up in front of everybody and he said right Vince is going to talk for five minutes on the topic what's he going to talk about class and 11 year olds uh very smart kids not they the only subject they could come up with was an egg so I had to speak for five minutes about an egg and I remember kind of freaking out a little bit there and then he said right you got 20 seconds to prepare and then he said your time starts now the only thing I could think of when he says your time starts now is that stupid saying what came first the chicken or the egg so that's what came out of my mouth um so I said that and then my brain went into this other mode and I just started talking and I started telling these stories and I like honestly Lane it was like not that I've ever tried cocaine but it felt like it was cocaine or heroin or something because every time I pulled a thread these people would laugh and I pull another thread and they'd be inspired in another three and they would laugh and this was so much fun and we got to the end he goes right you got 20 seconds left and blah blah blah and I don't remember any of the middle but I said but I remember finishing on so obviously the chicken came first and then everyone laughed and all this and I remember I was buzzing everyone was clapping and I turned around and my teacher just kind of held my arms and he looked at me said Vince that was awesome I said oh thanks he goes no no listen to me he said that was amazing you have a gift he said did you realize you could do something really significant with your life and that was the moment like the gift stuff aside it was the moment that I felt this weird feeling on the inside it was kind of like a bubbly feeling and I'm like I've never felt this before what is this and then I realized what it was it was hope it was this feeling of I don't have to be defined by my upbringing I don't have to be defined by my life situation by what I've gone through by the abuse or by the the lack or by the you know the being poor I didn't have to be defined by any of this I could write my own story and that had a profound impact on me in two ways one it made me realize that I could be what I want to be and two it made me really inspired to make other people feel that feeling as well so so that was a really critical time for me it was a time where that bully and there's a whole pile of lessons I learned from that bully as well about myself and about understanding other people as well it wasn't areas black and white as you think but it was also the moment where I genuinely was inspired to try and be someone that can that can impact the world and impact other people

man what a great way to uh take a tough a tough time in your life and see the the good parts in that time and what a cool uh what a cool teacher I have some teachers in my life too that uh almost like you're you explained it's like you feel hope for the first time you feel that you you were joking like you're on cocaine I remember that feeling when a teacher made you feel like that and some teachers can make you feel the opposite of that and it's really interesting now to see my kids going through those stages and to see how teachers are affecting them right now and how is apparent how important it is for for me to have good teachers in their life now so I I really uh relate to that so I'm I'm curious Vince um do you still have a relationship with your parents uh no I went through um I went through a whole thing with process that I had to go through to actually forgive my parents for everything that happened and um and and I'm not justifying what they did like but forgiving people by the way for those who don't know when you forgive someone it's not um saying it's okay what they did it's not uh it's not validating what they did or anything but what it is is really letting go of that um and I and I had to realize the impact that that trauma had had on my life that those issues you know the issues that I had um as a result of all of that so I had to go through this and part of that process was genuinely understanding where my father came from um so looking at his family and the fact that his um he grew up in a horrible situation as well like honestly his dad was a commander in World War II um who basically was the only Survivor in his unit he watched all of his close friends get killed and he came home an absolute wreck of a human being um he couldn't stay in the same bed as his wife because she would wake up in the middle of the night and he was kneeling over her with his hands on her throat um thinking she was the enemy and he'd be trying to kill her and it was just these these flashbacks and these emotional outbursts that happened that were really unsafe so they had separate rooms so my dad grew up in this environment where there was this volatility there was this you know this trauma but also his his dad was just emotionally dead at that point and showed no affection whatsoever so so that's what my dad grew up in and he wasn't equipped to be able to deal with that and um and by the way it's really easy too when you are in an abusive household or you're in these situations to only remember the incredibly traumatic stuff but we actually did have some good memories when I was a child as well I had to remind myself of that and I had to understand where my father came from to be able to forgive him and let go and I did and we actually um we had a really powerful weird guy moment uh one Christmas where uh we went over to I took the kids over to my parents house and we were over there and my parents have like they live on this little farm like they have all these animals and everything and my dad's computer wasn't working so he said oh can you fix that night yeah so I went into the side room there and he came in and he was standing next to me and it was really awkward and you'd just hear this and I knew that something was up and then he looked at me he goes yeah uh must have been must have been difficult for you growing up boy and then he walked out of the room and that one comment translated into normal human speak was I'm incredibly sorry for everything I put you through and I'm incredibly sorry for what you had to endure as a child like legitimately that's that like that's what my father was trying to portray with that so it was a really healing moment for the two of us but then the thing was I realized I don't have to be around them I know that sounds really really harsh and a lot of people disagree with me on this because they think yeah it's really important to be around your extended family in that but I felt like even going through that healing process that being around my parents meant being around triggers all the time it meant being around memories that I had already now moved on from so I didn't want my children to be around that as well so therefore we kind of disowned my parents essentially we moved on from that um and I wish them the best and all this and and you know I will mourn when they pass but you know that's that's what I had to do to keep emotionally safe well I I commend you for uh making a safe and healthy decision for yourself and man that that's incredibly hard I I can't even imagine uh the times that you did you know spend a little bit of time over there and and that had to feel a little bit validating to get that from him but man I I completely understand uh your decision with that and I I've obviously myself seen that you're an incredible father but I would love to hear you kind of process that that thought process do you think growing up like that is there any chance that you know you could have fallen into the same pattern maybe that your dad did of taking a bad childhood and then creating another bad childhood for for you do you think that pattern was a possibility for you to fall into also and how did you stay out of that as a father and yeah and obviously you you deliberately are making choices to be a different father yourself but I'd love to hear kind of how you how you do that yeah look at very real uh very real risk of that and part of the process of not um being defined by your past is that whole forgiveness process it really is um there was and I still remember a really important point in my life I was around 20 something so quite a few years ago by the way um so I was in my early 20s and I remember uh one of my first businesses my first kind of proper grown-up businesses had just failed um I tried to launch something and it didn't work and there were a whole lot of factors I didn't know about that caused the collapse of it and I was like oh now fortunately it was just me I didn't have staff that were impacted by this but um what it meant was though I I kind of fell into this victim mode where I'm like um basically going okay why did this happen to me and why did I not grow up with parents that can teach you some of this basic stuff that I didn't know that's caused this or I was I was never around Role Models around people like this and I remember I was just having a massive pity party all right we all have those and you're allowed to have those every now and then but um I remember a very good friend of mine was listening to me have this pity party of me going on about poor me poor my upbringing poor all this kind of stuff and he said something really profound I didn't actually get it at first until I processed it and then realized what it is he had said to me but he said you do realize that everything you go through counts for something and I went huh and he goes the good the bad the ugly everything that you've gone through contributes to who you are he said I wouldn't wish the ugly of that you've gone through on anybody events and he said but it's helped make you into who you are today and he said and I really like who you are today I think you're something special and I was like whoa and that's when I realized that we get to choose how to respond to the things that we've gone through and I could either choose to stay in that victim mode and when you do by the way you you can't process things properly and therefore you do run the risk of repeating the patterns of your parents or repeating the patterns of abusers Etc but for me it was about letting go of that by understanding that that was horrible but I get to decide what to do from that and I'm going to learn from that and I'm going to be a better person I'm going to help other people and then the the old adage came up which is the the person who has forgiven much forgives much and that's when I realized that you know no matter what you go through it helps you to be empathetic towards other people um and a good and bad example of this like for example going through a lot of this stuff I can understand when I'm around other people that have been around abusers um and no matter what I've been through my wife has been through a hundred times worse with her her upbringing and things both of us should theoretically have just been statistics but I can empathize with her because I've been through abuse and I know the trauma that that holds and all that kind of stuff however we have friends of ours who were trying to conceive a child and they've gone through IVF and it wasn't working and I remember talking to the guy and it was one of these awkward moments where he goes oh Vince you know blah blah blah and I just I feel like a failure I feel like everything and I'm sitting there going I have no idea what this is like for him I've never been through this I've just got to basically blink and Leanne's pregnant like it's it's yeah I've got to be really careful with that um so I really couldn't empathize with them the only thing I could say to him was I have no idea what this is like for you to go through this but I can imagine it would be very difficult so so it really is for me it's about accepting your past and then choosing what to do with that so it was important to me to create a safe environment for my kids now I may have overdone it on that in all honesty you know I'm overprotective of my children um but I had certain things that I wanted them to understand as kids and grow up with and things so in times where I probably should have disciplined them I'm more understanding and coming as the the gentle father and go hey come on you know look kids you can't behave like that and you know so so there's good and bad sides to it I guess I I think I definitely went the overprotective parent route as well my kids now as they're getting older you know how they start to develop little cheeky attitudes and little little funny humor uh little little things they do just start to get more adult you know my kids will make fun of me and repeat to me things that I that I always repeat to them so like my daughter she'll be like oh hey Dad remember um be aware of your surroundings okay and I'm like oh my gosh but it's it's fun it's kind of fun to see how my overprotective parent little quirks uh it does find their its way into their heart and I think it does translate as love but that's the one I hope anyways that's how I mean look you're a good father man I mean honestly it's I still remember you talk about the cheeky side of this I remember my son was little we used to watch I don't know if you ever saw this in the US but it was a British show called The Young Ones and if you haven't watched it it is freaking hilarious I think it was only two or three seasons of it uh as Rick mail Adrian Edmondson and a bunch of others and it's about these students they're all flooding together but in it there was like all this irreverent humor it was like really shocking at the time and we loved it and I was watching it with my son and he was like four or five you know and I said to him right it's bedtime now and he goes what and he kind of looks at me looks at me and I said it's bedtime and he gets you utter utter and if anyone knows the show you'll know what comes next and I went don't you dare and I'm chasing him he's running down the stairs cracking up laughing going utter ah that's a bastard I was like it's so hard to tell your children off when you're peeing yourself laughing because it's just so cute and so hilarious so yeah we had to teach them we had to teach them all about humor we had to teach him when it was appropriate when it was inappropriate and all this kind of thing I said at home that humor is hilarious definitely keep doing it because it's fun um out in public maybe not so if you're around your grandparents definitely do that because they'll be highly offended and that's hilarious so yeah we had to teach them all about that oh my gosh I have I have a son with just you know he loves to test words and he loves words and with that kind of you know adult Choice words and he loves to use them and test them out and and uh I was always a little worried because going to school you're like oh my gosh is he gonna is he gonna say something just testing out to his teacher but it is quite uh fun to see the control and the filter they have between you know public life and testing stuff out with Mom and Dad and us chuckling and giggling and we oh man we've had to have that talk like okay now I'm laughing but that we're the funniest so we we um like I used to swear like a Tracker honestly um but at home I don't like we just we you know for some reason we thought hey we just don't want that environment for the kids I have no problem with people swearing swearing is fun honestly it's a great way to emphasize things but we chose not to around the kids but um we had this funny thing where parents would take like the school had a zoo visit on and you guys parent helpers and we're going there and I was like oh yep and we're in the lion me and my daughter and she looks up a hint she was always telling me about this kidney class that kept swearing and she was like wow I can't believe it he won't stop the teacher keeps telling him off and he always gets detention and he's always in you know naughty and this kid was up there with their dad and and my daughter goes dad dad and I went she goes that's the kid that says [ __ ] the whole lionhood and you just see the dad he just looked down at his kid then he looked up and he was like huh and you just see that look on his face of what have I done yeah it was hilarious man I I I haven't had any public outbursts but that that's what I was saying is I'm I'm still waiting for it it's gonna yeah yeah it'll come it'll count actually the most the most embarrassing one we had which was actually quite funny my daughter got over excited she was like yeah four or five or something like that she was real little when she was walking with Leanne my wife and walking along the street and this woman came past with a full burka on like this black burka you know little slip for the eyes and everything and this woman looked amazing and she's coming towards it my daughter's like as you look she squeezes her mom's hand she goes mom at the top of the voice she goes it's Batman and she got so excited thinking that Batman was coming towards her now luckily the woman actually saw the humor in it and everything it wasn't insulted but the things that comes out of kids mouths they have no shame whatsoever they have no filter sometimes and you're like yeah it's a good thing oh man I I definitely appreciate my my kids unfiltered advice for me it actually it's actually really good advice sometimes and I I just am baffled by it you know I remember when I was that age and I think as parents as adults we forget how much of a little human little kids are and and it starts to uh just baffle you at pretty pretty young ages how they are little persons with little behaviors and patterns and personalities and and uh if we can dig as as parents and adults into our memories and try to remember how real it was the feelings everything as a little kid it's very important to you and as adults it's I don't know we kind of slip into behaviors of like uh just a kid like they won't remember this anyways or something I don't know what what we go through to treat kids uh like they don't have decision-making processes that they go through so I just really uh love you know with your project and everything the story of of uh Christmas ninjas how you seem to be a person that gives kids a lot of credit and I love that because as a little kid when I was you know four or five years old I just Christmas specifically I was calling [ __ ] and my parents doubled down and my my siblings all doubled down and it was really frustrating because it I just felt like did these people not think I'm a real person do they not understand that like I'm saying words and they aren't hearing me what's going on right now and I remember having those thought processes as a four or five-year-old just like why do I not why am I not taking it real why am I not considered real and I get it it was fun they were trying to the whole tradition and everything but I didn't take it like that I was a I was a serious little kid and I had thoughts and I wanted them to be heard and it was just like nobody's hearing me so I I know that little kids are real and then you see it in my little kids how real the emotions are and so I I just love uh everything about you and your story it really does you can tell that you love people even starting from a young age and give them a lot of credit and uh I I imagine as you know 11 year old you sitting out in the cold I I just have a hard time thinking that you don't have a lot of empathy for humans and it just comes through so I I just love you as a human Vince and I I am jealous of your kids they have an amazing amazing dad and uh they they are growing up with just a wise person that's taken some some tough things and turned them into something good and so I just I just really commend you for that I want to know uh from from the first business now I kind of want to rewind to that I loved that by the way um your your uh what what would you call it your pie pirating business yes take us through a little journey of your entrepreneur uh activities and I'm sure somewhere along that timeline you is probably when you met your wife and so if you could even sneak that story in there I want to know about that I'm uh okay so right here we go this is a whirlwind tour um so obviously that first business was when I was 11 I ran that for a few years until basically um the kind of Commodore 64 fell out of favor and people which is terrible by the way it's one of the best home computers I love the car I still have my Commodore 64 that I bought for myself um but anyway people moved into other areas um so I started um learning a lot more about electronics and my next business was um my next business was still a bit morally questionable by the way I used to make fake IDs for students and I used to make bugging devices um so a little bugging device I made these special ones that you could stick on a window and they turned the whole window into a microphone and they used to make this because when I finally got to um training Electronics engineering so my background by the way for anyone that's interested I trained in electronics computer and software engineering at our vision of MIT here in New Zealand and one of the things I discovered was I'm in a room full and a class full of giant nerds who um you know the whole concept of being around girls was pretty scary for them they had no idea what to do so I thought I'll make life easier for them so we created these bugs so they can actually hear what the girls were saying about them which is really terrible when you think about it like honestly encroaching on people's uh privacy and everything so I feel terrible about that but back then I just wanted to help these nerds you know get girlfriends um and also they paid really good money for these things so that was my next kind of main business um but then I got a moral compass and then I realized that all these things were wrong and I started to venture into other areas so I ran a like a small newspaper type thing which was promoting local events and I would charge for advertising things like that so that was a lot of fun um and I did a number of different projects along the way my first kind of major business was um actually in the very early days of iPhone when actually when I so early days of Android when the first Androids came out I remember there was um like South by Southwest and you know the sccx uh consumer CeX consumer Expo um all those kind of events everyone was talking about iPhone versus Android Android versus iPhone so I I went and and did I think was startup weekend where you build a business in a weekend um we we succeeded in that we created this business from it called mobile combat it was going to be a mobile game where um you put iPhone users versus Android users versus the two or three people in the world that have Windows mobile essentially uh but the idea was it was kind of like a top Trump Style game where you'd be walking along and it would ping you to say that there are five android if you're on an iPhone five Android users near you and you could choose one you couldn't see where they were for privacy reasons but you could choose one to battle and you would battle like a card game battle their character and you could pay for power-ups and all these kind of things as well so as a concept this was so much fine we did a lot of validation we kind of went out there in the market and got a huge response from it and then I went out and the idea was we were going to make money on two fronts one from micro transactions in there but the other one the main one which would bootstrap the business was really getting sponsorship from Brands and I teed up a sponsorship with our major Telco over here and they were all on board and it was basically go go until I got that call that we need to come in and have a meeting with them and they had done the unthinkable they had told Apple what we were doing and what I didn't know at the time was that Apple were very litigious and apple do not like being compared with anybody so basically Apple turned around to this Telco and said you can sponsor this game but just warning you if you do if you have anything to do with this game we're going to remove your rights to be able to sell iPhones in your stores which of course was a big draw card for them so that just basically killed the business in one Fell Swoop and to be further other aspects I mean I the developer I had was the wrong developer so and also most of our team meetings involved in drinking a lot and having a lot of laughs and a lot of fun so that business kind of failed miserably but I learned a lot from that process and I went through all these other businesses as well um and then I would do this thing where I would go from basically from building a business through to working corporate then back to business and working on radio or on your radio announcer here at our biggest radio station for a number of years and always have my finger in multiple pies but through all of this journey I also met Leanne and the way I met her was while I was studying at our vision at MIT was called CIT while I was studying there one of the guys in our classroom said hey I bumped into these two girls which immediately got our attention two girls on the train that I used to go to school with and they're Keen to go to the movies to see this movie called Point Break who wants to come with me and I'm like Ah hell yeah

dog one of my dog's name is Patrick Swayze by the way nice yeah yes nice oh it's such a good movie man but it's also a very special movie for us but that was like and I think that came out in January or whatever year that was rewind to August the previous year I was while I was at CIT I was doing work placement so you would go around with you know Electronics engineers and we went to this building to calibrate all the room controllers and I walked into this law firm with him and in this Law Firm it's very you know prestigious Law Firm everyone's very very serious but I saw this woman walking along who was the male clerk so she was basically delivering all the mail for everyone and this was Leanne and I didn't know her anything but she walked past me and just to describe like she's stunningly beautiful but she walks past with three spikes out on her here like full Punk right right out I don't know four here these three multi-colored spikes the rest of it here was completely shaved except for like right down to the stable except for a like a ponytail that came right out the middle and I just looked at her and I'm like oh my God she is amazing I'm like this chick is gorgeous and she's got balls and she's just in your face I'm just like wow like it was a immediate impact it was like a brick hit me in the face I'm like I am completely in love with this person I've never even met before so anyway we finished there I never got to talk to her or anything like that so fast forward now to I'm turning up at the movies with my friend and uh when when my mate turned up and this other guy was there that was you know that knew the girls and I looked and I saw Leanne sitting there with her here this time she didn't have the spikes it was like this crazy teased out Fringe it was amazing like this epic here and I just looked and I'm like wait a minute that's the girl from there obviously I looked up and my friends there and I'm like oh my God I'm looking back and forth going these are the girls we're meeting I'm freaking out now and I'm like wow and I was instantly in love with her and still am to this day like honestly it was like full-on you know love at first sight movie moment she of course didn't know I existed but you know for me I was completely in love with her and then after the movie we went by the way and this is probably oversharing for a bit here but we went we all went for a walk and we're going over this bridge and I trying to impress everyone I said oh this is where we spit on the cars and then realized my internal brain's just going dude you just made a fool of yourself in front of this girl but I turned around and she's there going and splitting on the cows she goes great idea and I'm like I'm even more in love now um so that could have been the start of A Beautiful Romance but it wasn't uh because uh it turned out she actually did feel something for me immediately and that person that introduced us thought ah like this I was a bit of a wreck at the time I was going through alcoholism I was going through a lot of depression and dealing with a lot of stuff from my background and he was aware of some of that so thought there's no way that he's good enough for Leanne and I do agree with him on that she is I'm definitely batting above my average with that woman um so he actually told me she know didn't want anything to do with me told her I didn't want anything to do with him uh with her and and we kind of lost contact a little bit so fast forward to my last year at CIT I just graduated rather at CIT and we've gone flatting and we're going to hold this massive party and at the time I was going out with this other girl who I thought I was in love with you know because that's what you do and me and my me and my flatmate were like right we're going to organize this party and like yeah yeah and we go who are going to who we gonna invite and at the time we had just heard that Leanna gone flanning she moved out of her parents home and gone flatting we're like oh we should totally invite Leanne he goes yeah yeah totally annoying yeah oh probably shouldn't invite my girlfriend too and so we got to this party and Leanne was there and I'm sitting there with my girlfriend and I look at my girlfriend and go she's cool I like my girlfriend then I look at Leanne and my heart would go and I realize I'm not in love with the girl I'm going out with I'm like madly in love with the end I thought there's no chance we're ever going to be together but I can't leave this other woman on so I thought I did an honorable thing afterwards and said hey just so you know um I'm not in love with you I'm in love with the concept of being in love that's about all I got out before she punched me in the face and I realized afterwards I could have been a lot more diplomatic but anyway fast forward uh me and Leanne started actually hanging out we became best friends and she helped me through some incredibly difficult times she helped me through alcoholism um I had attempted suicide a number of different times in the Thailand that day a lot of people had no idea because I was always a very positive person even when I'm dealing with these kind of mental health issues and challenges um and she was dealing with her own her own demons and her own drama and things as well and fast forward we ended up in a situation where um she she said to me she rang me up one day and said look I'm I'm not going to work today I've got the day off work I'm going shopping do you want to come with me and I'm like what a coincidence I've got the day off work as well I'm definitely coming with you uh but in actual fact I then quickly ran my work and went sorry guys I'm sick I can't come in today um so we went shopping with her and just as we were about to start shopping she sat me down and asked me out and we became boyfriend and girlfriend and about probably two or three weeks later we were just sitting down chatting with each other and it came out of both of us to say you know this feels so right I'm so sick of going out with people with the sake of it I just want the person I'm going to spend the rest of my life with and she goes yeah exactly and then we realized what we were talking about so we got engaged about three months later um a year a year after that we got married um and now yeah we've been married for 27 years um so and she has been my absolute Rock through everything no matter what battles we face no matter what demons we try and fight no matter what she's always in the trench with me got my back completely it's like bad boys for life you know well you've got the gun firing you know she's covering your bank and foreign in the other direction so it's just been an incredible journey with her and just to make things even more surreal Lane um so that's the Journey of me knowing her when we were engaged we went down to a friend of hers's 21st party and they're from an incredibly wealthy family and the dad back in the day had reel to real cameras you know like and he had these videos of his daughter and her friend Leanne playing the flute and because Leanne was a flute player and he was like oh these girls are age 11 he said you should see this it's adorable and I'm like oh my goodness I'm going to get to see Leanne h11 this is going to be hilarious right so I'm sitting there and all of a sudden the camera goes on the tour of them and they're playing flute and I'm looking at 11 year old Leanne and realize I know you and she's like yeah of course you do and I said no no I know you I realize I know you from somewhere and then it all clicked uh we used to have this uh skate rink uh where we grew up it was called skateaways where every teenage kid went every kid in fact just went to Skateaway and I remember I was 13 she was 11 and I saw her there which sounds creepy these days but it's only two years difference just to clarify everyone um saw her there and I was like wow she's so cute and I would follow her around and she would kind of flirt with me a little bit and I'd follow her around and so it turned out we were always destined to be together so we just didn't know we'd crossed paths so many different times that is amazing oh you have no idea I love a good rom-com yeah same thing come out at like 3 A.M and like catch me crying in the kit and while I'm watching some dorky wrong rom-com I don't know I swear you and I'm separated at Birth man like seriously love a good love so fun and that's so cool uh that you found your your punk rock girl yeah oh man she's still to this day by the way is a complete badass like even though you know we're over 50 well she's about to turn 50. um she still has like her hair is all shaved except for this like blue kind of plume that comes out the front that looks just incredible like she's a very stylish woman but um but she's still I still find myself sitting there looking at it just going oh my goodness she's so beautiful and then I always I always have this little Fair Lane of one day she's gonna wake up and go wait a minute I could do way better than you I just never realized so um unfortunately that won't happen trying to strategize to make sure that doesn't happen yeah I feel the same thing yeah it's good keeps us on our toes we've got to keep wooing them all through never be complacent never take them for granted that's a good thing exactly oh man I feel I feel just really really lucky and fortunate and I don't I don't know how and I I imagine you feel the same way oh yeah totally man yeah because I really relate with a few of the stages in your life I am now a couple years sober from alcohol do you do you still uh struggle with alcohol what I I would love to know what the next stages were after you were dealing with that um no I went through I did the dumbest thing by the way I went through a complete cold turkey which is not healthy um I didn't realize how dangerous that was but it worked for me which was good um I in dealing with the underlying issues of the alcoholism that's really helped me um and so for me I can drink now which is fine however I steer clear of anything that will trigger me and drink wise so I can't drink rum I can't drink Vodka which kind of sucks because I do quite like vodka but I find when I have these things they're very triggering because that was what I used to I used to drink a liter of vodka a day man at one point um so that is something that if I go near that now that will bring up pain and it'll bring up triggers and things so I can't go near there whereas something I never drunk when I was younger and I had the issues was whiskey so that was quite fortunate because I really enjoy whiskey now um but also I keep myself whiskey was my drink so I oh no good choice good choice yeah yeah I love a good whiskey and I love yeah I've got quite the collection but but I also need to make sure that I because I still have mental health struggles like in all reality um you know I've got a pretty stable life I've been through a whole pile of success in my career and in my businesses and things but it doesn't mean that I'm I'm devoid of any kind of issues around that I still deal with depression and anxiety and a number of different challenges so I need to predict myself around that so I put safeguards in place around my drinking and things like that and it does help that Leanne is an addictions counselor so she keeps me on my toes and can see the signs and all this kind of stuff and and help me process emotions when I'm feeling them so yeah it's it's it's an interesting journey I mean they've you know a lot of people you'll hear the term a lot um and you'll know this Lane but you know we don't use the the kind of comment that I'm cured of alcoholism because there's no such thing um I am an alcoholic that can regulate that and can basically can keep that under control essentially I love that that's that's a really uh interesting also you you always say that that we were separated at Birth my wife uh she also I mean it's not the exact same thing but she went into social work got her Masters and she you know she's not an addiction counselor so exactly but kind of the same uh field helping people out with uh problems yeah she works at the hospital and uh it's just really cool that we kind of both found our strong assertive uh you know they can take care of us though exactly yeah

yeah I I have to I have to show you this with you Lane but um I remember when when our daughter was very little and our daughter's 25 now for anyone wondering but when our daughter was really little and Liam was at like a appearance kind of thing and all these mums chatting away and all this and there was some news story about someone who had had killed someone they killed their husband or someone along those lines and this woman there to say I just don't understand how anyone could take another human life I just I cannot get my head around that that would require such cold-heartedness blah blah blah my wife's like nah that's easy and she went she goes oh I could take a human life and a heartbeat and this other woman's like I I pick your pan like the whole room was just shocked and she said seriously think about it we're mothers you come at my child you try to hurt my child I will slit your throat and I would never even blink and I will feel no remorse and I was like that's the woman I married and she's so badass and I love every aspect of that and to be fair once they realize the mother aspect of what she was talking about every single one of them agreed anyway they're like yeah I'd kill someone to try to hear my kids oh my gosh I could just imagine if my wife were here right now I could just see her like agreeing shaking her head like uh-huh yeah yep I love it oh that's awesome well my friend Vince I I just feel like an hour flew by so fast yeah I want to do this again in the future with you and and dive even away we just scratched the surface man oh no we haven't even talked about half my other career but yeah oh my God I know I I do want to give you a chance though to talk about Christmas ninjas specifically and so uh I I don't mean to shift gears for any other reason other than uh the the length of the show that we try to keep it around an hour so we're we're in no rush or anything but I just I do want to make sure that you have plenty of time to uh give our audience here and also Vince I don't have you know professional equipment or anything but I am turning these into podcast episodes your footsteps my friends I like to blast these out afterwards also the record reporting and so yeah I know my you know my project your project I've always been uh happily and openly talking about how much I love Christmas ninjas and so I'm always you know shouting it from the rooftops so I would love uh for you to have a chance just to explain your project and uh give us give us the whole Lowdown on Christmas ninjas and other projects that you're involved in yeah then uh then we can kind of wrap it up but please absolutely feel rushed at all I like to you know just carve out a little bit of time for your project as well so sure man yeah well the Christmas ninjas very much comes from part of that fathering Jenny that we were talking about um so it actually came from a children's book I wrote for my son when he was four years old and he's 19 now so 15 years ago um so we tried to tell them about Santa Claus and you know like because every parent did that and you're like uh it felt wrong saying it they were like okay I'm trying to tell about Santa Claus anymore just looked at us with that look of T you really think I'm stupid I realize there's no way he's falling for this he's too intelligent we've taught him too much so we just said to him ah look no we're not going to tell you this you know basically Santa Claus is just something that parents make up so that kids behave themselves and a few things happen from that the first thing that happened was he turned around as a four-year-old with the quickest wit you've ever heard and he just said look Dan if you're going to make up stories make them interesting and you see his brain ticking over and he goes make them interesting and put um put put ninjas in them and I was like oh hell yes I love everything about what you just said um the other thing that happened though is it made me realize how uncomfortable I was saying this whole concept of if you behave yourself you'll be rewarded you know and we teach this we teach this to kids we teach this to adults you know and for kids we say hey if you if you behave yourself which at least get real just means do as your teacher or your parents tell you then you'll be on the nice list or you won't upset the elf on the shelf and that'll mean that you get some form of Ward or present you know and then as adults we teach us we teach ourselves that hey if you behave yourself and do what your leaders and your bosses tell you then you will be rewarded with you know stability of the job you'll get a pay rise all those kind of things but there is so much more to being a human being than all of that and human beings genuinely are incredible um so we decided to write the Christmas ninja story and that's where we combine all the Christmas traditions here little baby Jesus in the manger you've got the wise men coming down to see them and then you've got the Christmas ninja stealthfully following them until she gets to the manger and has to defend baby Jesus from an assassination attempt from Santa and his evil ninja elf clan so long story short massive battle Santa and the elves get defeated they get banished to the North Pole and there's Penance once a year they have to deliver presence to the kids but that starts the new Journey for the Christmas ninja where she now roams the land looking for people that demonstrate the best in humanity the things that we should actually aspire to and be rewarded for so these are the five traits of the Christmas ninja which we've created for the project which are our honor kindness courage compassion and selflessness and when she finds people that demonstrate this she deems them worthy she bestows upon them a gift and they become a Christmas ninja themselves so that was 15 years ago we wrote that never did the artwork for it because they suck it out but it really was also the birth of our family tradition which is where we would every year pick a person each that we deem worthy of those behaviors someone that we think demonstrates the best in humanity uh we would get them Anonymous gift and we would put the Christmas ninja story in there and say you've been deemed worthy for the traits of blah blah blah and and then on Christmas morning we are allowed to open one prison each and then we had to race out and deliver these gifts without getting seen and over the last 15 years that has gone very very far like we're based here in New Zealand we've come across so many people that have been deemed worthy by the Christmas ninja that we've never even met before so obviously people have picked this up and ran with it and since then we've discovered people in the US and Canada UK South Africa who have all been deemed worthy so it's actually gone further than our Shores which is incredible so that got me thinking right I wanted to be able to use that story to be able to positively impact so we thought why don't we put the book together get an artist get the art done for the book and actually publish it and that was going to be the goal so teamed up with this absolutely beautiful outer sound of Australia um just an incredible woman and and you'll see her art in my pfp there um teamed up with her and said right we want to bring this to life this this book and then as soon as we sat down we realized that like you and Eileen she's very aligned with wanting to impact people wanting to help others so we thought let's not stop there let's do something else with this maybe we can bring this to life as an nft project and that's when we looked at what had happened to me and my family over those 15 years of this tradition and what had happened is it had has had a profound impact on the way we perceive other people and which makes sense you know I'd study Neuroscience um you know as a marketer my whole background's in marketing we're doing it for 30 years but one of my main disciplines other than ethics and marketing is generally the neuromarketing so understanding brain science so when you understand how the brain works and you see what's happening here it all makes sense so basically your brain has this giant filter at the front of it called the reticular activating system so this is the part of the brain that basically takes all the input that you receive in every minute of every day so all the taste touch sites Sound hearing well that sound smell that's the other one um all the different senses so every time you walk down the street there's all this stuff that's bombarding you every person that's walking towards you who they are what they're wearing how they're walking you know what are they doing what are they eating uh what are they saying you know is the wind blowing what cars are coming with all this information overloads us so this part of our brain protects Us by only filtering in the things that are relevant for our survival or our thrival so from that and from constantly every year looking for the best in people so going around looking at the people that you're connected with and saying what have they done that has demonstrated the best in humanity by constantly and consistently looking for that good in other people we've literally rewired that part of the brain to go that is now relevant information for my survival or thrival so therefore show me the good in everybody not just the people that we like not just the people we agree with but the everybody people that we might have different political views World Views religious views all of these things too we will see the potential and the goodness in all of them so we wanted to bring that to life as an nft project so we created the Christmas ninjas and put together a fully docs team and we've got seven Founders I'm the only male on the team that is by Design we wanted to bring in a founding team of women to to help the underrepresentation of women in the industry that have real world experience so people that have their own businesses that have had their own successes and things as well so we put this together and then the idea is when you own a Christmas ninja you are going to get this nft called a recognition nft multiple times a year for you to give to somebody to recognize them for what makes them great to recognize them for how they're impacting this world so then we wanted to take it further so we built all the utility on three pillars pillar number one is personal development so as well as rewiring your reticular activating system and the whole Neuroscience of the project we also wanted to give you access to some of the resource that I deal with on a day-to-day basis in my my web 2 world which is my podcast so I'm the host of chasing the insights it's one of the top five percent podcasts in the world and I four times a week interview experts on all sorts of things that help entrepreneurs but within that are things like people that can teach you about anxiety and stress or teach you how to deal with imposter syndrome or teach you how to build resilience or teach you how to have good nutrition or good sleep cycles all these things that are going to help you to be a better person to help you to be more compassionate more courageous more selfless Etc so we set up the Ninja Academy where everyone who holds a Christmas ninja is going to get access to teachings from each of these different people these best in the world to help you to be a better person essentially plus we're also doing a whole pile of work in the the personal development sector around educating people on nfts we set up the nft ninjas podcasts we're we're up to episode 100 now um where we're teaching about different aspects of nfts we're writing a book on efts we do programs on teaching you and hand-holding people that are new to the space and to getting their first nfts which we give to them all sorts of stuff like that then we get to the second pillar which is social good and this is where we get to impact the world so we want to basically we want to be able to shine a light on what we should aspire to be in world in the world so we're going to launch the international recognition Awards which is where we hold up those people that you normally don't see so literally a mum and dad that I met through another connection where every night of the week they work down at a homeless shelter um they don't do this for advertising they don't do this for you know any kind of fanfare in fact no one knows that they do it they just go down selflessly every night and give up their time their energy their money to help these homeless people so we want you to see these people we want to hold them up shine a spot line on them and say guess what this is the best in humanity this is what we should aspire to be like not a celebrity not a sports person not some Entertainer not a Kardashian these are what we should aspire to be like so so that's going to be in there and also we have a whole pile of social good stuff around helping children at Christmas time uh We've teamed up with donkey kicks um so I'm not sure if you're aware of that when you're laying but we've teamed up with donkey kicks and we're actually going to be bringing um kids boots to children in need and things as well so we're doing a whole pile of work there and then the third pillar is entertainment um this is a fun brand it's built around build around a fun story we've got a whole expanded universe of storylines that we want to bring to all of you a whole pile of extended characters within that universe and all of it by the way playing together to what we call the age of the Dragon storyline next year which is where we bring gamification into our nfts so we wanted to build on this pillar of entertainment so as well as the children's book and there's also going to be a comic book series that are more adult orientated uh we've got a streetwear label so all of our merch and fashion design stuff which is coming out now we'll just put some teasers into our Discord they look amazing of course the donkey kicks thing we're working towards an animated TV show and so so much more as well so so that's the Christmas ninjas we really are on a mission to kind of spread that positivity and to change the way people perceive each other in the world and we kind of think that the world really does need that desperately right now we need people to see the best in each other instead of judging or division or divide you know all those kind of things so um we're not minting our main collection yet but we are minting the golden tickets and so this is your early access to the Christmas ninja Universe this is where you get uh when you hold a golden ticket you get additional traits and rewards when our main Collection comes out but also you get a whole pile of chances to win so every 100 of these tickets that are minted they're only 0.01 each every 100 that are minted we get we draw 10 winners from that batch of 100 we give away five Genesis collection of our Genesis collection which are worth over 200 each uh we give away five of those and we give away five free minutes in our main collection plus hold on to the golden ticket because every month we do prize draws of nfts oh and actually one of our new things we're doing is we're giving away each month a one-on-one session with our designer so Jess who work with you to design a custom Christmas ninja which we will give you as a one of one nft and as a t-shirt version of it as well so so get your golden tickets we're minting those at the moment you'll see all the links in my profile uh anyway but um yeah so that's the Christmas ninja project man I love the Christmas Ninjas the artwork is so cool too I I haven't post up a couple of those up top and I can see uh the inspiration of the the badass woman yes is that kind of your uh you were mentioning you know your uh punk rock you met your your punk rock wife is there a little inspiration there with the the badasses well actually kind of but to be honest it's a lot of our artists as well because um the ninjas are actually based very much on her um and who who look and things like that as well but she's also very inspired by the same kind of stuff that Leanne does they're very good friends um so yeah they're badass punk rock kind of aspect comes through for sure we want these to be super powerful women so um you know this is why we're so excited about this project well I'm extremely excited and I did post up there also the uh your pinned tweet talking about the Christmas ninja golden ticket and so I would love if you guys would please uh show some support for Vince and the Christmas ninjas hop into their Discord they've got a lovely Discord and uh as always I'm just gonna be shouting your project from the rooftops I just have so much love for you Vince and this is uh it's likewise Lane like honestly we're huge fans of the pandomania and huge fans of you personally as well man um yeah I just I really uh find this Panda Space Twitter spaces these these are a good opportunity for me just to be selfish and have a uh one-on-one chat with you I just can't tell you how much I appreciate you taking an hour to tell us your story and to be honest and vulnerable and and that takes a lot and so I just really appreciate that and uh I want there's is a success for you my man yeah black guys man there is one other thing I'd just like to just quickly show if that's okay with you Lane um yeah who is um struggling with your mental health and things one of the one of the process you go through uh when you're dealing with past traumas and things is to understand that it's okay to have a duality of thought um so you will have good days and you'll have bad days and that's actually okay and that's something I had to learn because I would always suppress the bad days or suppress the bad thoughts and think I you know if I do that I'm a failure if I think that I'm a failure but it's part of what makes us human so one of the things I've done is just a very side project for myself um is a series of nfts called Dark thoughts and they are one of ones and they are all generated by AI so just training the AI to create this artwork that is all around accepting that you are this duality of people that you have good days and bad days and I'm only doing one at a time really releasing them one at a time um they I can pin them opposed to the top and the sea but they are they're 0.06 each but when you Mint one you also get a t-shirt design of that of that print and they are designed to look awesome on black t-shirts honestly they're designed to look very kind of Japanese Gothic in a sense um stuff which is something a style that I very much like so so yeah any for anyone who is um processing that kind of stuff I'd really encourage you first of all to understand the duality of your thoughts and be okay with that but also to talk about it as much as you possibly can because it really does help and these nfts are designed to prompt you to think about that as well

oh that's awesome if you do have a tweet uh that has any kind of access to more information on that please put that up top my friend yeah man I'm putting up any second yeah nice oh perfect well Mr Warnock I uh again just appreciate you so much I uh I'm going to go ahead and kind of start wrapping things up here and we do have a special guest that just rolled through Mr Chris cray he's been working on the pandomania uh Anthem but I I always love the energy that Chris cray brings so I'm gonna bring him up here if he doesn't mind and I wanna I wanna see if he uh has any thoughts on Christmas ninjas as well I know Chris cray is always in the space Chris have you have you had a chance to meet Vince and and uh the Christmas ninjas at all my friend

Mr Chris cray are you yeah

go hey how are you Chris Craig man I am fresh back from Miami from a mansion party met with DJ Khaled man it was so lit let's go you know what I'm saying Mad Love to You Vince this is your room this is your day I'm just popping in to show some love and rock out with y'all for a quick minute you know what I'm saying uh Chris you've absolutely made my day when you turn up in a room with that energy uh I think it's completely contagious man that is awesome that's what I'm here for man I bring the music I bring the love the positivity and The Vibes and any room that I come into I try to uplift Spirits mental health is truly truly on my list of things that I you know deal with fight with I I fight for I try to highlight in all my spaces I try to give everyone a chance to have a second you know to discuss their mental health situation or just their day or however they're feeling you know because it's very important it's very important to ask people how they are and uh to connect absolutely man absolutely you and I honestly maybe the three of us were triplets we're all just separated at Birth I think that could be the case that's exactly what I tell lean I see he he's like a brother I feel like we're like bonded already and and that was before the song and now that the song is already created uh it's it's even better it's it's a true family and I'm truly connected uh with their family and I'm very happy because uh the love is there the the whole Unity is there the foundation is so strong and so loving and so caring um and they're just such a wonderful team and I couldn't be happier to be a part of pandomania and Lane and his wife and everything that they work so hard for I I'm with you fully on that one Chris honestly I mean Lane shows the love and hear to all of us but it is a love party back to you as well Lane you genuinely are someone inspiring my man and I feel completely blessed to know you and completely blessed to be able to share this space with you not just this Twitter space but just space in this world and to be able to bring things to life and support each other it means a hell of a lot to me oh right back at you and I'm gonna I'm gonna be bugging you in the DMS to do another one of these in the future so that we can uh dive even deeper part two with Vince would be amazing I'm totally on board yeah okay okay it really is just a great uh selfish little side project that I love doing these Panda spaces and it uh it's awesome to have an audience here and uh people listening in but man I just I get kind of just zoned in like I I really am just having a conversation with you and catching up and man I just feel so selfish but I really do know that I'm bringing people up here like you that are inspirational and motivational and successful and just you know doing so many things at once and being able to handle and manage and organize it's just really inspiring and so I know that our community gets so much out of these and like like I said I really like to promote these recordings afterwards and try to get as many people listening to these because I truly get inspired and motivated myself and find myself having better days and thinking back on things that I learned and these these specific spaces I'm really really loving them and so uh Vince you have once again come in and set a bar that's going to be hard to beat and I I think we're going to have to have a part two so that that's the only way that that's going to be beat so thank you so much my friend and one day I'm going to use our travel savings and cruise over and visit you on the other side of the world that's that's part of the world that I've never been to and I really want to and I have so much more of a reason now to to cruise over there and visit my friend Vince and hopefully meet your wonderful family one day I'm telling you now Elaine there's always room for you here there's always a bed available for you and your wife and kids like it just yeah come and see us I would love that okay all right you I don't think you know what you're getting yourself into

Chris Craig what's up my man

from IRL it feels good to be back in with three y'all I missed everyone yo shout out to Queen shout out to everybody in the crowd right now all the pandas in the crowd all the donkey kicks in the crowd everybody all the hydro hippos man I see a whole family out there but you know what time it is we bout to take y'all somewhere somewhere special

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yeah thank you Chris oh man that was that was just the perfect amount of energy and hype that we needed to close out this show with Vince that was perfect Chris oh thank you so much I can't wait till I uh I know we gotta have our conversation and and figure out a few of the details I can't wait to get all that finished so that I get my copy of that no doubt no doubt I literally just got home got the phone charger the first space I saw literally lit up first space I hopped in I had to show love I had to give the energy that I gave at the mansion party that I gave to DJ Cali that I'm giving it women's web 3 Summit when we pull up if y'all there it's gonna be live let's go yes hey if we if uh we're the the triplets separated at Birth I I definitely am the Danny Devita when it comes to rap skills as well as uh energy and the way to move a crowd you are the Arnold Schwarzenegger Chris cray and Vince you you're just the perfect blend of everything you know the in between the the strengths the weaknesses you got everything perfect I'm the I'm the Danny DeVito and uh somehow I just got jipped here I I love that I'm the culmination I'll get the looks of Danny DeVito and the accent uh like that Arnold Schwarzenegger there we go hey Chris gets all the talent yeah not all of the talent not all the talent you guys are amazing Minds amazing people amazing spirits and amazing individuals uh that is you know a true Talent indeed in itself uh you guys are the best well I appreciate you Chris Craig coming through and showing support for us and uh for Vince and you guys please please please uh give Vince a follow as well as Christmas ninjas hop in there and and keep an eye on them and I'm really stoked about your timing with everything Vince how you guys have just spent the J it's just been done right you guys have not rushed anything it's a it's just such a great project with such a great cause and everything has been done properly if I could go back in time and take a few notes uh and uh not rush things as as I like to do you know I I've definitely been taking notes from You Vince on everything that you do you just inspire me a lot so thanks a lot for today oh thank you so much Lane and trust me the the Temptation was always there to rush things that's for sure but we want to make sure we did it right but now look anytime anytime I get to hang out with you is a blessing man and anytime we get to do a space together you know I'm always Keen so I'm looking forward to part two you do all right you guys heard it it's been it's been stated by Vince himself there's a part two we will have in the future yes all right my friends I've got a giveaway here and uh then we'll go ahead and wrap up the space I had to do a few redraws to make sure the winner was here in the room and uh nugget was here in the room the entire time just up until I uh am reading this this winter so they just hopped out literally I do have a screenshot of them in I went through four or five different redraws here and they were in the room I promise you guys so I'll I'll post the screenshot showing that they were here uh and congratulations to them I'll hop in their uh DMS and get that to them and with that being said you guys thank you uh to everyone in the community for coming through and listening uh to this space with Vince and Christmas ninjas I appreciate your time as well and I would like to say an extra thank you to all of you that have uh spent the time here with us live uh go ahead and hop into the pandomania disc cord create a ticket and I'll get you some Panda token as well oh hey look at that nugget did just hop back in oh you you uh you gave me a scare because I I was like explaining that I had to do a redraw and uh just as I was saying that you hopped out and now you're back in so you won and so I'll get I'll get that to you in your DMs as well as everybody else create a ticket and I'll get you uh some Panda token as well for being here live with us I want to say thank you so much that's the least I can do and I'll give you an update on the panda token when you hop in the Discord we've got a whole new launch of a new token on a new network uh in the future and so any of this token that we're handing out you'll get the exact same amount when the new token launches so we're really excited about that and uh we're getting some of our current token into more people's hands uh gearing up for a big uh push on our our Panda token that we're gonna launch so uh with that being said you guys thank you so much I hope you have a great rest of your weekend hope you can recharge and make it into next week and have success and prosper and have a little bit of time to relax I appreciate you spending the time with us you guys have a wonderful night

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